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Skipper Jones
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:20:00 -
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Let me explain something to you. The majority of the people in this game uses the AR. Of course it will get the most kills.
That Data doesn't show anything about something being OP, it just shows the frequency of use. If the majority of people in this game use the Scrambler Rifle, then it would obviously have the highest kills per game. Does that make the SR OP? NO!
You just told us what weapons are used the most in those battles you were in. Nothing about being OP.
I feel bad for your GF for having to sit there and right down all those stats. |
Skipper Jones
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Posted - 2013.07.09 17:15:00 -
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Bones McGavins wrote:The splash radius of all 3 flaylocks needs to be normalized, same with MD (and id say nades too). Its one thing to make weapons a bit stronger at higher levels
I only think that FP splash radius should be reduced. And ONLY the FP.
The FP is basically a miniature Mass Driver, and if the miniature version of something is just as effective as the regular version.....then there is a problem.
The FP fires mini rockets at a quick rate. Maybe CCP could lower the DMG but give it more rounds? Maybe also a little less range? Then It would turn out to have quick firing, mini rockets, 8 rounds in it but lower DMG and splash radius.
They way to solve the FLG is to get rid of contact grenades in general.
Contact grenades are the only pay to win item in the game... and you don't want the game to have a little P2W in it? Do you CCP? |
Skipper Jones
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Posted - 2013.07.09 19:12:00 -
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Superluminal Replicant wrote:Totally agree with original poster, that the AR is indeed an incredibly overpowered weapon and the reason most players use it. it needs a seriously massive nerf to get these players to try some other weapon and make the game more fun. Every time I die in a pub match; which isn't much these days, but every time I do it's 99% likely to be from one of the overpowered Assault Rifles that everyone uses. I find it kind of sad really, I enjoy using my proto forge and proto flaylock heavy, I don't want to be some overpowered AR ***.
Nooo.
The reason everybody uses it is because of two reasons
1) THEY START THE GAME WITH IT. A new player that comes in the game will think "Here's an assault rifle. It's free" They give them free ARs, they get comfortable with it, and continue to use it. You people don't understand that.
2) It is a comfortable weapon. It doesn't require much skill to use it and it is in every other FPS. People feel comfortable with guns that they've played with before.
The AR is not OP.
And no, I don't use the AR, I use the AScR |
Skipper Jones
Molon Labe.
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Posted - 2013.07.18 22:39:00 -
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Dynnen Vvardenfell wrote:Personally I don't think you have enough data.
You need WHO was killing who in there as well. If a guy with 5 points into proficiency is in there hes going to be doing some insane damage, along with damage modifiers. Do they have good gun-game?
Also what TYPE of AR are they using? Proto? Advanced? Basic? Militia?
What are the lifetime SP of the players involved?
Also what maps were these on? Were they more open maps or did they have a city? Where did the fighting take place on the specific map?
I don't know if these questions have been asked, but they should if they haven't been. =D
This is true.
I've seen (personally as well) people get 20+, 30+, 40+ kills with the AR. Therefore you would see it on the kill feed more.
A person using a Duvolle, complex damage mods, and proficiency 5 is a killer (experience). Does it mean the gun is OP? That person put skills, isk, and time into making that weapon have a large damage output. The gun should be able to deliver.
There are so many variables that are flawed in this experiment. There is basically no way to "test" a gun's OPness.
It just is, or it isn't for other reasons than usage. |
Skipper Jones
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.18 22:43:00 -
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RINON114 wrote:
I was just going to say exactly this. Just because the US army uses the M4 or M16, doesn't mean it's the best gun ever. It has positives and negatives that come with it. Compare it to a Kalshnikov of any variant. AK's use higher caliber rounds and inflict more terrible injuries (higher damage) where the M4 and M16 have more accuracy at longer ranges.
What this boils down to is that players will use something that is comfortable for them, and the AR does that. It has good damage, good range and a decent mag size, and great accuracy. The scrambler is better than an AR in all of these aspects except that it overheats. Why aren't players using it instead? Because it's a Kalashnikov and they grew up shooting their dad's M16.
Edit: I realise that a civilian can't get a military grade M16 in the US, but they can get close to it with any standard AR-15 model.
I can relate.
When I was a kid, my uncle and I would go out back and shoot his .22 rifle. I loved it. The first gun I ever fired.
Is the .22 Rifle the best civilian gun? No.
Will I continue to love and shoot it? Yes.
I grew up with the .22, I'm used to it. I like it. Therefore, I use it.
Makes sense |
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