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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
172
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:56:00 -
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Can I have 50hp more for shields and armor ? Please ? 100aHP.
That is all i'll need to make the Commando work for me ... NOTHING else... JUST that.
Thanks. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
172
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Posted - 2013.07.07 12:54:00 -
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Yeah, and also reduce the Shield delay a bit too.. maybe by 1 second ? Please, pretty please ? |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
163
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Posted - 2013.07.07 13:04:00 -
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300/300 seems like the proper armor/shield for the Amarr Commando. I mean, if Amarr is supposed to have more base HP than the other racial variants than I feel sorry for the future commandos considering the lack of mod slots.
Also I'm fine with the base shield delay, but the base shield recharge of about 10 per second is a bit overkill. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
172
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Posted - 2013.07.07 13:10:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:300/300 seems like the proper armor/shield for the Amarr Commando. I mean, if Amarr is supposed to have more base HP than the other racial variants than I feel sorry for the future commandos considering the lack of mod slots.
Also I'm fine with the base shield delay, but the base shield recharge of about 10 per second is a bit overkill.
Yeah, actually both stats for the shields are a bit to low.. even that with the 2nd tier ( A/1 ? ) the recharge rate is a bit higher..even if the stats don't say so... is that a typo error by CCP ? because it does feels a "bit" higher. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
164
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Posted - 2013.07.07 13:13:00 -
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I run the advanced Commando suit. I haven't actually looked directly at the stats, but from what I recall when glancing at my shields going up it is still 10 per second. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
172
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Posted - 2013.07.07 13:21:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:I run the advanced Commando suit. I haven't actually looked directly at the stats, but from what I recall when glancing at my shields going up it is still 10 per second.
Like i said, is a BIT higher.. not enough to make a significant difference, still needs a buff.
but, at least we agree that 300hp / 300hp, and a shield buff is everything the Commando suit needs.. don't make the thing OP, please CCP ... just 50hp to shields and armor... and "little" buff to shields recharge and delay. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
165
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Posted - 2013.07.07 13:40:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:I run the advanced Commando suit. I haven't actually looked directly at the stats, but from what I recall when glancing at my shields going up it is still 10 per second. Like i said, is a BIT higher.. not enough to make a significant difference, still needs a buff. but, at least we agree that 300hp / 300hp, and a shield buff is everything the Commando suit needs.. don't make the thing OP, please CCP ... just 50hp to shields and armor... and " little" buff to shields recharge and delay. And considering the two of us together make up 100% of the Commando community on these forums, our agreement should be taken seriously by CCP. |
Remm Duchax
ParagonX
54
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Posted - 2013.07.07 13:44:00 -
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Oh, other Commando suit user! I personally think a HP buff would be helpful. The problem now is that when you around, you're just too slow to hide when under fire. Combine that with less than the HP of a Heavy and you're usually in trouble when they take you by surprise. Atleast on my Heavy I can afford to run away.
Anyway instead of an HP buff, I could also live with a small speed buff, to make it almost up to par with the slowest medium suit. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
4497
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Posted - 2013.07.07 13:50:00 -
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God speed |
Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
343
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Posted - 2013.07.07 13:50:00 -
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Honestly Commando suit would be fine if core flaylocks werent so OP. The core flaylock sidearm makes a second light weapon slot a joke. |
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
172
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Posted - 2013.07.07 14:09:00 -
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Remm Duchax wrote:Oh, other Commando suit user! I personally think a HP buff would be helpful. The problem now is that when you around, you're just too slow to hide when under fire. Combine that with less than the HP of a Heavy and you're usually in trouble when they take you by surprise. Atleast on my Heavy I can afford to run away.
Anyway instead of an HP buff, I could also live with a small speed buff, to make it almost up to par with the slowest medium suit.
No speed, any buff to the commando suit, will make it nearly as fast as a Caldary suit, and then the QQing and the OP threads will start all over again.. LEAVE the speed alone. |
Cpt Merdock
Ninth Legion Freelance
38
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Posted - 2013.07.07 14:14:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:300/300 seems like the proper armor/shield for the Amarr Commando. I mean, if Amarr is supposed to have more base HP than the other racial variants than I feel sorry for the future commandos considering the lack of mod slots.
