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Shotty GoBang
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Posted - 2013.07.06 01:23:00 -
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This is interesting stuff, Cipher. +1.
Please keep us posted on the results of your testing. A hitbox increase of 20-40% is something we scouts should take into account.
If your observations are correct, speed tanking in Uprising 1.2 would effectively handicap a Scout, right?
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Shotty GoBang
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Posted - 2013.07.08 21:03:00 -
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Cipher,
I'm inclined to think that your theory is valid. My 10.73 proto suit seems easier to hit in full sprint than my 8.01 advanced suit. I can't come up with any explanation for this. Would you mind detailing for us your testing methods and evidence?
Thanks,
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Shotty GoBang
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Posted - 2013.07.08 22:49:00 -
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mollerz wrote:A microwarp drive in eve adds to your signature because your ship is accelerating so fast it increases your mass, thus signature, and thus easier to hit you.
@Cipher: Neat testing method . Assuming you are correct, do you think there's an upper-bound to the size of a player's hitbox? In other words, does hitbox size correlate directly with speed, or does hitbox size eventually reach a maximum value (such that more speed does not yield more penalty)? I don't know how you'd test that, but it'd be good to know if that 2nd KinCat is hurting more than helping.
@Mollerz: Do you think CPM would be willing/able to chime in on this observation? If Cipher is correct, then folks who are stacking KinCats may be doing themselves more harm than good.
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Shotty GoBang
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Posted - 2013.07.08 23:14:00 -
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Spec Ops Cipher wrote:I assumed it would have a max increase and it would be at full sprint.
So you suspect a static penalty ... for example: Hitbox (stationary) = x Hitbox (walking) = x + 10% Hitbox (sprinting) = x + 40%
Rather than a progressive penalty ... for example: Hitbox (stationary) = x Hitbox (walking) = x + 10% Hitbox (sprinting @ 6 m/s) = x + 15% Hitbox (sprinting @ 7 m/s) = x + 20% Hitbox (sprinting @ 8 m/s) = x + 25% Hitbox (sprinting @ 9 m/s) = x + 30%
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Shotty GoBang
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Posted - 2013.07.09 13:40:00 -
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Spec Ops Cipher wrote: The players hitbox is larger than the area it is trying to access by sprinting, but not by walking. Ergo the players model is bigger when sprinting.
Therefore adaptation to 1.2 demands adherence to counter-intuitive commandments:
- I. Thou shalt not employ high-speed evasives.
- II. Thou shalt not attempt high-speed combat maneuvers.
- III. Thou shalt not stack KinCats.
- IV. Thou shalt not mario HMG fatties.
- V. Thou shalt not jump whilst under fire.
- VI. Thou shalt not run for cover (walking to cover is OK, though).
- VII. Thou shalt not sprint in CQB.
- VIII. Thou shalt not sprint in or through confined spaces.
- IX. Thou shalt not envy thy neighbor's sprint speed.
- X. Thou shalt not squander SP on biotics.
In theory, at least.
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Posted - 2013.07.21 00:32:00 -
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Nack Jicholson wrote:I hit a sprinting scout with a sniper rifle earlier, and by "hit" I mean I completely missed by 5 feet but still killed him. PC excluded, I haven't played Skirmish since Uprising 1.1 for this exact reason. Scouts used to be tough targets to snipe. |
Shotty GoBang
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Posted - 2013.07.21 01:11:00 -
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In related news:
Death Taxi Driver speculates that his hitbox is bigger than the LAV he's driving. Suggest the same may apply to Scouts: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=94645&find=unread
Death Taxi Driver reports being hit by turret fire w/out Line of Sight while on the move: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=94426&find=unread
Cmdr Wang says "This is by design. Drivers are taking damage as intended." https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=34746&p=3
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Shotty GoBang
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Posted - 2013.07.21 04:05:00 -
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Mac Dac wrote: ps. im surprised Maken Tosh The "Ninja Knifer" hasnt commented yet or Iron Wolf Saber he normally sees every post in the forums.
Both are here (sister thread): https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1081809#post1081809
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Shotty GoBang
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Posted - 2013.08.03 14:32:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:I need to know.... that this isn't true. Or at least, it shouldn't be, and won't be soon. This will almost certainly mean scout is pointless. Hey Duncan!
Our working theory has been updated. See here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=95939&find=unread
- Shotty GoBang
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