DUST Search - The most unbalanced weapon in this game....

ReGnYuM wrote:

Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:

lolAR's, lolHMG's, lolshooting

People are overlooking the most OP, broken weapon in this game... the grenade...or rather, the ability to spam grenades.

What game in recent history allows someone to carry 3 nades? CoD? They took that perk out after CoD 4 cuz it was OP...IKR, CoD balancing their games, lol.

But here in DUST people get 3 nades. The issue with these nades, the dmg is one thing and I'll get to that later, but it's the amount of nades that people have in their pocket, and how fast people get them back from hives.

1 Core nade does 600 dmg (which is a lie cuz i died to 1 core and i had 750+ armor), but you give people 3 of these nades. That's 1800 dmg on paper. No wonder why people spam them! Bad aiming mechanics? No problem, we'll give you more explosive stuff to spam!

The dmg is too much for the amount of nades that people can carry at once. if someone wants a nade that does 600+ dmg, then they should only be able to carry 1-2 of them, that's a simple way of balancing it.

But it might just be me, and my idiotic idea that this game should be about shooting people, and not about who can spam the most explosives win.

Not even talking about the joke that is contact nades. Hands down, the worst idea in ANY FPS ever. Take those things out. Wanna do a "special" grenade, do one with a shorter fuze.

LoL OP QQ over nades because they're his hard counter

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Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2533	Posted - 2013.07.06 11:21:00 - [1] - Quote lolAR's, lolHMG's, lolshooting People are overlooking the most OP, broken weapon in this game... the grenade...or rather, the ability to spam grenades. What game in recent history allows someone to carry 3 nades? CoD? They took that perk out after CoD 4 cuz it was OP...IKR, CoD balancing their games, lol. But here in DUST people get 3 nades. The issue with these nades, the dmg is one thing and I'll get to that later, but it's the amount of nades that people have in their pocket, and how fast people get them back from hives. 1 Core nade does 600 dmg (which is a lie cuz i died to 1 core and i had 750+ armor), but you give people 3 of these nades. That's 1800 dmg on paper. No wonder why people spam them! Bad aiming mechanics? No problem, we'll give you more explosive stuff to spam! The dmg is too much for the amount of nades that people can carry at once. if someone wants a nade that does 600+ dmg, then they should only be able to carry 1-2 of them, that's a simple way of balancing it. But it might just be me, and my idiotic idea that this game should be about shooting people, and not about who can spam the most explosives win. Not even talking about the joke that is contact nades. Hands down, the worst idea in ANY FPS ever. Take those things out. Wanna do a "special" grenade, do one with a shorter fuze.
Aizen Intiki Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 41	Posted - 2013.07.06 11:24:00 - [2] - Quote AV grenades are the worst, then contact locus...... the rest are fine imo.
Sir Petersen Valhalla Nord 236	Posted - 2013.07.06 11:24:00 - [3] - Quote lol
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 788	Posted - 2013.07.06 11:26:00 - [4] - Quote People cried about the shorter fuses, 3 seconds isnt nearly enough time for the average EVE player to react Jokes aside you are totally right but one minor point, leave AV nades the **** alone Bad enough you have to leave a string of grenades on the ground hoping an LAV will trigger them and not swerve to avoid them while hes trying to run you have but limiting them to a single grenade would truly give them free reign over the map since the damn things can get almost anywhere
