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Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
684
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Posted - 2013.07.06 16:52:00 -
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If you'd like to experience for yourself what forge gun fodder - I mean, 'terror of the skies'- you can be with 16 million SP purely dedicated to dropships!
I'll build it how you like it.
Disclaimer: I cannot be responsible for ~redline rail tanks sniping you an entire match with impunity ~redline turrets sniping you an entire match with impunity ~the "Sea of Grenades" (aka being anywhere close enough to the ground where you might see targets" ~kamakazi vipers (they're like 85k isk but can one shot you) ~Forge guns (They're a few thousand isk and can obliterate you within a couple seconds ~Mass drivers (They can topple even an armor ship and jam it into the ground in a hit or two from 50 feet below) ~RDV's (Aka free lav delivery systems. They can still spawn into or fly into your ship, faster now too! Will one shot it. ~RDV malfunction (Happens rarely now but your million isk ship is not guaranteed to be delivered. Sorry : / ~Destruction on delivery (Read: Forge guns can hit you from opposite sides of the map, redline to redline, from the start). Ship may be sniped before landing if anyone spawns in with a FG. ~Blueberry thieves ~Blueberry ramming (ships, LAV's Tanks will all crush you if they hit) ~Blueberry trolling (Friendly fire FG, MD, Rail turret, Rail tank, small rail LAV, any rail anything can and will send you careening to your death ~Discrepancies caused by having only standard ships vs Proto and Officer AV weapons. trollolol ~Turret malfunction ( Gunners turrets cannot aim towards the lower front without being snapped in an odd+useless direction. It's a bug ~Gunner malfunction (If your gunner is shot out, he cannot get back in the dropship. It's a bug ~End of match ship loss (If you're in the redzone, or calling in a vehicle as game ends, you'll lose it anyhow) ~premature ship loss (Be careful not to get killed while calling in vehicle or getting crushed by it, or it's gone. ~AFK timer explosion (If you're outside it for a minute it will die ~Spontaneous combustion (If you press start while parked on a structure, you will die) ~MCC Missile impact (They will all one shot you, and the sky is full of these buggers. Look out! ~Installation drop death (If an installation falls on you, GG) ~PSN/Internet/CCP disconnects/Hard crashes/freezes/Etc (You will lose the ship regardless. GG ISK) ~Invisible non-textured objects with collision in the sky (On one map there is a non-textured flat square, if you hit it, you will die. Lol, have fun finding this one! ~Invisible+Silent swarms. (You thought you were safe, you slowed down, you died. GG) ~Entire teams switching to free AV (Swarms, militia FG). GG ~No WP for anything other than kills ~But wait, you're "Not a gun ship", hence medium aircraft being less tanky than LAV and having only small modules ~But it's called an assault drop-ship? ~Lol, more SP bait
GOOD LUCK!
If you think this sounds fun, I recommend speccing at least 10 million SP into getting these things anywhere near capable of surviving the first few moments of a game. I think CCP did a good job of making these things attractive to new users. I mean, why would anyone NOT want to play a dropship in Dust 514?
Send me a mail in game and we'll get started with your very own ship rentals -TODAY! |
Cy Clone1
Ill Omens EoN.
44
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Posted - 2013.07.06 16:54:00 -
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if any of those things are not on the map they actually work quite well. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1438
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Posted - 2013.07.06 16:56:00 -
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Oh look, another dropship thread! This one will be different from the thousands of others that came before it, I'm sure!
*Reads thread*
Alas, I am wrong again... My search must continue...
*Throws cloak over himself and disappears into the night* |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
684
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Posted - 2013.07.06 16:57:00 -
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Cy Clone1 wrote:if any of those things are not on the map they actually work quite well.
Yep! 60% of the time, work's 100% of the time :P
I made a dropsuit fit that stripped off all shields, armor, modules, mods, weapons, sidearms, and only could melee people to death slowly.
It too, work's great when nobody pays attention to me, moves, or hits me back. I love it! |
oso tiburon
The Generals EoN.
69
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Posted - 2013.07.06 16:57:00 -
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you sir +1 I have a hanger full of these sitting naked parked |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
687
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Posted - 2013.07.06 17:16:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Oh look, another dropship thread! This one will be different from the thousands of others that came before it, I'm sure!
