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Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2013.07.06 22:53:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Actually the CPM hasn't got a clue of what is fully in 1.3 as the patch notes are not presented yet, some features here and there but most of them were said to be having blogs being made for those features so CPM certainly feels it is much better if it came from a blue poster and not a CPM tag after all some people regard the CPM as idiots so spilling the beans on 1.3 wouldn't be that helpful at all to have CPM as PR at that point. People Think the CPM are idiots well... At least Hans, Laurent, and (kinda) Nova Knife, and Kain seem like represntitives not CCP's mouthpeice Well I think it is important to keep you guys as informed as possible without getting into trouble. Most of the questions you guys ask on the forums daily have already been asked by the CPM to CCP and there are good bit still unanswered because people responsible are busy or not there to be asked at the moment.
That really sux Iron Wolf... Don't you find that disheartening? |
Killar-12
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
15
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Posted - 2013.07.06 22:53:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Actually the CPM hasn't got a clue of what is fully in 1.3 as the patch notes are not presented yet, some features here and there but most of them were said to be having blogs being made for those features so CPM certainly feels it is much better if it came from a blue poster and not a CPM tag after all some people regard the CPM as idiots so spilling the beans on 1.3 wouldn't be that helpful at all to have CPM as PR at that point. People Think the CPM are idiots well... At least Hans, Laurent, and (kinda) Nova Knife, and Kain seem like represntitives not CCP's mouthpeice Well I think it is important to keep you guys as informed as possible without getting into trouble. Most of the questions you guys ask on the forums daily have already been asked by the CPM to CCP and there are good bit still unanswered because people responsible are busy or not there to be asked at the moment. I know... just this kind of gets old waiting, but doesn't CCP have a community rep? |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2142
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Posted - 2013.07.06 22:56:00 -
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oso tiburon wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Jin Robot wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Well timestamps in chat because they are fun and a really large dev blog on Tuesday about some changes coming before 1.3... but I guess you could call those changes as part of 1.3... I don't know... that is up to you... but yea... dev blog on Tuesday about STUFF.
That is from Team True Grit. "changes" sends my mind to all kinds of places. IWS says we should be "concerned" about them? Is my foil hat sparkling? Well... I wouldn't be concerned about them... unless you are a corporation in Planetary Conquest that is sitting on a bunch of unattacked districts just making money... then maybe be concerned. how about maybe idk fix the heavys as we are again getting mowed down by flaylocks and massdrivers and still no variants to switch to .. oh wait we got a useless sp sink in the commando .. awesome WHY IS IT ASSULTS AND MEDIUM GUYS HAVE 500 DIFFERENT OPTIONS BUT WE STILL ONLY HAVE 1 SUIT 2 GUNS THAT ARE NOW COMPLTELY OUT CLASSED AND YOU GUYS KEEP GIVING ALL THE OTHER CLASSES GOODIES . just sayin
Faith in humanity, I can feel it slipping away... |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
201
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Posted - 2013.07.06 22:57:00 -
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"Inconsistency is our consistency."
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5666
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Posted - 2013.07.06 22:59:00 -
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Xero The Mishima wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Actually the CPM hasn't got a clue of what is fully in 1.3 as the patch notes are not presented yet, some features here and there but most of them were said to be having blogs being made for those features so CPM certainly feels it is much better if it came from a blue poster and not a CPM tag after all some people regard the CPM as idiots so spilling the beans on 1.3 wouldn't be that helpful at all to have CPM as PR at that point. People Think the CPM are idiots well... At least Hans, Laurent, and (kinda) Nova Knife, and Kain seem like represntitives not CCP's mouthpeice Well I think it is important to keep you guys as informed as possible without getting into trouble. Most of the questions you guys ask on the forums daily have already been asked by the CPM to CCP and there are good bit still unanswered because people responsible are busy or not there to be asked at the moment. That really sux Iron Wolf... Don't you find that disheartening?
Well not recently CCP has gotten better with the information flow back and forth and between them and you guys. Just there are a few developers CPM would love to talk to and pick their thinking process or reasoning as to why certain things the way they are, I mean I am surprised as how busy CCP Wolfman is with many things you guys touch in both controllers and new things he's able to spare time to both the forums and the CPM about things. There are quite a bit of good coming down the pipe that I would not argue with and its solid proof CCP is listening to players.
