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Deluxe Edition wrote:

DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

Deluxe Edition wrote:

General John Ripper wrote:

DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

You know why their doing this; their making an example out of him. We should learn from it.

agreed.

Anyone who thinks treating the kid this poorly seems to be perfectly content to exchange liberty for security.

His comment was clearly sarcasm especially when taken in context of the entire conversation (their was even an lol jk at the end). He had no access to weapons or anything that suggested he had plans on carrying anything out. I'm not saying the police shouldn't of at least checked out the threat however him spending 5 months in prison is ludicris. At the worst he should of had to spent a few days being evaluated at a mental institution.

This story = terrorist win.

May not be 'right'. Though, it is the law. Nothing can be done now for him, in any case. Even if the law was changed, so as to allow sarcasm to make death threat violations null, which would be hard to enforce in any shape or form, it would not help him.

You can petition your government officials to amend the law. That is about all, though.

Oh and on a further note; don't ever accuse me of wanting to give up rights for security. I am opposed to the TSA, stricter gun control and a load of other such issues.

Though, as I mentioned in the above text, as long as the current laws stand, learn of them and abide by them. Or suffer the consequences... There is a fourth option, learn to break them.

No actually this is not in the law. It is incompetence, if this was against the law comedy club comedians would be escorted off the stage by police nightly. Only in very strict circumstances where you can cause a panic is any kind of speach restricted. Basically the police where in the right to investigate, however it is easy to determine that the threat was in no way credible especially with the speech being taken into context.

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Deluxe Edition TeamPlayers EoN. 445	Posted - 2013.07.06 19:00:00 - [1] - Quote This might be old news to some, however I just read this story for the first time yesterday. Justin Carter is guilty of what millions of gamers do every day. Simply trolling and being sarcastic. He has spent the last 5 months in prison where he has been beaten to the point of having concussions and black eyes and now sits alone in solitary, naked and under suicide watch. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/03/teen-jailed-facebook-comment-justin-carter-suicide-watch_n_3542770.html
Princeps Marcellus Expert Intervention Caldari State 76	Posted - 2013.07.07 01:46:00 - [2] - Quote Deluxe Edition wrote: This might be old news to some, however I just read this story for the first time yesterday. Justin Carter is guilty of what millions of gamers do every day. Simply trolling and being sarcastic. He has spent the last 5 months in prison where he has been beaten to the point of having concussions and black eyes and now sits alone in solitary, naked and under suicide watch. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/03/teen-jailed-facebook-comment-justin-carter-suicide-watch_n_3542770.html He's not coming out of that the same way he came in.
DeadlyAztec11 Max-Pain-inc 633	Posted - 2013.07.07 04:01:00 - [3] - Quote You know why their doing this; their making an example out of him. We should learn from it.
Buddha Brown Factory Fresh 41	Posted - 2013.07.08 18:34:00 - [4] - Quote I highly doubt he's being treated THAT poorly, defense attorneys will do and say anything it takes. On the other side of the coin 5 months is a bit extreme, I could understand if they were able to back up his threat with evidence but that doesn't seem to be the case. Regardless, you are ultimately accountable for the words you speak and type and just because you were "kidding" or "trolling" doesn't make it OK to say anything and everything you want without repercussion. Most people don't know or care about LoL and it's not a valid excuse to publicly threaten to kill people.
Buddha Brown Factory Fresh 41	Posted - 2013.07.08 18:38:00 - [5] - Quote So basically the length of imprisonment does not fit the crime, but they had every right to check him out considering the timing, etc. He should have been set free a long time ago when it was determined there weren't any weapons, plans, anything to hint at actual violence.
General John Ripper The Generals EoN. 1343	Posted - 2013.07.08 18:40:00 - [6] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: You know why their doing this; their making an example out of him. We should learn from it. agreed.
Deluxe Edition TeamPlayers EoN. 479	Posted - 2013.07.08 18:48:00 - [7] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: You know why their doing this; their making an example out of him. We should learn from it. agreed. Anyone who thinks treating the kid this poorly seems to be perfectly content to exchange liberty for security. His comment was clearly sarcasm especially when taken in context of the entire conversation (their was even an lol jk at the end). He had no access to weapons or anything that suggested he had plans on carrying anything out. This story = terrorist win.
calvin b Molon Labe. League of Infamy 12	Posted - 2013.07.08 21:36:00 - [8] - Quote Simple raise funds hire the most evil and sadistic lawyer you can find and put a lawsuit against the city for violation of civil rights. He was not given a fair shake it sounds and the only way those in power respect you is with power. This is the reason I refuse to use social media. Either the government spies on you or your neighbors, call me paranoid but I trust no one for this reason. A simple way of not getting caught, so nothing online.
DeadlyAztec11 Max-Pain-inc 962	Posted - 2013.07.08 23:11:00 - [9] - Quote Deluxe Edition wrote: General John Ripper wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: You know why their doing this; their making an example out of him. We should learn from it. agreed. Anyone who thinks treating the kid this poorly seems to be perfectly content to exchange liberty for security. His comment was clearly sarcasm especially when taken in context of the entire conversation (their was even an lol jk at the end). He had no access to weapons or anything that suggested he had plans on carrying anything out. I'm not saying the police shouldn't of at least checked out the threat however him spending 5 months in prison is ludicris. At the worst he should of had to spent a few days being evaluated at a mental institution. This story = terrorist win. May not be 'right'. Though, it is the law. Nothing can be done now for him, in any case. Even if the law was changed, so as to allow sarcasm to make death threat violations null, which would be hard to enforce in any shape or form, it would not help him. You can petition your government officials to amend the law. That is about all, though. Oh and on a further note; don't ever accuse me of wanting to give up rights for security. I am opposed to the TSA, stricter gun control and a load of other such issues. Though, as I mentioned in the above text, as long as the current laws stand, learn of them and abide by them. Or suffer the consequences... There is a fourth option, learn to break them.
Deluxe Edition TeamPlayers EoN. 486	Posted - 2013.07.08 23:19:00 - [10] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Deluxe Edition wrote: General John Ripper wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: You know why their doing this; their making an example out of him. We should learn from it. agreed. Anyone who thinks treating the kid this poorly seems to be perfectly content to exchange liberty for security. His comment was clearly sarcasm especially when taken in context of the entire conversation (their was even an lol jk at the end). He had no access to weapons or anything that suggested he had plans on carrying anything out. I'm not saying the police shouldn't of at least checked out the threat however him spending 5 months in prison is ludicris. At the worst he should of had to spent a few days being evaluated at a mental institution. This story = terrorist win. May not be 'right'. Though, it is the law. Nothing can be done now for him, in any case. Even if the law was changed, so as to allow sarcasm to make death threat violations null, which would be hard to enforce in any shape or form, it would not help him. You can petition your government officials to amend the law. That is about all, though. Oh and on a further note; don't ever accuse me of wanting to give up rights for security. I am opposed to the TSA, stricter gun control and a load of other such issues. Though, as I mentioned in the above text, as long as the current laws stand, learn of them and abide by them. Or suffer the consequences... There is a fourth option, learn to break them. No actually this is not in the law. It is incompetence, if this was against the law comedy club comedians would be escorted off the stage by police nightly. Only in very strict circumstances where you can cause a panic is any kind of speach restricted. Basically the police where in the right to investigate, however it is easy to determine that the threat was in no way credible especially with the speech being taken into context.

