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Alina Heart
DIOS EX. Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.07.05 18:22:00 -
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We knew you'd straighten it all out |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
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Posted - 2013.07.05 18:25:00 -
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yep! thanks for resolving it so quickly, as well as so much in the player's favor. It should help people get a jump on maxing out their core skills so they are ready for new content. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.05 18:26:00 -
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Thanks for not waiting until I'm home from vacation to start triple sp week CCP |
Bane R3AP
Reap Mercenary Corp
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Posted - 2013.07.05 18:55:00 -
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Ditto on thanks |
jamstar saa187
Imperial Populicide Legion Alpha Wolf Pack
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:43:00 -
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your traitors, all of you, traitors! the forum is for CCP bashing only!
but seriously, nice going on the fix, even if i wasn't one of those that managed to benefit from the reset fully, it's nice that i can go and do some serious leveling up this weekend |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:47:00 -
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I capped out yester day so since my cap also got reset im gonna get 570000 sp twice. I also have a booster on so thats 1,710,000 sp |
Dengru
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:56:00 -
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Is this a joke? |
hooc roht
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.07.05 21:57:00 -
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Dengru wrote:Is this a joke?
Yeah...what is everyone talking about? |
First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.05 22:12:00 -
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I wasn't sure they would, or even if they could.
But if they did I'm grateful. |
Zsiga What
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.05 22:17:00 -
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People who capped on Wednesday have no right to be angry, ccp gave us no warning that they were resetting the cap so even if you had the full cap yesterday not many grinded sp to reach it. So the complaint that they are missing out and only got 4x instead of 6x is debunked when you consider less that 1% of the player base got 6x.
If it weren't for the people who capped on Wednesday and qq'd yesterday , no one would have any extra sp. So stop your entitlement attitude because you have no one to thank but yourself for your mistake/benefit from the whole issue. Ccp owned up and fixed it, now man up and be thankful because you are better off than before.
Would you have rather had ccp increase your cap by 380,000 today or have a new cap of 570,000 today?
Consider yourself lucky.
"Do you even Dust bro?" -TeamPlayers |
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Dengru
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.05 22:22:00 -
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Noc Tempre
Internal Error. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.05 22:35:00 -
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Zsiga What wrote:People who capped on Wednesday have no right to be angry, ccp gave us no warning that they were resetting the cap so even if you had the full cap yesterday not many grinded sp to reach it. So the complaint that they are missing out and only got 4x instead of 6x is debunked when you consider less that 1% of the player base got 6x.
If it weren't for the people who capped on Wednesday and qq'd yesterday , no one would have any extra sp. So stop your entitlement attitude because you have no one to thank but yourself for your mistake/benefit from the whole issue. Ccp owned up and fixed it, now man up and be thankful because you are better off than before.
Would you have rather had ccp increase your cap by 380,000 today or have a new cap of 570,000 today?
Consider yourself lucky.
"Do you even Dust bro?" -TeamPlayers
This is fail logic. The complaint is rooted in equal treatment, not a need for 6x SP. Your rebuttal is "life isn't fair" which while true, is rarely embraced within the video game "lives". |
Zsiga What
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.05 22:44:00 -
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Ok so everyone in dust in order to be fair to the people who capped early need to calculate how many skill points they got yesterday and subtract it from 570,000 and stop playing when you reach that point. Oh, and all of those who capped on Wednesday need to stop playing when you have 190,000sp remaining.
The "logic" of complaining when you have more sp available because of a mistake than you would have if everything would have worked how it was intended in itself is "fail logic" |
Altina McAlterson
Not Guilty EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.05 22:48:00 -
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Zsiga What wrote:Ok so everyone in dust in order to be fair to the people who capped early need to calculate how many skill points they got yesterday and subtract it from 570,000 and stop playing when you reach that point. Oh, and all of those who capped on Wednesday need to stop playing when you have 190,000sp remaining.
The "logic" of complaining when you have more sp available because of a mistake than you would have if everything would have worked how it was intended in itself is "fail logic" People who capped on Wednesday have less sp than those that waited until Thursday from this whole thing. Had it worked as intended everyone would have been equal. Whatever you're going on about isn't even "fail logic" as much as it is nonsense honestly. |
Zsiga What
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.05 22:51:00 -
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While you are talking about fairness, is it fair that I work on Wednesday and couldn't reach the one day cap of 190k? Should ccp have waited to start the 3x weekend until Sunday so that I could have reached my cap Saturday?