The next few months is going to be a different story it is just odd seeing it as CPM and get to see these things ahead of time before its implemented. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5666
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Posted - 2013.07.06 23:00:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Actually the CPM hasn't got a clue of what is fully in 1.3 as the patch notes are not presented yet, some features here and there but most of them were said to be having blogs being made for those features so CPM certainly feels it is much better if it came from a blue poster and not a CPM tag after all some people regard the CPM as idiots so spilling the beans on 1.3 wouldn't be that helpful at all to have CPM as PR at that point. People Think the CPM are idiots well... At least Hans, Laurent, and (kinda) Nova Knife, and Kain seem like represntitives not CCP's mouthpeice Well I think it is important to keep you guys as informed as possible without getting into trouble. Most of the questions you guys ask on the forums daily have already been asked by the CPM to CCP and there are good bit still unanswered because people responsible are busy or not there to be asked at the moment. I know... just this kind of gets old waiting, but doesn't CCP have a community rep?
That would be CCP Mintchip, she's been announcing things that the CPM knows about allowing some freedom to speak about it. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
148
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Posted - 2013.07.07 00:31:00 -
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I thought the whole point of holding back information was because you are not sure what will and what won't make it in and you don't want to say something is in and then something happen and its not. But if 1.3 is content locked, and the mini-update next week is content locked, why is information still being held back. Whats in will be in.
Please don't tell me you are holding it back for marketing reasons, as to release it at just the right time to create the right amount of hype that won't die down too early. Come on now, the current market for Dust 514 isn't that large, and the only people who would hear this announcement are people who frequent these forums. Try as we may, we're not going anywhere. |
GET ATMESON
NEW AGE EMPIRE The Family Syndicate
16
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Posted - 2013.07.07 00:36:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Well timestamps in chat because they are fun and a really large dev blog on Tuesday about some changes coming before 1.3... but I guess you could call those changes as part of 1.3... I don't know... that is up to you... but yea... dev blog on Tuesday about STUFF.
That is from Team True Grit.
*prays for the first time* *crosses fingers* Will there be a update on a ETA on a real new heavy suit in the blog
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J3f3r20n Gh057
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
18
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Posted - 2013.07.07 01:14:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Well timestamps in chat because they are fun and a really large dev blog on Tuesday about some changes coming before 1.3... but I guess you could call those changes as part of 1.3... I don't know... that is up to you... but yea... dev blog on Tuesday about STUFF.
That is from Team True Grit. Just some feedback.. It seems both CCP and the CPM are well aware of what will be in both patch 1.3 and in this mini patch next week, in honest I can't see why that information is being held back purposely from the community. CCP has stated they want to be more open in communicating with the player base yet seems to fail to grasp what doing that means. Releasing vague dev blogs and the day before the patch is hardly great communication. Furthermore it seems like each Dust team at CCP has no idea what the other teams are doing and is regularly used as an excuse to not include full patch notes before a patch. All we are asking for is that when the CCP dev teams submit their patch to sony they also compile patch notes and submit those to one member of your team (this would be a great job for mintchip) who would then turn each teams individual patch notes into a complete list of upcoming changes. Remember in dust our SP choices are permanent and with CCP leaving it's player base deep in the dark about upcoming changes it makes it very hard for us to develop our personal road map for our characters. Please be more forth coming with information about future changes that the dev team already knows is coming and stop with the elite club of only telling the CPM members about your plans. This will also provide the community a chance to provide feedback on the upcoming patch and point out any mistakes before they happen (Remember when CCP forgot they removed the 10% damage buff from weaponry and because of that double nerfed the HMG? Or when you decided to buff the HP on LAVs?). Please communicate with us. This community is full of people who are experience beta testers, who are able to provide excellent feedback and is an absolutly FREE resource for CCP to tap into. Help us help you.