Also I'm fine with the base shield delay, but the base shield recharge of about 10 per second is a bit overkill.
amarr suits have low amount of slots naturally across the board...hopefully this pattern hold true and the minmitar commando has a slot on the standard verson :P |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2013.07.07 14:31:00 -
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I think they should add a side arm slot
It would also be cool to see the base hp value rise on advanced suit,
the Cmdo bonus is dumb, it should be weapon rof, or range, or ,.. weapon slot related
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Hunter Fencen
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
11
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Posted - 2013.07.07 14:37:00 -
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Honestly i'd be happier with just a lower suit cost. If you're looking for commandos go to my corp, we got 6 of us |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
172
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Posted - 2013.07.07 14:41:00 -
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Hunter Fencen wrote:Honestly i'd be happier with just a lower suit cost. If you're looking for commandos go to my corp, we got 6 of us
I rather have the suit durability improve, than having the price drop and still die like a fly. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
405
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Posted - 2013.07.07 14:44:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:I run the advanced Commando suit. I haven't actually looked directly at the stats, but from what I recall when glancing at my shields going up it is still 10 per second. Like i said, is a BIT higher.. not enough to make a significant difference, still needs a buff. but, at least we agree that 300hp / 300hp, and a shield buff is everything the Commando suit needs.. don't make the thing OP, please CCP ... just 50hp to shields and armor... and " little" buff to shields recharge and delay. And considering the two of us together make up 100% of the Commando community on these forums, our agreement should be taken seriously by CCP.
I'm a commando and i want a grenade |
Maverick Raidon
xCosmic Voidx The Superpowers
4
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Posted - 2013.07.07 18:27:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:
I'm a commando and i want a grenade
I have commando alt and I full agree with this statement. |
imma monsta
OUT FOR BLOOD.
10
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Posted - 2013.07.07 18:30:00 -
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You mean the bright red bullseyes that run around and ask for snipers to hit them? |
DRE PrEaCh
Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack
11
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Posted - 2013.07.07 18:51:00 -
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Don't call the FRICKIN THING a HEAVY SUIT if u can't equip A HEAVY GUN ON THE DAMN THING SOB |
Carter Raynor
The Generals EoN.
56
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Posted - 2013.07.07 18:54:00 -
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I run the basic commando, and I'm saving for advanced. I agree with the 50/50 ehp buff, it does need that. Shields recharge painfully slow and basically requires a logi to run with you. I wish we had 1high1low to start with, then 2high1low adv, and 2high2low proto.
Proto doesn't seem like a good deal atm, a massive sp sinkhole with not a big hurdle over the advanced suit. What would make it more worth while would be upping the equipment slots to 2 for it, and having the mentioned changes above in place. The commando would be a cool heavy/assault/logi kinda mix making it unique. Having a commando accompany a heavy on the frontlines, dropping an uplink and ammohive/healthhive would be amazing.
Just some ideas. |
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
172
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Posted - 2013.07.07 20:45:00 -
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imma monsta wrote:You mean the bright red bullseyes that run around and ask for snipers to hit them?
Yeah, that one... the one that snipers think they going to get a HUGE reward for killing them.... |
Hunter Fencen
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
11
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Posted - 2013.07.07 20:52:00 -
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Why not give the proto a heavy and light weapon keep everything else the same? Then its not such a sink. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
172
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Posted - 2013.07.07 20:54:00 -
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Hunter Fencen wrote:Why not give the proto a heavy and light weapon keep everything else the same? Then its not such a sink.
Hell No!! you know how OP that will be ?....just NO. |
Hunter Fencen
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
11
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Posted - 2013.07.07 21:15:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Hunter Fencen wrote:Why not give the proto a heavy and light weapon keep everything else the same? Then its not such a sink. Hell No!! you know how OP that will be ?....just NO.
Ok then how about a grenade, I don't want them to touch my beauty either my friend, I love the suit too damn much. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
172
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Posted - 2013.07.07 21:24:00 -
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Hunter Fencen wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Hunter Fencen wrote:Why not give the proto a heavy and light weapon keep everything else the same? Then its not such a sink. Hell No!! you know how OP that will be ?....just NO. Ok then how about a grenade, I don't want them to touch my beauty either my friend, I love the suit too damn much.
