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SILVERBACK 01 BetaMax. CRONOS. 13	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:32:00 - [1] - Quote does anyone else feel that playing their current "specialization" i.e logi, tanker,pilot... is getting very boring? seeing as we have had to play a specific skill set for a year now and im not to keen on playing that role for another 4 years... "in CCPs 5 year plan" unless they untilize optional respecs or "paid" respecs, the game is without diversity. yeah sure its great advertising the game saying you can do this and that.. but you cant actually do that unless you skill into it im bored of this game and i want to change up my game style.. but you woukd have me grind for another 2 years? to get my 17 mil sp back? and what of my sp i have spent on my old specialization?? until you input optional respecs your market and target audience will disappear... listen to the people who actually play the game and the fans. to make the game successful in its first year of lauch respecs should be done monthly!! after that do what you want due to the ps4 coming out and noone will play this anyway. said like a boss.
Cody Sietz Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION 376	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:34:00 - [2] - Quote Thats why I started scouting. It can really change how you feel about the game just to invest some sp and try a new play style. Can't wait for Gallente heavys so I can finally get fat.
aden slayer Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 520	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:35:00 - [3] - Quote No respecs ever again. Learn to live with your mistakes.
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 945	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:36:00 - [4] - Quote I think this has been discussed before, but hey, I can't get to the PS3 at the moment anyway, so... I'm in favor of giving people the option to respec, at a significant cost isk/sp, with a cool down of 3-6 months or something. Perhaps AUR could be used to get the respec done after 3 months and before 6 months... as long as it did not reduce the cost of doing a respec. So, penalties, limits on availability, and a way to use money to save time but not give any differential advantage in terms of your ability to use or acquire weaponry.
Knightshade Belladonna Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 399	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:36:00 - [5] - Quote aden slayer wrote: No respecs ever again. Learn to live with your mistakes. who said anything about mistakes lol
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 945	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:37:00 - [6] - Quote aden slayer wrote: No respecs ever again. Learn to live with your mistakes. Yeah, and we want to drive away every new player who makes a mistake and has to repeat months of effort because that is good for the game how?
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4446	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:39:00 - [7] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: aden slayer wrote: No respecs ever again. Learn to live with your mistakes. Yeah, and we want to drive away every new player who makes a mistake and has to repeat months of effort because that is good for the game how? Your decisions mean nothing with CCP ninja nerfing and buffing everything in the damn game, altering the way the game itself plays. The only people that don't want some way to fix mistakes or alter builds are EVE players that need to spy on enemy corporations to gain some kind of edge. Basically, they're mad that spreadsheets in space didn't quite translate to spreadsheets on the ground. Damn shame.
Aizen Intiki Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 41	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:41:00 - [8] - Quote partial respecs only for missing hulls, frames, turrets, and weapons (racial) and that's it. If you want something new, SKILL UP FOR IT.
SILVERBACK 01 BetaMax. CRONOS. 13	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:41:00 - [9] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: aden slayer wrote: No respecs ever again. Learn to live with your mistakes. Yeah, and we want to drive away every new player who makes a mistake and has to repeat months of effort because that is good for the game how? exactly!... its like CCP love to shoot themselves in the foot or something??.. the profits they would make from paid repecs would be imense too, plus the appeal to more new players... CCP are you actually ********? or are you holding out for some big suprise?... -_-
aden slayer Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 520	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:41:00 - [10] - Quote Knightshade Belladonna wrote: aden slayer wrote: No respecs ever again. Learn to live with your mistakes. who said anything about mistakes lol The reason everyone demanded a respecs when uprising was deployed was because people upgraded their skills blindly without reading it's effects and what it unlocks.

Knightshade Belladonna Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 399	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:43:00 - [11] - Quote aden slayer wrote: Knightshade Belladonna wrote: aden slayer wrote: No respecs ever again. Learn to live with your mistakes. who said anything about mistakes lol The reason everyone demanded a respecs when uprising was deployed was because people upgraded their skills blindly without reading it's effects and what it unlocks. wrong, the respecs were handed out due to a fkd up skilltree and improper labeling of skills. which also came with complaints of der hur I don't know what i'm doing
SILVERBACK 01 BetaMax. CRONOS. 13	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:44:00 - [12] - Quote i cant actually see the problem with respecs?? WHY THE F NOT? just put i timer on it like deleting a character.. maybe 30 days etc.. til you can respec again, maybe 3 months get a grip CCP/ DEVS? CPM? ANSWER?