No solution to this problem would have been equal or fair to everyone, and ccp chose the only solution that was fair to the greatest majority. |
Zsiga What
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.05 22:54:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:Zsiga What wrote:Ok so everyone in dust in order to be fair to the people who capped early need to calculate how many skill points they got yesterday and subtract it from 570,000 and stop playing when you reach that point. Oh, and all of those who capped on Wednesday need to stop playing when you have 190,000sp remaining.
The "logic" of complaining when you have more sp available because of a mistake than you would have if everything would have worked how it was intended in itself is "fail logic" People who capped on Wednesday have less sp than those that waited until Thursday from this whole thing. Had it worked as intended everyone would have been equal. Whatever you're going on about isn't even "fail logic" as much as it is nonsense honestly. Well honestly tell me what everyone is complaining about since they got what was intended? Give me a reasonable solution that ccp could have performed in 24h? Because it wasn't feasible for them to count how much everyone grinded on Wednesday and add that to their cap to make things fair. Give me a break. |
Dengru
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.05 22:56:00 -
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Zsiga What wrote:While you are talking about fairness, is it fair that I work on Wednesday and couldn't reach the one day cap of 190k? Should ccp have waited to start the 3x weekend until Sunday so that I could have reached my cap Saturday?
No solution to this problem would have been equal or fair to everyone, and ccp chose the only solution that was fair to the greatest majority.
Everything you are saying is wrong and irrelevant. Learn more about the situation to improve your posting. So mich hypothetical scenarios, jesus. CCP was speciffically asked if there was a benefit to hitting the cap and said that the amount earned would simply be taken from the total 500k. Maybes some people's flippant attitudes is from thinking greed backfired, but I can hardly understand that given how many people I've seen n the mcc today and ambush grinding out the next 500k.
I did nothing wrong, and the supposed solution to the problem I and others encountered yesterday is a ridiculous and unfair.
I'm hardly saying rip away the additional 500k people have gained today from the MCC and pubstomping. |
Zsiga What
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.05 23:04:00 -
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Dengru wrote:Zsiga What wrote:While you are talking about fairness, is it fair that I work on Wednesday and couldn't reach the one day cap of 190k? Should ccp have waited to start the 3x weekend until Sunday so that I could have reached my cap Saturday?
No solution to this problem would have been equal or fair to everyone, and ccp chose the only solution that was fair to the greatest majority. Everything you are saying is wrong and irrelevant. Learn more about the situation to improve your posting. So mich hypothetical scenarios, jesus. CCP was speciffically asked if there was a benefit to hitting the cap and said that the amount earned would simply be taken from the total 500k. Maybes some people's flippant attitudes is from thinking greed backfired, but I can hardly understand that given how many people I've seen n the mcc today and ambush grinding out the next 500k. I did nothing wrong, and the supposed solution to the problem I and others encountered yesterday is a ridiculous and unfair. I'm hardly saying rip away the additional 500k people have gained today from the MCC and pubstomping. I'm still waiting in your solution that could have been implemented in 24 hours. One guy at ccp forgot to press a button to reset everyone's cap during the down time on July 4th. So the solution: press that button during the down time on July 5th. Problem solved, yes you didn't do anything wrong but you weren't hurt by anything they did either. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
554
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Posted - 2013.07.05 23:10:00 -
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I haven't logged in yet, but will the 3x SP that I had left yesterday still be there + the extra 3x boost? (I had something like 300k left at DT).
Reason I ask is because whoever grinded all that booster ISK yesterday, basically gets another one today. So say they didn't play Wednesday at all and got the full bonus, then they grinded on Thursday and capped out. At this point they gained 570k SP. Now when they come back on today they will have another 570k SP at their disposal. Whereas somebody like me who didn't cap yesterday, would be out all that SP that I didn't grind and would only walk away with 570k + whatever I managed to get while playing Thursday. |
Altina McAlterson
Not Guilty EoN.
608
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Posted - 2013.07.05 23:12:00 -
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Zsiga What wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Zsiga What wrote:Ok so everyone in dust in order to be fair to the people who capped early need to calculate how many skill points they got yesterday and subtract it from 570,000 and stop playing when you reach that point. Oh, and all of those who capped on Wednesday need to stop playing when you have 190,000sp remaining.