Maybe in the Proto one, but not the others. People will abuse the grenade slot very quickly.... grenades with a Swarm Launcher and an AR...better avoid anything that will go to the nerfing hammer in the future. |
KING CHECKMATE
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
189
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Posted - 2013.07.07 22:17:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Can I have 50hp more for shields and armor ? Please ? 100aHP.
That is all i'll need to make the Commando work for me ... NOTHING else... JUST that.
Thanks.
Give this a read, see what you think:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1009894#post1009894 |
KING CHECKMATE
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
192
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Posted - 2013.07.07 22:21:00 -
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Hunter Fencen wrote:Why not give the proto a heavy and light weapon keep everything else the same? Then its not such a sink.
HEHEHE I LIKE THE WAY YOU THINK.
Using an AR or a Scrambler rifle when you are about to be runned over! poor slow commando.
I think not , say hello to my little friend!!...
*Takes out Proto Forge gun* |
DildoMcnutz
The Tickle Monsters
44
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Posted - 2013.07.07 22:22:00 -
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what about more cpu and pg? to be honest the amount of cpu/pg, slot layout, shield recharge rate and barely faster movement over the standard heavy suit make it incredibly unappealing. No grenades? what the...Id be interested on how you guys fit em, played around on how id fit it on paper and couldn't come up with anything remotely good when compared to a medium suit. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
177
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Posted - 2013.07.07 23:42:00 -
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Carter Raynor wrote:I run the basic commando, and I'm saving for advanced. I agree with the 50/50 ehp buff, it does need that. Shields recharge painfully slow and basically requires a logi to run with you. I wish we had 1high1low to start with, then 2high1low adv, and 2high2low proto.
Proto doesn't seem like a good deal atm, a massive sp sinkhole with not a big hurdle over the advanced suit. What would make it more worth while would be upping the equipment slots to 2 for it, and having the mentioned changes above in place. The commando would be a cool heavy/assault/logi kinda mix making it unique. Having a commando accompany a heavy on the frontlines, dropping an uplink and ammohive/healthhive would be amazing.
Just some ideas. Definitely agree that the prototype is not worth it. I'm not going to sink nearly 2 million SP for one more slot. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
177
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Posted - 2013.07.07 23:47:00 -
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DildoMcnutz wrote:what about more cpu and pg? to be honest the amount of cpu/pg, slot layout, shield recharge rate and barely faster movement over the standard heavy suit make it incredibly unappealing. No grenades? what the...Id be interested on how you guys fit em, played around on how id fit it on paper and couldn't come up with anything remotely good when compared to a medium suit. I fit my standard with the advanced assault scrambler rifle, standard laser rifle, militia repair tool, militia light damage modifier, and standard reactive plates. And mind you, the only reason I use those militia items is because the advanced versions won't fit and the standard versions leave excess room. Might as well use the militia since they have the same stats as standard and cost less. |
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Hunter Fencen
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
12
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Posted - 2013.07.07 23:55:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:DildoMcnutz wrote:what about more cpu and pg? to be honest the amount of cpu/pg, slot layout, shield recharge rate and barely faster movement over the standard heavy suit make it incredibly unappealing. No grenades? what the...Id be interested on how you guys fit em, played around on how id fit it on paper and couldn't come up with anything remotely good when compared to a medium suit. I fit my standard with the advanced assault scrambler rifle, standard laser rifle, militia repair tool, militia light damage modifier, and standard reactive plates. And mind you, the only reason I use those militia items is because the advanced versions won't fit and the standard versions leave excess room. Might as well use the militia since they have the same stats as standard and cost less.
