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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:18:00 -
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One thing about armor plating has been bugging me since I first started playing this game last April:
Why do the plates reduce your movement speed?
I mean, as an example, I can fit 3 sets of 1600mm armor plating to an Amarr Battleship in EVE, and it won't make me go any slower than I would without them.
What does change is my acceleration, such that it takes me a lot longer to reach that same top speed.
So why don't Armor Plates work the same way in Dust? Instead of having speed penalties leveled against the suit, why not reduce the percentages, and then apply them against the acceleration values that have been in place since the "strafe nerf" last year?
If you combine that with my earlier thread proposing that Shield Extenders increase your Scan Profile and make you easier to detect, you end up with the plating giving you a slight reduction to how quickly you can reach your top speed in any direction, in exchange for giving no penalty to how easy you are to see on radar or pick up with an Active Scanner. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1805
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:21:00 -
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Logic.
I see logic here.
CCP, give him a medal and implement this idea! |
Thor McStrut
Reckoners
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:43:00 -
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Unfortunately your idea has too much merit. It will be quickly discarded in favor of keeping the same broken balance.
Between your idea and the idea of having them effect Stamina instead, I'm not sure why CCP aren't responding to the issues with Armor tanking. |
Delenne Arran
Ivory Hounds
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Posted - 2013.07.05 21:50:00 -
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I believe the reason it only slows the acceleration of your ships, but not the top speed is because on a ship, it only adds mass, not weight. Conveniently, the formula for acceleration is "force/mass=acceleration". A merc, however, is affected by the additional mass, and the weight that comes with it, since he's affected by the planet's gravity. Imagine trying to run your top speed with a 50lb weight vest on.
Although, that gives me an idea. Perhaps there could be a variety of plates could increase the rate your stamina drops while sprinting, rather than a flat speed decrease. |
Karl Koekwaus
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.05 22:07:00 -
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They also cause your ship to be less agile, put 3x 1600mm on a abaddon and you align almost as slow as a carrier without using the MWD trick 3. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2013.07.05 22:26:00 -
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Delenne Arran wrote:I believe the reason it only slows the acceleration of your ships, but not the top speed is because on a ship, it only adds mass, not weight. Conveniently, the formula for acceleration is "force/mass=acceleration". A merc, however, is affected by the additional mass, and the weight that comes with it, since he's affected by the planet's gravity. Imagine trying to run your top speed with a 50lb weight vest on.
Although, that gives me an idea. Perhaps there could be a variety of plates could increase the rate your stamina drops while sprinting, rather than a flat speed decrease.
Mass and weight are the same thing basically. Weight is just mass in a gravity well.
II think you're trying to imply something about drag perhaps.
Having plates affect acceleration rather than speed might be interesting, but it also might feel very strange. The mechanics of moving a dropsuit in dust is nothing like that of moving a spaceship in Eve. |
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