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Yun Hee Ryeon
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Posted - 2013.07.07 23:19:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:funny thing is, your empire is dominated by the wicked
Considering all the horrors the New Eden cluster has to offer, it's always seemed odd that people get so fixated on the Empire. They're not the only slavers, and they're certainly not the worst. If you think the Amarr are ruled by the wicked, you might want to do some research on the Sani Sabik. They're like the Amarr, only minus the basic belief in a benevolent deity and plus a good dose of power worship. They consider bleeding prisoners to death a sacred act, they're something of a major player in "pirate faction" politics, and they're allied with Sansha's Nation.
It's kind of a problem. |
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Posted - 2013.07.11 00:30:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I imagine similar things were being said right before Heth held his little revolution, too.
That situation was different both economically and politically. The megacorporations had lost their way, and resentment flowed from perceptions of nepotism and mismanagement. One good thing to come out of Heth's rule was a restoration of the meritocracy; the megacorporations will not likely be so foolish as to forget the lessons learned.
Of course, there is still plenty of work to be done. |
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Posted - 2013.07.11 00:53:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:In any case physical wealth is nothing when compared to a cause. There is not power like absolute dedication under the heavens.
Those who fight with that in mind will sweep away any foe that lies before them.
Respectfully, the only person in the Empire who has, as yet, shown the ability to sweep away any foe that lies before her is the Empress. In which case, it appears that absolute dedication under the heavens appears as a mysterious ball of green plasma, or possibly some kind of energy.
I do not mean to mock your faith, sir, but it does not seem ... prudent ... to make statements that are obviously and verifiably untrue, at least in the short term. Perhaps the Amarr will indeed sweep aside their enemies, but the progress of the last hundred years should make it abundantly clear that if your god is granting you such power, he is playing a long game.
In the short run, respectfully, you do bleed like the rest of us.
That said, I have to agree that selling one's loyalty to the highest bidder and claiming this as a particularly moral act is almost as bizarre as siding with Sansha's Nation out of philanthropy. |
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Posted - 2013.07.11 04:23:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:All I mean to say is that anyone with the will power, and the dedication will undoubtedly triumph over those lacking such qualities, not that the empire is doing such.
We have will, but we fight empires with similarly strong wills. It is a true test of faith.
However when facing men and women with no sense of unity or purpose they shall be utterly defeated, for they have lost all sense of being.
What I said I meant in a more general sense.
... hm.
I apologize, templar. Please forgive my arrogance.
Speaking only for myself, war has been a matter more of awareness and of calculation than of faith: a clear mind and a calm heart. Yet ... maintaining these, being able to think clearly under pressure, being able to shake off shock, and doubt, and calmly step through an uplink knowing that it is going to feel as though your nervous system were being microwaved?
It is true: faith does have something to do with it. |
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Posted - 2013.07.11 04:44:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: Again I think I am explaining myself poorly. Faith and Determination are two very different things.
I may be faithful but nor determined and in battle I shall fall before my foes.
You ideals are what I would consider determination and will power.
The one communicating poorly is me, templar. I meant faith as you did when you said that this war will be a test of faith-- broadly.
However, it also seems as though the other sort of faith has something to do with those broader qualities. It might be a source of inspiration and guidance, even if the gods do not intercede on our behalf. |
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Posted - 2013.07.13 06:09:00 -
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All this talk of the original colonies....
Your ancestors all had their reasons. The war lasted for decades; there was a reason for that.
Historical rights and wrongs aside, it comes to this:
The Caldari believe in defending the rights of the many, and are ruled by the meritorious few. The Gallente believe in defending the rights of the one, and are ruled by the will of the many.
Each path is functional. Each has its faults. People can and do live happily in either society.
Do any of you, on either side, actually doubt your opponents' sincerity?
Demonize one another if you must, but, respectfully to all concerned, it takes the greater courage to look your foe in the eye, and recognize that she is human as you are, and that had you met in another context you might even have been friends ... and then shoot her between the eyes.
There is a war on. We probably will not end it here.
Let's get on with it. |
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Posted - 2013.07.18 15:43:00 -
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Arc-08 wrote:Some day the weak Caldari State will crumble beneath the power of the Gallente and our Ishukone allies.
I suspect that Ishukone would regard this as slander, soldier. |
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Posted - 2013.07.18 16:03:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:Arc-08 wrote:Some day the weak Caldari State will crumble beneath the power of the Gallente and our Ishukone allies. Like during the Gallente-Caldari war that lasted a hundred years?And I'm not sure why a Caldari corporation would side with the Gallente, at best they have done some businesses with Intaki colonies, far from an alliance.
To be fair to the Federal patriot, Mr. Kalamari, Ishukone was apparently instrumental in establishing the Caldari Prime demilitarized zone. That agreement was apparently reached behind Tibus Heth's back.
Of course, it was far from alone. SuVee also participated extensively, and only Lai Dai and Heth's Kaalakiota refused to sign the agreement. So, perhaps it is not such a rebellion as all that-- rather a bit of shrewd political navigation. |
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Posted - 2013.07.23 04:08:00 -
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itsmellslikefish wrote:Would you still say I was a good person if I told you I was a sniper?
That depends, really. Doesn't everything?
If you are the sort of sniper who takes care to cover null cannon control consoles, relay relevant tactical information to teammates, and weaken strong targets so that your squad can dispatch them, all without any special regard to your own kill count, I'd say you are (or at least have the makings of) a good sniper.
If you are the sort who fires randomly at whatever hostiles happen to be in your crosshairs at the moment, relays no data, and ignores the tactical conditions on the field, I would say you are a good person to have fighting on the other side. |
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