*Reads thread*
Alas, I am wrong again... My search must continue...
*Throws cloak over himself and disappears into the night*
Oh you want something different? Wait till the pilot suits come out, with a pathetic +1% resist or +1% PG/CPU The ensuing "nerf dropships, DS OP!" threads will be hilarious.
Till then: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmLqs8qkP_Y |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1934
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Posted - 2013.07.06 23:39:00 -
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What fit do you have if it costs over a million? My best is just short of 800,000 ISK (the only thing that can destroy it is the pilot itself; rawr) |
loumanchew
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
47
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Posted - 2013.07.07 00:04:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:If you'd like to experience for yourself what forge gun fodder - I mean, 'terror of the skies'- you can be with 16 million SP purely dedicated to dropships!
I'll build it how you like it.
Disclaimer: I cannot be responsible for ~redline rail tanks sniping you an entire match with impunity ~redline turrets sniping you an entire match with impunity ~the "Sea of Grenades" (aka being anywhere close enough to the ground where you might see targets" ~kamakazi vipers (they're like 85k isk but can one shot you) ~Forge guns (They're a few thousand isk and can obliterate you within a couple seconds ~Mass drivers (They can topple even an armor ship and jam it into the ground in a hit or two from 50 feet below) ~RDV's (Aka free lav delivery systems. They can still spawn into or fly into your ship, faster now too! Will one shot it. ~RDV malfunction (Happens rarely now but your million isk ship is not guaranteed to be delivered. Sorry : / ~Destruction on delivery (Read: Forge guns can hit you from opposite sides of the map, redline to redline, from the start). Ship may be sniped before landing if anyone spawns in with a FG. ~Blueberry thieves ~Blueberry ramming (ships, LAV's Tanks will all crush you if they hit) ~Blueberry trolling (Friendly fire FG, MD, Rail turret, Rail tank, small rail LAV, any rail anything can and will send you careening to your death ~Discrepancies caused by having only standard ships vs Proto and Officer AV weapons. trollolol ~Turret malfunction ( Gunners turrets cannot aim towards the lower front without being snapped in an odd+useless direction. It's a bug ~Gunner malfunction (If your gunner is shot out, he cannot get back in the dropship. It's a bug ~End of match ship loss (If you're in the redzone, or calling in a vehicle as game ends, you'll lose it anyhow) ~premature ship loss (Be careful not to get killed while calling in vehicle or getting crushed by it, or it's gone. ~AFK timer explosion (If you're outside it for a minute it will die ~Spontaneous combustion (If you press start while parked on a structure, you will die) ~MCC Missile impact (They will all one shot you, and the sky is full of these buggers. Look out! ~Installation drop death (If an installation falls on you, GG) ~PSN/Internet/CCP disconnects/Hard crashes/freezes/Etc (You will lose the ship regardless. GG ISK) ~Invisible non-textured objects with collision in the sky (On one map there is a non-textured flat square, if you hit it, you will die. Lol, have fun finding this one! ~Invisible+Silent swarms. (You thought you were safe, you slowed down, you died. GG) ~Entire teams switching to free AV (Swarms, militia FG). GG ~No WP for anything other than kills ~But wait, you're "Not a gun ship", hence medium aircraft being less tanky than LAV and having only small modules ~But it's called an assault drop-ship? ~Lol, more SP bait
GOOD LUCK!
If you think this sounds fun, I recommend speccing at least 10 million SP into getting these things anywhere near capable of surviving the first few moments of a game. I think CCP did a good job of making these things attractive to new users. I mean, why would anyone NOT want to play a dropship in Dust 514?
Send me a mail in game and we'll get started with your very own ship rentals -TODAY!
I must say if a dev takes the time to address all of the issues you mentionned, they might be actually playable.