Stephen1st Dogs of War Gaming DARKSTAR ARMY 2	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:47:00 - [13] - Quote if you want to do new role just start spec in to it. . On outfit it only cost around 3 mili to get to proto if you a logi or heavy it cost even lest to just switch over to the other one. You only need to get core skill once unless you switch over from outfit to lav or dropship . wepon about half milion to spec in to use them in 1.5 mili to get damge max. then made 2 mili to get rest of it max. I haven't look at it. Doesn't take long to start spec in to something elze unless you try to max it. I got a lvl 1 assuit suit just cause I want to try it out it only cost me what under 40k.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 392	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:48:00 - [14] - Quote You are right. In order to placate the dweebs it would have to be like once a year. They like severely hobbling new players and then chasing them away. Who knows whats on the agenda? Respecs haven't done the catastrophic damage that causes retaliatory tears as of yet.
SILVERBACK 01 BetaMax. CRONOS. 13	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:48:00 - [15] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: partial respecs only for missing hulls, frames, turrets, and weapons (racial) and that's it. If you want something new, SKILL UP FOR IT. SO WHAT YOUR SAYING IS.. iv skilled up into heavy hmg because i play best with that.. suddenly a bunch of major nerfs hit and my gameplay is ruined all my skill points are wasted and i have to wait another year to specialize into anything else??? if thats what your saying AIZEN then this game has already failed.,
Knightshade Belladonna Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 399	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:49:00 - [16] - Quote SILVERBACK 01 wrote: i cant actually see the problem with respecs?? WHY THE F NOT? just put i timer on it like deleting a character.. maybe 30 days etc.. til you can respec again, maybe 3 months get a grip CCP/ DEVS? CPM? ANSWER? They could do it on a timer , similar to atrribute point respecs on Eve Online. you got 1 every 6 months or a year I can't remember and I believe you had the option to purchase an early one once with aurum at one point in time ( not 100% sure on the last part). This is not Eve , as ccp has shown with many things already.. if you want your immersion to stay the same, stay in eve. This game needs a crowd other than just the ccp fans from past years , and many do not like the thought of a 7 year grind.. let alone the 25 year grind of eve
aden slayer Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 521	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:49:00 - [17] - Quote Knightshade Belladonna wrote: aden slayer wrote: Knightshade Belladonna wrote: aden slayer wrote: No respecs ever again. Learn to live with your mistakes. who said anything about mistakes lol The reason everyone demanded a respecs when uprising was deployed was because people upgraded their skills blindly without reading it's effects and what it unlocks. wrong, the respecs were handed out due to a fkd up skilltree and improper labeling of skills. which also came with complaints of der hur I don't know what i'm doing Thats right. People didn't know what they were doing because they were excited to get back into the game quickly. BTW what happen to the phase "adapt or die"
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4446	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:51:00 - [18] - Quote aden slayer wrote: BTW what happen to the phase "adapt or die" CCP ninja nerfed it and altered the way it works, so now those who adapted are dieing and those who died are still dead. Hard to adapt when your groundwork is constantly shifting all around you. One day we'll get into official release though, and we may just finally begin having SOME kind of meaning to our decisions. Right now, if you've spent ANY of your SP, you're playing DUST wrong.
Knightshade Belladonna Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 399	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:52:00 - [19] - Quote aden slayer wrote: Knightshade Belladonna wrote: aden slayer wrote: Knightshade Belladonna wrote: aden slayer wrote: No respecs ever again. Learn to live with your mistakes. who said anything about mistakes lol The reason everyone demanded a respecs when uprising was deployed was because people upgraded their skills blindly without reading it's effects and what it unlocks. wrong, the respecs were handed out due to a fkd up skilltree and improper labeling of skills. which also came with complaints of der hur I don't know what i'm doing Thats right. People didn't know what they were doing because they were excited to get back into the game quickly. BTW what happen to the phase "adapt or die" It got over used to the point of having no point
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 948	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:54:00 - [20] - Quote aden slayer wrote: Thats right. People didn't know what they were doing because they were excited to get back into the game quickly. BTW what happen to the phase "adapt or die" Adapt your position to accommodate new players or the game will die. Adapt or die. Still works. I don't think anyone is thinking they should be often or that they need to be free -- you'd pay for your need to respect with isk/sp. We need to stop arguing from an ideological standpoint and be little more pragmatic to the reality we face.

