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Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us ROFL BROS
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Posted - 2013.07.08 08:38:00 -
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Isk lost Isk destroyed
this game is about profit and all war is about inflicting financial losses on the enamy without sustaining high losses yourself.
these two stats are the msot importand stats and i would even go so far as to state the instead of KDR we should measure the efficiancy at wich you destroy isk wise
isk destroyed/isk lost ratio is the superior metric |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones General Tso's Alliance
162
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Posted - 2013.07.08 08:39:00 -
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Yea a nice graph on your performance would be great. |
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
502
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Posted - 2013.07.08 08:45:00 -
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Hopefully this is already being tracked so that we can pull it using CREST soon. Sad ISK graphs are going to be sad haha |
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ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
644
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Posted - 2013.07.08 09:44:00 -
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ChribbaX wrote:Hopefully this is already being tracked so that we can pull it using CREST soon. Sad ISK graphs are going to be sad haha
All graphs are cool.... |
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
507
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Posted - 2013.07.08 09:46:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:ChribbaX wrote:Hopefully this is already being tracked so that we can pull it using CREST soon. Sad ISK graphs are going to be sad haha All graphs are cool.... They are, I was more just thinking of my own graphs, gonna make me sad haha
and possibly make me think... I should really try to die less. |
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Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
158
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Posted - 2013.07.08 10:07:00 -
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+1 Kind of don't want to see how bad I am in this regard though. It scares me...
Would this be added to the social boards as a tab or on the character sheet as well? Or just an end of match deal? |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us ROFL BROS
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Posted - 2013.07.08 10:19:00 -
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Khal V'Rani wrote:+1 Kind of don't want to see how bad I am in this regard though. It scares me...
Would this be added to the social boards as a tab or on the character sheet as well? Or just an end of match deal?
i was thinking end of match. it would also encourage people to use cheaper gear to increase your ratio, and using proto gear would tend to lower your ratio.
but if its a permanant stat for the leaderboard sthere will be a while new playstyle evolve, one where people seek to destroy more than they lose :P
clones are one thing, financial loss in a game where it hurts to die is awesome, and a great stat to work into the game.
currently eve online tracks isk efficiancy, aka amount of isk destroyed vs lost
its how the success and failure of wwars and battles are measured in eve, so why not dust too? |
Jaqen Morghalis
Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance
104
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Posted - 2013.07.08 10:27:00 -
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I'd just like to see "Net Profit/Loss" added somewhere at the end of the match.
Your ISK reward for the battle (they could even add the value of any salvage, if possible) minus the total value of Dropsuits lost.
This could be displayed to everyone, but even just personally viewable would be fine with me. |
Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
160
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Posted - 2013.07.08 11:03:00 -
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I like it. Though I would prefer a long term tracking of the stat meself.
I would be okay with it just being EoM. Something to talk crap about with the buddies.
On a Corp level, does Eve track that as well? And if so how is it determined? |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
242
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Posted - 2013.07.08 11:06:00 -
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*Select Starter Fits*
*ISK Lost: ISK Destroyed ratio 0:GêP |
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Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us ROFL BROS
249
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Posted - 2013.07.08 11:11:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:*Select Starter Fits*
*ISK Lost: ISK Destroyed ratio 0:GêP
yup, it finally gives merit to militia fits and starter gear, meaning more people will gear down.
im thinking its better as an end of game stat then a leaderboard stat for this reason.
economic warfare should be encouraged |
Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
187
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Posted - 2013.07.08 11:12:00 -
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This is definitely a good idea. I'd love to see a ratio of ISK destroyed/used (this may be a bit difficult to calculate given that some damage done is in the assist of a kill or vehicle destruction).
Additionally, I'd like to see WP/death (this has been mentioned by many others before) so that you can get a measure of your efficiency to the team in terms of how much WP you generate per clone used. |
GET ATMESON
NEW AGE EMPIRE The Family Syndicate
27
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Posted - 2013.07.08 11:13:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:Isk lost Isk destroyed
this game is about profit and all war is about inflicting financial losses on the enamy without sustaining high losses yourself.
these two stats are the msot importand stats and i would even go so far as to state the instead of KDR we should measure the efficiancy at wich you destroy isk wise
isk destroyed/isk lost ratio is the superior metric
Agree. You should post that in "feedback and requests" so that CCP will read this. I like this idea |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us ROFL BROS
249
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Posted - 2013.07.08 11:14:00 -
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Khal V'Rani wrote:I like it. Though I would prefer a long term tracking of the stat meself.
I would be okay with it just being EoM. Something to talk crap about with the buddies.
On a Corp level, does Eve track that as well? And if so how is it determined?
eve has sites that you can submit "killmails" to that track any reported kill, in EVE when you kill someone or die you get a report in your mail detailing all the information about fits, combat, damage.
then people post these mails into a website reader that collects the stats and displays them.
www.battleclinic.com is one such site and possably the most popular although some corps have private boreds for their own tracking to cut down on espionage.
its quite awesome to see a week long wars stats and see whos inflicted the most financial pain on their oponent |
Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
120
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Posted - 2013.07.08 11:16:00 -
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I forward this motion! |
Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
160
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Posted - 2013.07.08 11:21:00 -
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... This needs to happen. Soon. I think my corp mates would love this.
You made me get my hopes up again man... The nerve of some people. :-P
Edit: How would bpo's figure into this? It's a paid item though not in isk. Would the isk equivalent be used for the stats? Sorry for all the questions, I just really like the idea so I'm diving in... |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us ROFL BROS
250
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Posted - 2013.07.08 11:22:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1028216#post1028216
the post in requests/feedback
make sure to show your support and lets see if we can get this in the game or at least on the slate of things to add in (although im not holding my breath) |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us ROFL BROS
250
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Posted - 2013.07.08 11:23:00 -
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Khal V'Rani wrote:... This needs to happen. Soon. I think my corp mates would love this.
You made me get my hopes up again man... The nerve of some people. :-P
this would add some excitement to matches again, and it would add in some more flavor to PC (waging financial war on them would be awesome in PC as eventually they would have less and less ISK to work with and fight you with, its THEN you bring out the big guns and finish them off)
it would make create a true financial metagame and while technically it already exsists its really really really hard to guess and track) |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us ROFL BROS
255
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Posted - 2013.07.08 11:50:00 -
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it would also make it so that expencive tanks would seek to destroy as much isk as they cost rather than try to earn as much as their cost, wich is alot better of a metric to measure tank performance. |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us ROFL BROS
257
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Posted - 2013.07.08 12:36:00 -
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i was also thinking that it would be helpful to see the stat tracked team wide as well as at the individual level.
seeing which team lost more ISK would determin another way to "win" and would encourage the sandboxy create your own victory style of play |
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