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
57
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Posted - 2013.07.07 00:14:00 -
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i have a 785k python and im sure if i got the proto turrets it would easily cost over a mil and the thing is completly useless, i use my 850k eyrx more than that and if it didnt havethe spawn point and none of thoose things mentioned above are on the map its still a little crappy |
Hunter Fencen
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
11
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Posted - 2013.07.07 00:45:00 -
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My decent dropship: Gallentine Assault Incubus Front: cycled proto sides: 1 stabalised proto, 1 cycled proto (may go rail) 1 carpace hardener 1 efficient repper 1 top level plates 1 afterburner f45 damage control price: 1.5mil isk also need: 1 decent pilot with twitch reactions 1 decent gunner who can actually shoot and has skills into turrets 1 railtank or other to take care of installations results: death in nearly 3secs if not constantly aware no WP and therefore SP or ISK every AV guy turning on you really? ccp what you smoking son and can I get some? |
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loumanchew
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
48
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Posted - 2013.07.07 03:39:00 -
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Just got hit for 1900 by a forge gun with 35% resistance on...what a game. |
Serimos Haeraven
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
98
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Posted - 2013.07.07 04:06:00 -
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The most concerning, game-breaking component of Dust as far as Dropships are concerned are Railgun tank red-line snipers. It's a mouthfull, but that use of the tank makes it so OP its rediculous. There are moments i have been literally about 1,500 feet in the air and out of no where all i hear is a little "tick" noise and more than half of my ADS's shield is down (mind you i have a 31% shield resist) and there is absolutely no way to tell where the shot came from. When i lower the ds down, i get hit yet again because the tank is contantly able to watch me behind the red-lined area of their side. It's the most pathetic, useless, and disgusting tactic i have ever witnessed in all of my time playing Dust, and i hope it's abolished quickly. |
Felix Faraday
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
103
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Posted - 2013.07.07 04:23:00 -
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If you learn only one thing... learn this.
NOTHING ccp does is "quick". They've made posts over 6 months ago about changes they are thinking about for dropships... some as simple as turning WP back on for CRU spawn (the same thing that infantry gets with uplinks).
What's changed so far? They dropped the base price a little. That's it.
Don't expect anything to change with Dropship for a month at the BARE minimum, realistically, more like several months.
Give up now. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
698
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Posted - 2013.07.07 05:18:00 -
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loumanchew wrote:Just got hit for 1900 by a forge gun with 35% resistance on...what a game. You might have been hit by this thing: FG one-shots assault dropship
6400 damage through whatever passive skills give. Somewhere around 10-15% I think I had on that one at the time. Modules were off though. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
698
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Posted - 2013.07.07 05:21:00 -
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Felix Faraday wrote:If you learn only one thing... learn this. NOTHING ccp does is "quick". They've made posts over 6 months ago about changes they are thinking about for dropships... some as simple as turning WP back on for CRU spawn (the same thing that infantry gets with uplinks). What's changed so far? They dropped the base price a little. That's it. Don't expect anything to change with Dropship for a month at the BARE minimum, realistically, more like several months. Give up now.
Honestly quit the game, pull in passive SP and come back after 3 years. By then they'll just be adding Jets, DS will get the same HP increase LAVs and HAV's got, and they'll have a dev blog talking about heavy aircraft we might see around April, 2036
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Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
699
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Posted - 2013.07.07 18:43:00 -
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Any takers? I'll be on later today. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Blueberry Gunners
1943
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Posted - 2013.07.07 19:18:00 -
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loumanchew wrote:Just got hit for 1900 by a forge gun with 35% resistance on...what a game. With all the actives on, my Prometheus has about 50% resistance. I was actually getting hit by swarms and a forge at high altitude several times, but, coupled with damage decay, the damage was too low to notice. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
802
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Posted - 2013.07.08 03:57:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:loumanchew wrote:Just got hit for 1900 by a forge gun with 35% resistance on...what a game. With all the actives on, my Prometheus has about 50% resistance. I was actually getting hit by swarms and a forge at high altitude several times, but, coupled with damage decay, the damage was too low to notice.