I call BS here sadly, if you were a really commando you'd know theres no slots on the standard and that militia equipment is worse than standard |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
178
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Posted - 2013.07.07 23:59:00 -
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Hunter Fencen wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:DildoMcnutz wrote:what about more cpu and pg? to be honest the amount of cpu/pg, slot layout, shield recharge rate and barely faster movement over the standard heavy suit make it incredibly unappealing. No grenades? what the...Id be interested on how you guys fit em, played around on how id fit it on paper and couldn't come up with anything remotely good when compared to a medium suit. I fit my standard with the advanced assault scrambler rifle, standard laser rifle, militia repair tool, militia light damage modifier, and standard reactive plates. And mind you, the only reason I use those militia items is because the advanced versions won't fit and the standard versions leave excess room. Might as well use the militia since they have the same stats as standard and cost less. I call BS here sadly, if you were a really commando you'd know theres no slots on the standard and that militia equipment is worse than standard. We commando's must unite against our foes the assaults Oops, sorry I meant to say advanced commando suit. Also the militia light damage modifier and standard light damage modifier have equal stats, but the militia is more CPU/PG intensive and a lot cheaper. I don't quite recall the difference between militia and standard repair tool but they are pretty similar and again the militia is a lot cheaper. Usually I don't care about cost but when the suit itself is nearly double in price compared to the rest of the suits combined with the fact that a second light weapon costs more than a sidearm on average, I need to consider the values.
My suit now costs about 40,000 ISK which allows me to die a few times while still maintaining a profit.
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Hunter Fencen
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
12
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Posted - 2013.07.08 00:20:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Hunter Fencen wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:DildoMcnutz wrote:what about more cpu and pg? to be honest the amount of cpu/pg, slot layout, shield recharge rate and barely faster movement over the standard heavy suit make it incredibly unappealing. No grenades? what the...Id be interested on how you guys fit em, played around on how id fit it on paper and couldn't come up with anything remotely good when compared to a medium suit. I fit my standard with the advanced assault scrambler rifle, standard laser rifle, militia repair tool, militia light damage modifier, and standard reactive plates. And mind you, the only reason I use those militia items is because the advanced versions won't fit and the standard versions leave excess room. Might as well use the militia since they have the same stats as standard and cost less. I call BS here sadly, if you were a really commando you'd know theres no slots on the standard and that militia equipment is worse than standard. We commando's must unite against our foes the assaults Oops, sorry I meant to say advanced commando suit. Also the militia light damage modifier and standard light damage modifier have equal stats, but the militia is more CPU/PG intensive and a lot cheaper. I don't quite recall the difference between militia and standard repair tool but they are pretty similar and again the militia is a lot cheaper. Usually I don't care about cost but when the suit itself is nearly double in price compared to the rest of the suits combined with the fact that a second light weapon costs more than a sidearm on average, I need to consider the values. My suit now costs about 40,000 ISK which allows me to die a few times while still maintaining a profit. Same here my advanced suits do tend to cost that much, this is just a suggestion but perhaps you'd be better off with a MD PC or AR instead of a laser as you seem pretty shield intensive there. Also get shield extenders, I know of no other commandos who don't use their high for that and reactives for their low. I give myself 2 deaths before going militia though to keep a healthy profit. I have a MD and AR or shotty and AR as I'm pretty frontline badass intensive atm, loads of fun though :) Sorry for accusing you of being a assault scrub but can't be too careful these days |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
183
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Posted - 2013.07.08 00:27:00 -
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Hunter Fencen wrote:this is just a suggestion but perhaps you'd be better off with a MD PC or AR instead of a laser as you seem pretty shield intensive there. Blasphemy! I am a proud child of God and I shall use no technology from non-believers! |
Caineghis Beoulve
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
10
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Posted - 2013.07.08 01:41:00 -
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As a commando too, i would like a reduction in the proto suit price. its 90k+ isk when the other proto suits are in the 50k ranges. Also i think we should have 50 more shield and armor as everyone is saying here. A bit more CPU or PG could be nice too.
But what i really want is another high slot at proto level or even another low slot. |
Hunter Fencen
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
14
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Posted - 2013.07.08 09:05:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Hunter Fencen wrote:this is just a suggestion but perhaps you'd be better off with a MD PC or AR instead of a laser as you seem pretty shield intensive there. Blasphemy! I am a proud child of God and I shall use no technology from non-believers!
I am a commando I turn the tech of the non-believers even though it is inferior and use it against them, long live the Amarr! |
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