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2533	Posted - 2013.07.06 11:28:00 - [5] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: AV grenades are the worst, then contact locus...... the rest are fine imo. yea... 3 core nades in a pocket is fine
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 95	Posted - 2013.07.06 15:40:00 - [6] - Quote Seriously? Who dies to grenades regularly? Like 1 in 50 of my deaths is to grenades (if that). They are the least of CCP's balance problems.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 394	Posted - 2013.07.06 15:44:00 - [7] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: lolAR's, lolHMG's, lolshooting People are overlooking the most OP, broken weapon in this game... the grenade...or rather, the ability to spam grenades. What game in recent history allows someone to carry 3 nades? CoD? They took that perk out after CoD 4 cuz it was OP...IKR, CoD balancing their games, lol. But here in DUST people get 3 nades. The issue with these nades, the dmg is one thing and I'll get to that later, but it's the amount of nades that people have in their pocket, and how fast people get them back from hives. 1 Core nade does 600 dmg (which is a lie cuz i died to 1 core and i had 750+ armor), but you give people 3 of these nades. That's 1800 dmg on paper. No wonder why people spam them! Bad aiming mechanics? No problem, we'll give you more explosive stuff to spam! The dmg is too much for the amount of nades that people can carry at once. if someone wants a nade that does 600+ dmg, then they should only be able to carry 1-2 of them, that's a simple way of balancing it. But it might just be me, and my idiotic idea that this game should be about shooting people, and not about who can spam the most explosives win. Not even talking about the joke that is contact nades. Hands down, the worst idea in ANY FPS ever. Take those things out. Wanna do a "special" grenade, do one with a shorter fuze. dont you run flaylocks?
Jin Robot Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 1268	Posted - 2013.07.06 15:45:00 - [8] - Quote Shion Typhon wrote: Seriously? Who dies to grenades regularly? Like 1 in 50 of my deaths is to grenades (if that). They are the least of CCP's balance problems. You must not engage in CQC if you dont get naded.
Exmaple Core Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 458	Posted - 2013.07.06 16:03:00 - [9] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: AV grenades are the worst, then contact locus...... the rest are fine imo. yea... 3 core nades in a pocket is fine I think the core locus grenades are fine with all the SP you have to sink into them. Why spend 1.55 mill SP if i cant have 3 grenades? besieds, every core grenade you throw is alittle bit of me blowing up your enemys. The more me you have, the more you win. the contacts are bs tho
DoomLead Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 87	Posted - 2013.07.06 16:04:00 - [10] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: Shion Typhon wrote: Seriously? Who dies to grenades regularly? Like 1 in 50 of my deaths is to grenades (if that). They are the least of CCP's balance problems. You must not engage in CQC if you dont get naded. yeah he probably mcc camps