loumanchew Ametat Security Amarr Empire 44	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:54:00 - [21] - Quote aden slayer wrote: No respecs ever again. Learn to live with your mistakes. It's not a mistake if you skill all the way into something figuring that there's got to be something good in the end game to realize the class is just BAD. RESPECS!!!
SILVERBACK 01 BetaMax. CRONOS. 13	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:57:00 - [22] - Quote more like adapt or play BATTLEFIELD 4?
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 392	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:58:00 - [23] - Quote SILVERBACK 01 wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: partial respecs only for missing hulls, frames, turrets, and weapons (racial) and that's it. If you want something new, SKILL UP FOR IT. SO WHAT YOUR SAYING IS.. iv skilled up into heavy hmg because i play best with that.. suddenly a bunch of major nerfs hit and my gameplay is ruined all my skill points are wasted and i have to wait another year to specialize into anything else??? if thats what your saying AIZEN then this game has already failed., I know a bunch of people who quit playing because of AR514. When you take a hit to your Mains playstyle what are you gonna do? Play a slaughterfest where your the main course? Grab a FOTM and become the scum you hate? Its not fun or satisfying and only a fool would waste their time. C'mon, thats why all the newbs are leaving.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 199	Posted - 2013.07.06 15:00:00 - [24] - Quote 10,000,000 ISK Available once every 30 days. SOONGäó Let the mortal neckbeards worry about what is done in a "lifetime".
Dust Project 514 Dust Evo 514 87	Posted - 2013.07.06 15:01:00 - [25] - Quote I don't see why CCP won't allow optional respec. They could charge $10 per respec and make a ton of money from people who keep swtiching around. It also doesn't give anyone an advantage over others because it doesn't give you more SP.
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 949	Posted - 2013.07.06 15:05:00 - [26] - Quote I still favor a timer or cooldown... even with isk AND sp cost for a respec. Pay to reduce timer... no other effect.
Cy Clone1 Ill Omens EoN. 41	Posted - 2013.07.06 15:06:00 - [27] - Quote using tanks got boring so i skilled into every other vehicle type. dropships are fun.
SILVERBACK 01 BetaMax. CRONOS. 15	Posted - 2013.07.06 15:08:00 - [28] - Quote Cy Clone1 wrote: using tanks got boring so i skilled into every other vehicle type. dropships are fun. if you like getting one shotted?
aden slayer Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 521	Posted - 2013.07.06 15:11:00 - [29] - Quote This is probably the last message I will post in this thread. The last time we got a respec was because both CCP and us messed up. But now some of you are asking for another respec is because you messed up not CCP. Dust was designed to make you pay for wrong choices. Drive a tank a in a match with Proto AV users, you will pay for it. Run out of ammo without a nanohive, you will pay for it. Invest your SP in the wrong skill, you will pay for it. So will all of you just man up and admit you screwed up? Therefore my answer is no to another respec. This is dust's logic. Pay for your mistakes.
Poonmunch Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises 29	Posted - 2013.07.06 15:13:00 - [30] - Quote aden slayer wrote: No respecs ever again. Learn to live with your mistakes. Dude ... It IS MY mistake when I spawn with a sniper rifle in a location that I picked and that I know is in the middle of a bunch of reds. It IS MY mistake when I walk across a very open part of a map without looking around for red vehicles zooming toward me. It IS MY mistake when I stand at a drop uplink in full view of reds. It IS MY mistake when I make a nanohive and crouch beside it in full view of reds. It IS MY mistake when I sit in one place for too long when I'm sniping. BUT It IS NOT MY mistake when the game gets changed by someone else in an update or new version. Munch



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