DUST Search - Death of Vehicles(minus Logi LAV)

Delta 749 wrote:

Xender17 wrote:

Delta 749 wrote:

Xender17 wrote:

Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:

People adapted. Now you are dieing.

Vehicles can't really adapt because of PG/CPU limit. We are pretty much stuck.

Its also not adapting if our given something that gives you a sudden advantage.

What you cant learn where the common perches for tank busters are? You cant use that knowledge to minimize your time being in an area where you are actually in danger? You cant weave a bit to throw off a forge gunners aim? Cant learn how swarms fly and track targets and find out how to get them to blow up harmlessly against the terrain?

Theres a **** ton of things you can do to adapt simply by altering how you drive, it has absolutely nothing to do with your fitting
Unless you are a dropship pilot, then you are just SOL

We do that. While AV continues to not be stuck.

Not stuck but moves at a considerably lower speed than you do, has much less health, can be instantly killed by you, carries weapons that are not efficient or effective against infantry which is also a danger to them, oh and being on the ground drastically limits their field of fire as well

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Xender17 Intrepidus XI 240	Posted - 2013.07.08 05:06:00 - [1] - Quote I suppose I'm complaining but this needs to be known because there is a sudden increase in AV. I use to see proto forges before 3x sp week once a match now there are 3. Plus swarms which also have increased.
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki Onward Defrosted Tuna Team 655	Posted - 2013.07.08 05:16:00 - [2] - Quote People adapted. Now you are dieing.
Xender17 Intrepidus XI 241	Posted - 2013.07.08 05:21:00 - [3] - Quote Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: People adapted. Now you are dieing. Vehicles can't really adapt because of PG/CPU limit. We are pretty much stuck. Its also not adapting if our given something that gives you a sudden advantage.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 869	Posted - 2013.07.08 05:26:00 - [4] - Quote Xender17 wrote: Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: People adapted. Now you are dieing. Vehicles can't really adapt because of PG/CPU limit. We are pretty much stuck. Its also not adapting if our given something that gives you a sudden advantage. What you cant learn where the common perches for tank busters are? You cant use that knowledge to minimize your time being in an area where you are actually in danger? You cant weave a bit to throw off a forge gunners aim? Cant learn how swarms fly and track targets and find out how to get them to blow up harmlessly against the terrain? Theres a **** ton of things you can do to adapt simply by altering how you drive, it has absolutely nothing to do with your fitting Unless you are a dropship pilot, then you are just SOL
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki Onward Defrosted Tuna Team 656	Posted - 2013.07.08 05:29:00 - [5] - Quote I do not do vehicles but, I do believe that there are PG and CPU modules, people need to start using them. And not just in vehicles but in dropsuits too. People are always complaining about lack of CPU and PG, and seem to forget about these.
Xender17 Intrepidus XI 243	Posted - 2013.07.08 05:31:00 - [6] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Xender17 wrote: Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: People adapted. Now you are dieing. Vehicles can't really adapt because of PG/CPU limit. We are pretty much stuck. Its also not adapting if our given something that gives you a sudden advantage. What you cant learn where the common perches for tank busters are? You cant use that knowledge to minimize your time being in an area where you are actually in danger? You cant weave a bit to throw off a forge gunners aim? Cant learn how swarms fly and track targets and find out how to get them to blow up harmlessly against the terrain? Theres a **** ton of things you can do to adapt simply by altering how you drive, it has absolutely nothing to do with your fitting Unless you are a dropship pilot, then you are just SOL We do that. While AV continues to not be stuck.
Xender17 Intrepidus XI 243	Posted - 2013.07.08 05:32:00 - [7] - Quote Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: I do not do vehicles but, I do believe that there are PG and CPU modules, people need to start using them. And not just in vehicles but in dropsuits too. People are always complaining about lack of CPU and PG, and seem to forget about these. Its a requirement for gunnlogis to have PG modules. Every gunnlogi has at least 1 PG module.
Michael Arck sephiroth clones General Tso's Alliance 151	Posted - 2013.07.08 05:33:00 - [8] - Quote The shuffling of the food chain...
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 441	Posted - 2013.07.08 05:35:00 - [9] - Quote Xender17 wrote: Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: People adapted. Now you are dieing. Vehicles can't really adapt because of PG/CPU limit. We are pretty much stuck. Its also not adapting if our given something that gives you a sudden advantage. you could have skilled up in a dropsuit. you are going to be walking alot more
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 870	Posted - 2013.07.08 05:35:00 - [10] - Quote Xender17 wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Xender17 wrote: Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: People adapted. Now you are dieing. Vehicles can't really adapt because of PG/CPU limit. We are pretty much stuck. Its also not adapting if our given something that gives you a sudden advantage. What you cant learn where the common perches for tank busters are? You cant use that knowledge to minimize your time being in an area where you are actually in danger? You cant weave a bit to throw off a forge gunners aim? Cant learn how swarms fly and track targets and find out how to get them to blow up harmlessly against the terrain? Theres a **** ton of things you can do to adapt simply by altering how you drive, it has absolutely nothing to do with your fitting Unless you are a dropship pilot, then you are just SOL We do that. While AV continues to not be stuck. Not stuck but moves at a considerably lower speed than you do, has much less health, can be instantly killed by you, carries weapons that are not efficient or effective against infantry which is also a danger to them, oh and being on the ground drastically limits their field of fire as well