General John Ripper The Generals EoN. 1370	Posted - 2013.07.08 23:43:00 - [11] - Quote Deluxe Edition wrote: General John Ripper wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: You know why their doing this; their making an example out of him. We should learn from it. agreed. Anyone who thinks treating the kid this poorly seems to be perfectly content to exchange liberty for security. His comment was clearly sarcasm especially when taken in context of the entire conversation (their was even an lol jk at the end). He had no access to weapons or anything that suggested he had plans on carrying anything out. I'm not saying the police shouldn't of at least checked out the threat however him spending 5 months in prison is ludicris. At the worst he should of had to spent a few days being evaluated at a mental institution. This story = terrorist win. I had a friend years ago back in highschool. He was kind of like a crazy metal head. He once set bibles on fire in front of the "jesus freaks" in our school and they would just say that they will be praying for him. He thought that their reaction was hilarious. And he continued to do crazy things for the "Lulz" of it. Do I think he was crazy enough for a mental institute? Nah, he was just a dumb kid who did not know how to respect other people with an interesting sense of humor.... My friend was later suspended from school for telling some fat guy that he was going to "kill all the emos in the school". He said it as a joke, and it was taken out of context. He was getting into serious trouble and it was turning into a big deal. They were clearly trying to make an example out of him. It took all of that for him to realize that his sense of humor isn't so funny. Nowadays he has a job,goes to church. He lived and learned. was 5 months in prison harsh? yea probably was a bit much but he got what was coming to him. A man shouldn't be loose with his words. Some people think that just because you add "lol jk" at the end that it is able to justify and rectify any possible previous statement. It does not. A threat is a threat. I believe that people will always act like idiots as long as you continue to treat them like idiots.
DeadlyAztec11 Max-Pain-inc 965	Posted - 2013.07.09 03:28:00 - [12] - Quote Deluxe Edition wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Deluxe Edition wrote: General John Ripper wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: You know why their doing this; their making an example out of him. We should learn from it. agreed. Anyone who thinks treating the kid this poorly seems to be perfectly content to exchange liberty for security. His comment was clearly sarcasm especially when taken in context of the entire conversation (their was even an lol jk at the end). He had no access to weapons or anything that suggested he had plans on carrying anything out. I'm not saying the police shouldn't of at least checked out the threat however him spending 5 months in prison is ludicris. At the worst he should of had to spent a few days being evaluated at a mental institution. This story = terrorist win. May not be 'right'. Though, it is the law. Nothing can be done now for him, in any case. Even if the law was changed, so as to allow sarcasm to make death threat violations null, which would be hard to enforce in any shape or form, it would not help him. You can petition your government officials to amend the law. That is about all, though. Oh and on a further note; don't ever accuse me of wanting to give up rights for security. I am opposed to the TSA, stricter gun control and a load of other such issues. Though, as I mentioned in the above text, as long as the current laws stand, learn of them and abide by them. Or suffer the consequences... There is a fourth option, learn to break them. No actually this is not in the law. It is incompetence, if this was against the law comedy club comedians would be escorted off the stage by police nightly. Only in very strict circumstances where you can cause a panic is any kind of speach restricted. Basically the police where in the right to investigate, however it is easy to determine that the threat was in no way credible especially with the speech being taken into context. Terroristic threats are indeed against the law. On the note of comedians; if they threaten a person in the audience than they may be liable to pay the consequences of making threats. The current generation has forgotten of the weight that words carry. Just because we might be miles apart from the person that we are addressing, does not mean that we should act any less well behaved than we would if that same person were in hand shaking distance. If you would not threaten someone in person, you should have no comfort doing so through a computer monitor.


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