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Dont know if this has been brought up here.

With those new numbers you can actually make money by self-locking your districts. But it will be boring to do.

Here's how it goes.

Status : District A mother corp. 300/300clones.
Attack by alt corp : 30 Million.
Status : District A locked
Day 1 : RT, no fights. 80 clones produced || Auto-sell : 12M
Day 2 : RT, 80 clones produced || Auto-sell : 12M
Day 2, Fight happens during the RT : Alt corps fields at least one player with BPO crap stuff and suicides all the genopack clones. Mother corp fields one player as well. Fight reward : 15M

End of cycle : ISK result = 12+12+15-30 = 9 Million. Add another 6 million if the district is a production facility.

Start again.

No.

If anything it's the passive income that should be lowered. Do not ever lower the rewards for winning.

Here's my proposed solution:

Clones produced by a district whilst it is under attack cannot be sold to Genolution, and so once the clone count is up the district max of 300 or 450 then they are just 'lost'.

Outcome:
You can still shield districts from attack for strategic reasons (in order to keep them or to allow them to become reinforced) but you can never do it for economic reasons since it will always cost you isk.

Example 1
Status : District 1a Corp A . 300/300 clones.
Attack by Corp B : District 1a locked
Day 1 : RT, no fights. 80 clones produced || Cannot be sold as under attack. 0 mil income. 80 clones lost.
Day 2 : RT, 80 clones produced || Cannot be sold as under attack. 0 mil income. 80 clones lost.

Example 2
Status : District 1a Corp A . 150/300 clones.
Attack by Corp B : District 1a locked
Day 1 : RT, no fights. 80 clones produced || 230/300 clones
Day 2 : RT, 80 clones produced || 300/300 clones. Excess of 10 clones cannot be sold as under attack. 0 mil income. 10 clones lost.

Putting in a 4-12 re-attack hour time after losing at attack on the first battle could help this a bit.. just an idea.

It allows a window for other corporations to attack before they can lock their districts back down.

Also, just need to make it less profitable than actually holding the district. Won't offer solutions on that but if its more profitable to leave it unlocked and there's a timer anyways... not many people will bother with it.

Hmmm, i'm very much not liking lost clones. In general, nature doesnt like things disappearing.
It feels like a massive double penalty for the defender.

Now in the proper thread...

Hey guys! A quick update on the dev blog:

We are aware that there may possibly be a way to lock a district indefinitely. We have discussed this with the CPM and internally. For now we are going forward with tomorrows release of all the information included in this dev blog. We have monitoring in place to see how things go over. We are also working on plans that we can implement early or mid next week depending how this weekend goes.

Thank you everyone who has been providing feedback here, on IRC, twitter, and just anywhere else.

That is all for now. Carry on. :)

All I can hear is "wahh wahh wahh, our job is so hard". Good for you.
Other people also have complicated jobs and you don't see them explaining themself.

Get things in order, better and faster.
No one wants to listen to excuses.

If I gave the impression that I believe that other things are being sacrificed for PC I apologise. I know that different teams are working on them and they are forthcoming.

But every iteration on PC so far has made it more and more complicated with nothing other than an increased payout of ISK and some extra salvage. I explain to new players in chat how it works, I can hear their brain thinking about the uninstall option.

There is no benefit to a corp to be had from PC that can be felt or seen by the rank and file members. The vast majority of eve players couldn't possibly care less about its bonus's to them and their corp. The vast majority of Eve players couldn't care less about dust to be honest. When I won the CCP office tour at Fanfast, some of them went tonto on the forums and social media demanding to know how the hell a Dust player won a tour of CCP! The logic of it being a game also made by CCP and I chucked a Plex into the pot like they did, seemed to elude them at that point....

PC is too complicated, without the kind of consequential impact on Eve or benefit that would make the doubters change their mind about it and consider Dust as being worthwhile to take seriously.

Corps want to fight each other. Lets give them a way to do it that's free from the need for resource management or the kind of thinking and preparation more appropriate to a new business start up. A basic war dec system, a league tournament or standings systems. Anything other than PC, which is going to be exclusively the domain of the mega corps and alliances in no time once again or cause burnout and its too much of a grind.

If we want to make eve players care about Dust, we need to start being able to go after their stuff and make a lot more more ISK doing it.