Xender17 Intrepidus XI Omega Commission 207	Posted - 2013.07.06 16:19:00 - [11] - Quote The problem with AV grenades is how easily they take out tanks. Nerf LAVs then nerf AV grenades so HAV's and DS's are given a sort of buff.
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 95	Posted - 2013.07.06 16:23:00 - [12] - Quote DoomLead wrote: Jin Robot wrote: Shion Typhon wrote: Seriously? Who dies to grenades regularly? Like 1 in 50 of my deaths is to grenades (if that). They are the least of CCP's balance problems. You must not engage in CQC if you dont get naded. yeah he probably mcc camps And you are probably a dumbass, I only fight in CQC, never play sniper. You can see them coming, you know when they are going to use them and 99% of players don't cook their grenades at all. Just dodge out of range, hardly difficult unless you really get caught by surprise by an expertly cooked grenade (ie rarely).
SERPENT-Adamapple Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 106	Posted - 2013.07.06 16:29:00 - [13] - Quote You can spam grenades in BF3, so...
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 135	Posted - 2013.07.06 16:30:00 - [14] - Quote There was another game i played not too long ago that had multiple grenades(R3),everything was fine till everyone was rolling a grenadier perk for more than on type and another perk(Demo) to increase blast radius AND daamge making them unavoidable OHK cans.plus sitting on a ammo beacon and just spamming the living kitten out of them down a hallway was bullshit. grenades are fine here,iv seen worse
ReGnYuM TeamPlayers EoN. 360	Posted - 2013.07.06 16:31:00 - [15] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: lolAR's, lolHMG's, lolshooting People are overlooking the most OP, broken weapon in this game... the grenade...or rather, the ability to spam grenades. What game in recent history allows someone to carry 3 nades? CoD? They took that perk out after CoD 4 cuz it was OP...IKR, CoD balancing their games, lol. But here in DUST people get 3 nades. The issue with these nades, the dmg is one thing and I'll get to that later, but it's the amount of nades that people have in their pocket, and how fast people get them back from hives. 1 Core nade does 600 dmg (which is a lie cuz i died to 1 core and i had 750+ armor), but you give people 3 of these nades. That's 1800 dmg on paper. No wonder why people spam them! Bad aiming mechanics? No problem, we'll give you more explosive stuff to spam! The dmg is too much for the amount of nades that people can carry at once. if someone wants a nade that does 600+ dmg, then they should only be able to carry 1-2 of them, that's a simple way of balancing it. But it might just be me, and my idiotic idea that this game should be about shooting people, and not about who can spam the most explosives win. Not even talking about the joke that is contact nades. Hands down, the worst idea in ANY FPS ever. Take those things out. Wanna do a "special" grenade, do one with a shorter fuze. LoL OP QQ over nades because they're his hard counter
Funkmaster Whale 0uter.Heaven 34	Posted - 2013.07.06 16:38:00 - [16] - Quote Grenades are a huge problem in PC because of the lag, bad hit detection, and huge HP pools. Most people in PC are using their best fits and, combined with the lag, makes it REALLY hard to kill people with just bullets, so everyone resorts to AoE weapons like the Flaylock, mass driver, and core + fused grenades. Here's what is currently the most popular and viable PC strategy. Doesn't matter if it's 4 or 5 point map. 1) Capture closest objective to give initial edge. 2) Move into installation and throw uplinks EVERYWHERE. Literally, everyone throws down 5-10 uplinks so your minimap is lit up like Christmas morning with uplinks. 3) Secure installation objectives and proceed to camp them. 4) Throw grenades/Flaylock any opposition that tries to move in. If you die, spawn on one of the dozens of uplinks and throw more grenades.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2538	Posted - 2013.07.06 16:44:00 - [17] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: LoL OP QQ over nades because they're his hard counter as a heavy, there is a counter... to any explosive weapon...so yeeeaaaaa. Can't even say "hey, let me use my caldari heavy since all people do is spam nades"..nope. Or "let me use more armor, since 1 core nade does 600 dmg, 700+ armor is fine!" nope. So...how are heavies to counter?
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2538	Posted - 2013.07.06 16:46:00 - [18] - Quote SERPENT-Adamapple wrote: You can spam grenades in BF3, so... lolbf3 You can spawn with a max of 2 nades in that game, Assuming someone has the perk on, so...
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 607	Posted - 2013.07.06 16:53:00 - [19] - Quote Nah its SL
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 640	Posted - 2013.07.06 16:55:00 - [20] - Quote Try moving.

Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2539	Posted - 2013.07.06 16:58:00 - [21] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Try moving. lol... Amarr heavy movement speed....good one
dazlb72 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 20	Posted - 2013.07.06 17:00:00 - [22] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: lolAR's, lolHMG's, lolshooting What game in recent history allows someone to carry 3 nades? CoD? They took that perk out after CoD 4 cuz it was OP...IKR, CoD balancing their games, lol errmmm.... kill zone 2 and 3, and battlefield
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2539	Posted - 2013.07.06 17:03:00 - [23] - Quote dazlb72 wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: lolAR's, lolHMG's, lolshooting What game in recent history allows someone to carry 3 nades? CoD? They took that perk out after CoD 4 cuz it was OP...IKR, CoD balancing their games, lol errmmm.... kill zone 2 and 3, and battlefield wrong...BF3 allowed a max of 2 nades, WHEN someone in your squad has the perk. Can't talk for KZ, cuz I've never played it but lolKZ3...from what I heard the MP failed hard.
dazlb72 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 20	Posted - 2013.07.06 18:11:00 - [24] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: dazlb72 wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: lolAR's, lolHMG's, lolshooting What game in recent history allows someone to carry 3 nades? CoD? They took that perk out after CoD 4 cuz it was OP...IKR, CoD balancing their games, lol errmmm.... kill zone 2 and 3, and battlefield wrong...BF3 allowed a max of 2 nades, WHEN someone in your squad has the perk. Can't talk for KZ, cuz I've never played it but lolKZ3...from what I heard the MP failed hard. you are right, kill zone 3 was nowhere near as good as kz2, i just got bf 3 from ps + and havent played it much so if i got that wrong i apologise. i never played black ops but my friend said you could carry 3 in that. but i dont know
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2548	Posted - 2013.07.06 18:18:00 - [25] - Quote dazlb72 wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: dazlb72 wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: lolAR's, lolHMG's, lolshooting What game in recent history allows someone to carry 3 nades? CoD? They took that perk out after CoD 4 cuz it was OP...IKR, CoD balancing their games, lol errmmm.... kill zone 2 and 3, and battlefield wrong...BF3 allowed a max of 2 nades, WHEN someone in your squad has the perk. Can't talk for KZ, cuz I've never played it but lolKZ3...from what I heard the MP failed hard. you are right, kill zone 3 was nowhere near as good as kz2, i just got bf 3 from ps + and havent played it much so if i got that wrong i apologise. i never played black ops but my friend said you could carry 3 in that. but i dont know not BO1.... i haven't played BO2, but if it's possible there, at least they have a point system for your load out. "Pick ten"... you can add nades if you want, but it'll cost you a point that can be used for a perk, or w/e. There's nothing like that in DUST. You start off with 3 nades off the bat... assuming you have at least 1 lvl in the nade skill.
Theme For A-Jackal Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1	Posted - 2013.07.06 18:21:00 - [26] - Quote Hush you. Your just qqing because you get killed by nades tough if any thing needs the Nerf bat its free lavs
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 42	Posted - 2013.07.08 22:09:00 - [27] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: lolAR's, lolHMG's, lolshooting People are overlooking the most OP, broken weapon in this game... the grenade...or rather, the ability to spam grenades. What game in recent history allows someone to carry 3 nades? CoD? They took that perk out after CoD 4 cuz it was OP...IKR, CoD balancing their games, lol. But here in DUST people get 3 nades. The issue with these nades, the dmg is one thing and I'll get to that later, but it's the amount of nades that people have in their pocket, and how fast people get them back from hives. 1 Core nade does 600 dmg (which is a lie cuz i died to 1 core and i had 750+ armor), but you give people 3 of these nades. That's 1800 dmg on paper. No wonder why people spam them! Bad aiming mechanics? No problem, we'll give you more explosive stuff to spam! The dmg is too much for the amount of nades that people can carry at once. if someone wants a nade that does 600+ dmg, then they should only be able to carry 1-2 of them, that's a simple way of balancing it. But it might just be me, and my idiotic idea that this game should be about shooting people, and not about who can spam the most explosives win. Not even talking about the joke that is contact nades. Hands down, the worst idea in ANY FPS ever. Take those things out. Wanna do a "special" grenade, do one with a shorter fuze. LoL OP QQ over nades because they're his hard counter Grenades have been somewhat fixed. Their damage drops off as you move radially outward from the center of the blast. You can test this with flux grenades quite easily. It's pretty much fixed, and for good reason.
Sollemnis Aelinos 89th Infantry Division 58	Posted - 2013.07.08 22:10:00 - [28] - Quote god forbid if you play lost planet two multiplayer
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2614	Posted - 2013.07.08 22:13:00 - [29] - Quote Sollemnis Aelinos wrote: god forbid if you play lost planet two multiplayer who plays that crap?
Cosgar ParagonX 2334	Posted - 2013.07.08 22:14:00 - [30] - Quote It's not grenades that are the problem. The grenade indicator is less obvious, making cooking them almost pointless. I don't have much of an issue with contact grenades, but if they're going to stay in the game, I want contact fluxes too.