I'm not feeling that FG has damage decay. Is it supposed to? |
Asirius Medaius
Planetary Response Organization
13
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Posted - 2013.07.08 06:09:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Felix Faraday wrote:If you learn only one thing... learn this. NOTHING ccp does is "quick". They've made posts over 6 months ago about changes they are thinking about for dropships... some as simple as turning WP back on for CRU spawn (the same thing that infantry gets with uplinks). What's changed so far? They dropped the base price a little. That's it. Don't expect anything to change with Dropship for a month at the BARE minimum, realistically, more like several months. Give up now. Honestly quit the game, pull in passive SP and come back after 3 years. By then they'll just be adding Jets, DS will get the same HP increase LAVs and HAV's got, and they'll have a dev blog talking about heavy aircraft we might see around April, 2036
The only thing that pisses me off about this post is the fact that I can't give more than one "like" for it. My dropship alt was amazing and fun to play in the Battle Academy, and at one point, my best game was 12-0. Through the triple SP event, I was accelerated exactly 3 times faster out of the Battle Academy (since it is SP restricted). Shortly after being removed from queuing in the Battle Academy, and thrust into Proto-world with ~800k SP, I have loved being one-shotted by rail tanks in the red zone, literally RIGHT AFTER my assault dropship deploys.
This only happens 1/3 of the time I call in my dropship with my character that has less than 1/10 of the SP everyone else has. The other 2/3 of my dropships' deaths happen when the RDV hovers around for a bit, trying to decide how to deliver a ship on a perfectly clear landing zone, meanwhile, allowing for Railgun-fitted tanks to shoot over 500 or 600 meters from their redzone to ours, and hit my dropship twice, blowing it up before it even touches the ground.
Since this incident, I have stopped ordering pizzas from my nearby pizza delivery store, in fear that I may pay for a tasty pizza, just to have it destroyed upon delivery. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
808
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Posted - 2013.07.08 06:14:00 -
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Asirius Medaius wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Felix Faraday wrote:If you learn only one thing... learn this. NOTHING ccp does is "quick". They've made posts over 6 months ago about changes they are thinking about for dropships... some as simple as turning WP back on for CRU spawn (the same thing that infantry gets with uplinks). What's changed so far? They dropped the base price a little. That's it. Don't expect anything to change with Dropship for a month at the BARE minimum, realistically, more like several months. Give up now. Honestly quit the game, pull in passive SP and come back after 3 years. By then they'll just be adding Jets, DS will get the same HP increase LAVs and HAV's got, and they'll have a dev blog talking about heavy aircraft we might see around April, 2036 The only thing that pisses me off about this post is the fact that I can't give more than one "like" for it. My dropship alt was amazing and fun to play in the Battle Academy, and at one point, my best game was 12-0. Through the triple SP event, I was accelerated exactly 3 times faster out of the Battle Academy (since it is SP restricted). Shortly after being removed from queuing in the Battle Academy, and thrust into Proto-world with ~800k SP, I have loved being one-shotted by rail tanks in the red zone, literally RIGHT AFTER my assault dropship deploys. This only happens 1/3 of the time I call in my dropship with my character that has less than 1/10 of the SP everyone else has. The other 2/3 of my dropships' deaths happen when the RDV hovers around for a bit, trying to decide how to deliver a ship on a perfectly clear landing zone, meanwhile, allowing for Railgun-fitted tanks to shoot over 500 or 600 meters from their redzone to ours, and hit my dropship twice, blowing it up before it even touches the ground. Since this incident, I have stopped ordering pizzas from my nearby pizza delivery store, in fear that I may pay for a tasty pizza, just to have it destroyed upon delivery.
There's a sniper perched around 600 meters outside your neighborhood waiting to send a magnetically projected rod careening through your pizza the moment it steps out of the car. |
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Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
132
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Posted - 2013.07.08 06:33:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:I'll build it how you like it.
stuff
Send me a mail in game and we'll get started with your very own ship rentals -TODAY! Dude you are a lifesaver, with 1.2 I've been encountering a couple HAVs that can comfortably tank my proto I-FG. Some of the proto Swarm guys are starting to crack jokes. Unacceptable.
I'd like to purchase 100 DS deaths so my kill feed looks a little more respectable again. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
809
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Posted - 2013.07.08 09:08:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:I'll build it how you like it.
stuff
Send me a mail in game and we'll get started with your very own ship rentals -TODAY! Dude you are a lifesaver, with 1.2 I've been encountering a couple HAVs that can comfortably tank my proto I-FG. Some of the proto Swarm guys are starting to crack jokes. Unacceptable. I'd like to purchase 100 DS deaths so my kill feed looks a little more respectable again.
Sure thing! |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
823
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:42:00 -
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Why has nobody messaged me yet?
This offer is too good to pass up, comeon! |
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