The "logic" of complaining when you have more sp available because of a mistake than you would have if everything would have worked how it was intended in itself is "fail logic" People who capped on Wednesday have less sp than those that waited until Thursday from this whole thing. Had it worked as intended everyone would have been equal. Whatever you're going on about isn't even "fail logic" as much as it is nonsense honestly. Well honestly tell me what everyone is complaining about since they got what was intended? Give me a reasonable solution that ccp could have performed in 24h? Because it wasn't feasible for them to count how much everyone grinded on Wednesday and add that to their cap to make things fair. Give me a break. First off I never said anything about "fairness" nor did I "complain." Your posts made it sound like you thought people that capped on Wednesday were ahead of those that waited and I was just pointing out that is an incorrect statement. Sorry if I misunderstood what you were trying to say.
And for the record what CCP was fair. "Fair" doesn't mean "equal". Fair mean honest and impartial and free from bias or self-interest. So what CCP did was absolutely fair. Unfortunately things are almost never equal and some players came out ahead and some didn't. |
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Zsiga What
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.05 23:18:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:I haven't logged in yet, but will the 3x SP that I had left yesterday still be there + the extra 3x boost? (I had something like 300k left at DT).
Reason I ask is because whoever grinded all that booster ISK yesterday, basically gets another one today. So say they didn't play Wednesday at all and got the full bonus, then they grinded on Thursday and capped out. At this point they gained 570k SP. Now when they come back on today they will have another 570k SP at their disposal. Whereas somebody like me who didn't cap yesterday, would be out all that SP that I didn't grind and would only walk away with 570k + whatever I managed to get while playing Thursday. I get the complaint that Joe gets more sp than you because he grinded Thursday instead of Wednesday, but that in itself is a hypothetical situation. Bring me a fair feasible solution to this mistake, that ccp apologized for and remedied within 24hours, and then I'll understand your complaint. Otherwise they made the best decision they could and as fast as they could and I respect them for that. |
Zsiga What
TeamPlayers EoN.
12
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Posted - 2013.07.05 23:31:00 -
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@Altina McAlterson I think you and I agree but I just can't explain myself well enough. I think gamers and people in general have this sense of entitlement that really rubs me wrong. Ccp owes us NOTHING, we are playing their FREE game! You weren't complaining I was just sick of everyone who is. Seriously in this situation they need to HTFU. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
555
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Posted - 2013.07.06 00:23:00 -
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Zsiga What wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:I haven't logged in yet, but will the 3x SP that I had left yesterday still be there + the extra 3x boost? (I had something like 300k left at DT).
Reason I ask is because whoever grinded all that booster ISK yesterday, basically gets another one today. So say they didn't play Wednesday at all and got the full bonus, then they grinded on Thursday and capped out. At this point they gained 570k SP. Now when they come back on today they will have another 570k SP at their disposal. Whereas somebody like me who didn't cap yesterday, would be out all that SP that I didn't grind and would only walk away with 570k + whatever I managed to get while playing Thursday. I get the complaint that Joe gets more sp than you because he grinded Thursday instead of Wednesday, but that in itself is a hypothetical situation. Bring me a fair feasible solution to this mistake, that ccp apologized for and remedied within 24hours, and then I'll understand your complaint. Otherwise they made the best decision they could and as fast as they could and I respect them for that.
Yeah it is mathematically impossible to apply the same formula to both Wednesday cappers and Thursday cappers to create an even and balanced outcome. And what CCP chose does yield the higher possible SP outcome for those who capped on Wednesday (vs giving everybody an additional 380k on their cap).
Granted for a quick lube job they chose pretty well, but obviously the ultimate solution would be to give the Wednesday cappers an additional 380k, while giving the Thursday cappers nothing.
There has got to be an easy way for them to identify the amount of SP people get and filter accordingly. It's a simple if statement.
if (date >= July 3rd && date <= July 10th && player earned SP > 0) // DT times would be exact of course { player earned SP - player earned SP }
Wholah, anything anybody earned, regardless or how much or how little or active booster effect, would be reset to 0. Then they simply make the cap 570k and everybody is 100% equal. |
Zsiga What
TeamPlayers EoN.
12
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Posted - 2013.07.06 00:56:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Granted for a quick lube job they chose pretty well, but obviously the ultimate solution would be to give the Wednesday cappers an additional 380k, while giving the Thursday cappers nothing. .
LMAO sometimes the quick lube job is messy, buts it usually yields acceptable results in 15minutes or less... And that is what we have here. |
Mobias Wyvern
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.06 00:56:00 -
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Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this.........
Planetside 2
Coming to PS4 this year
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