Xender17 Intrepidus XI 243	Posted - 2013.07.08 05:37:00 - [11] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Xender17 wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Xender17 wrote: Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: People adapted. Now you are dieing. Vehicles can't really adapt because of PG/CPU limit. We are pretty much stuck. Its also not adapting if our given something that gives you a sudden advantage. What you cant learn where the common perches for tank busters are? You cant use that knowledge to minimize your time being in an area where you are actually in danger? You cant weave a bit to throw off a forge gunners aim? Cant learn how swarms fly and track targets and find out how to get them to blow up harmlessly against the terrain? Theres a **** ton of things you can do to adapt simply by altering how you drive, it has absolutely nothing to do with your fitting Unless you are a dropship pilot, then you are just SOL We do that. While AV continues to not be stuck. Not stuck but moves at a considerably lower speed than you do, has much less health, can be instantly killed by you, carries weapons that are not efficient or effective against infantry which is also a danger to them, oh and being on the ground drastically limits their field of fire as well They also cost 20 times less.
GET ATMESON NEW AGE EMPIRE The Family Syndicate 20	Posted - 2013.07.08 05:41:00 - [12] - Quote Xender17 wrote: I suppose I'm complaining but this needs to be known because there is a sudden increase in AV. I use to see proto forges before 3x sp week once a match now there are 3. Plus swarms which also have increased. There is so much AV crap because all the noob cakes that want to run people over. Guess what. Free LAV is getting poped by someone besides me now. Logy LAV is still crazy on my how damage it can take in. Next is proximity mines XD
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 446	Posted - 2013.07.08 05:47:00 - [13] - Quote GET ATMESON wrote: Xender17 wrote: I suppose I'm complaining but this needs to be known because there is a sudden increase in AV. I use to see proto forges before 3x sp week once a match now there are 3. Plus swarms which also have increased. There is so much AV crap because all the noob cakes that want to run people over. Guess what. Free LAV is getting poped by someone besides me now. Logy LAV is still crazy on my how damage it can take in. Next is proximity mines XD im a FG monster. i just skilled into med suits and swarms too. you can never have too much AV. plus if they nerf something i'll have another to fall back on. workin on plasma canon now
Texs Red SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 40	Posted - 2013.07.08 05:47:00 - [14] - Quote Xender17 wrote: Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: I do not do vehicles but, I do believe that there are PG and CPU modules, people need to start using them. And not just in vehicles but in dropsuits too. People are always complaining about lack of CPU and PG, and seem to forget about these. Its a requirement for gunnlogis to have PG modules. Every gunnlogi has at least 1 PG module. Unless I'm running a glass cannon it's a requirement for me to equip two PG modules on my madruger or my gunnlogi. Kind of disappointing as an armor tanker when 2/5 of your most important slots are taken up by fitting modules, then 2 more are taken up by a plate and a repper. So that leaves you with 1 slots to be creative with.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1559	Posted - 2013.07.08 05:52:00 - [15] - Quote I adapted. I threw out the 10m I have in Gunnlogi's and poured the other 2m I was saving for pilot suits into a Gallente Logi. Having more fun than ever.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 872	Posted - 2013.07.08 05:55:00 - [16] - Quote Yeah and they die much more frequently Xender
Kaze Eyrou ROGUE SPADES EoN. 291	Posted - 2013.07.08 07:45:00 - [17] - Quote Xender17 wrote: I suppose I'm complaining but this needs to be known because there is a sudden increase in AV. I use to see proto forges before 3x sp week once a match now there are 3. Plus swarms which also have increased. Technically you're not complaining; all your statements are simply observations. And the fact that vehicles deaths happen more simply show that: AV is working as intended
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Chaotic-Intent 5	Posted - 2013.07.08 08:24:00 - [18] - Quote A lot of us saw an influx in tankers and of course the ridiculous amount of LLAVs so we had to spec into serious av, most of the vets know the forge gun has always been monstrous so we chose that. I have 85 officer forge guns so I can now use those as well, but I'm thinking about also getting proto swarms so I can stack 5 complex dmg mods with them, and also grenades are very important now as well, so people like me are also running around with lai dai packed av grenades and proto nanohives if you **** us off*
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 288	Posted - 2013.07.08 08:41:00 - [19] - Quote Xender17 wrote: Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: People adapted. Now you are dieing. Vehicles can't really adapt because of PG/CPU limit. We are pretty much stuck. Its also not adapting if our given something that gives you a sudden advantage. Actually, you can adapt. I specced into a masshole/callogi fit and dust is fun again. just stop giving AV stuff to shoot at.
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 639	Posted - 2013.07.08 08:45:00 - [20] - Quote Everyone used OP tac rifles to counter people skilled into murder taxi's tac rifles were balanced murder taxi's still murdered people got bored of getting murdered by taxis, skills into AV murder taxi's now getting murdered AV deemed OP

Takahiro Kashuken Red STar. EoN. 619	Posted - 2013.07.08 09:58:00 - [21] - Quote AV is OP Proto AV vs basic vehicles AV nades doing more damage than mines, AV nades/FG doing more damage than a vehicle mounted proto railgun, swarms broken since they still follow you around corners do 270deg turns on the spot and are invisible half the time
Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 7	Posted - 2013.07.08 10:07:00 - [22] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: Xender17 wrote: I suppose I'm complaining but this needs to be known because there is a sudden increase in AV. I use to see proto forges before 3x sp week once a match now there are 3. Plus swarms which also have increased. Technically you're not complaining; all your statements are simply observations. And the fact that vehicles deaths happen more simply show that: AV is working as intended This is pretty much it - I was sick of getting run over by death taxis, so I specced into AV grenades, made myself a fitting just for AV with swarm launcher to match, and now when I see a tank or a taxi on the field, my next spawn is the AV suit. Having said that, I still have trouble killing logi LAV's.


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