Sollemnis Aelinos 89th Infantry Division 60	Posted - 2013.07.08 22:27:00 - [31] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Sollemnis Aelinos wrote: god forbid if you play lost planet two multiplayer who plays that crap? its still a fun game when you play co-op but thats just me
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4715	Posted - 2013.07.08 22:27:00 - [32] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Sollemnis Aelinos wrote: god forbid if you play lost planet two multiplayer who plays that crap? People play this crap, sooo....
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2616	Posted - 2013.07.08 22:29:00 - [33] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Sollemnis Aelinos wrote: god forbid if you play lost planet two multiplayer who plays that crap? People play this crap, sooo.... this crap has potential though...
Principus Shmoof Triariian Defective by Design 30	Posted - 2013.07.08 22:31:00 - [34] - Quote It's pretty unfair that one unskilled player with Lai Dai AV can kill a tank by sitting on a hive. It's an exploit. Maybe grenades should have their own hive
Soldiersaint Reaper Galactic 69	Posted - 2013.07.08 22:35:00 - [35] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: lolAR's, lolHMG's, lolshooting People are overlooking the most OP, broken weapon in this game... the grenade...or rather, the ability to spam grenades. What game in recent history allows someone to carry 3 nades? CoD? They took that perk out after CoD 4 cuz it was OP...IKR, CoD balancing their games, lol. But here in DUST people get 3 nades. The issue with these nades, the dmg is one thing and I'll get to that later, but it's the amount of nades that people have in their pocket, and how fast people get them back from hives. 1 Core nade does 600 dmg (which is a lie cuz i died to 1 core and i had 750+ armor), but you give people 3 of these nades. That's 1800 dmg on paper. No wonder why people spam them! Bad aiming mechanics? No problem, we'll give you more explosive stuff to spam! The dmg is too much for the amount of nades that people can carry at once. if someone wants a nade that does 600+ dmg, then they should only be able to carry 1-2 of them, that's a simple way of balancing it. But it might just be me, and my idiotic idea that this game should be about shooting people, and not about who can spam the most explosives win. Not even talking about the joke that is contact nades. Hands down, the worst idea in ANY FPS ever. Take those things out. Wanna do a "special" grenade, do one with a shorter fuze. This is not cod thats why i hate that game. dust actually feels like war because you do what it takes to win and have no limits. if you want stupid trash like that go back to it. do you know there are soldiers who specialize in explosives? like grenades -_-
Cosgar ParagonX 2335	Posted - 2013.07.08 22:54:00 - [36] - Quote Principus Shmoof Triariian wrote: It's pretty unfair that one unskilled player with Lai Dai AV can kill a tank by sitting on a hive. It's an exploit. Maybe grenades should have their own hive I've always wondered this, do fluxes bypass your hardeners and resistance amplifiers?
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 701	Posted - 2013.07.08 23:51:00 - [37] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Try moving. lol... Amarr heavy movement speed....good one Then you can't really go complaining about grenades then can you?
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 410	Posted - 2013.07.08 23:59:00 - [38] - Quote SERPENT-Adamapple wrote: You can spam grenades in BF3, so... you could spam grenades in MAG too... 1.Gas nades 2.Bunker 3.???? 4.Profit!
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 1132	Posted - 2013.07.09 00:02:00 - [39] - Quote Principus Shmoof Triariian wrote: It's pretty unfair that one unskilled player with Lai Dai AV can kill a tank by sitting on a hive. It's an exploit. Maybe grenades should have their own hive Exploit = Someone doing something that wasn't intended. Nanohives regenerating grenades = 100% intended
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2617	Posted - 2013.07.09 00:12:00 - [40] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: This is not cod thats why i hate that game. dust actually feels like war because you do what it takes to win and have no limits. if you want stupid trash like that go back to it. do you know there are soldiers who specialize in explosives? like grenades -_- I like how idiots are quick to say "go back to CoD"...it's funny when a **** game like CoD is more balanced than this game. Btw, "specialized in explosives"??? lol?... you get 3 nades with 1 skill lvl of grenades...that's specialization for you?.... gg



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