^ How can i be concerned about something that i don't know nothing? Why hide this kind of info from us, the players?..i have to plan my moves and stuff... |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5679
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Posted - 2013.07.07 01:29:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:I thought the whole point of holding back information was because you are not sure what will and what won't make it in and you don't want to say something is in and then something happen and its not. But if 1.3 is content locked, and the mini-update next week is content locked, why is information still being held back. Whats in will be in.
Please don't tell me you are holding it back for marketing reasons, as to release it at just the right time to create the right amount of hype that won't die down too early. Come on now, the current market for Dust 514 isn't that large, and the only people who would hear this announcement are people who frequent these forums. Try as we may, we're not going anywhere.
and that part is true, I could read the 1.3 notes today and by the time deployment rolls around quite a few things could get canceled or pulled. Has little to do with marketing and more with quality of product then setting expectations. |
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RINON114
B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance
226
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Posted - 2013.07.07 01:43:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:I thought the whole point of holding back information was because you are not sure what will and what won't make it in and you don't want to say something is in and then something happen and its not. But if 1.3 is content locked, and the mini-update next week is content locked, why is information still being held back. Whats in will be in.
Please don't tell me you are holding it back for marketing reasons, as to release it at just the right time to create the right amount of hype that won't die down too early. Come on now, the current market for Dust 514 isn't that large, and the only people who would hear this announcement are people who frequent these forums. Try as we may, we're not going anywhere. and that part is true, I could read the 1.3 notes today and by the time deployment rolls around quite a few things could get canceled or pulled. Has little to do with marketing and more with quality of product then setting expectations. I have to back you up here Iron Wolf, I'm a little tired of reading people ***** and moan about how the CPM is not doing their job or that CCP needs to tell us everything right now! We already know a great deal about what's coming in the future, we just don't know when. We know a great deal more about Dust's future than we know about any other game that is being produced right now. Look at Titanfall, we know a rough outline of what it will be, but nothing else. We do know that Dust will get a huge influx of content for the next few months as well as over the coming years.
Stop being so impatient, I know it's hard but being a douche to the CPM (our representatives) isn't helping anything. Ask questions and hope you get an answer, don't expect one. |
Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
725
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Posted - 2013.07.07 03:33:00 -
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That would be because content locked means only that no more changes are going to be added to that release, and that it is currently being tested prior to release. There's no guarantee that some of the features won't fail PSN testing and have to be pulled. Then they'd look silly announcing things that won't get deployed.
Aero Yassavi wrote:I thought the whole point of holding back information was because you are not sure what will and what won't make it in and you don't want to say something is in and then something happen and its not. But if 1.3 is content locked, and the mini-update next week is content locked, why is information still being held back. Whats in will be in.
Please don't tell me you are holding it back for marketing reasons, as to release it at just the right time to create the right amount of hype that won't die down too early. Come on now, the current market for Dust 514 isn't that large, and the only people who would hear this announcement are people who frequent these forums. Try as we may, we're not going anywhere.
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Alucard Fang
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
45
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Posted - 2013.07.07 03:47:00 -
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Don't know why people are expecting a bunch of new content especially something as big as PvE. I think 1.3 will be just like 1.2, improving what's here, which should be CCP's #1 priority anyways. There may be new content as in a new suit, new weapons, new modules, new maps, I hope, and maybe a new mode, or Skirmish 3.0, but nothing huge. And CCP, not sure which Dev, said PvE is coming, but not super soon. I think we can expect major new content releases with each new version and not these point releases, so maybe PvE will come in 2.0, and if CCP keeps coming out with these updates every month, 2.0 should come out in maybe March, assuming everything goes well. |
STABBEY
WarRavens League of Infamy
34
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Posted - 2013.07.07 12:58:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Small stuff. You should be a bit more concerned about what is coming out next week though.
Does this guy actualy do anything usefull? CPM? I've seen nothing but babble. |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
532
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Posted - 2013.07.07 13:35:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:I thought the whole point of holding back information was because you are not sure what will and what won't make it in and you don't want to say something is in and then something happen and its not. But if 1.3 is content locked, and the mini-update next week is content locked, why is information still being held back. Whats in will be in.
Please don't tell me you are holding it back for marketing reasons, as to release it at just the right time to create the right amount of hype that won't die down too early. Come on now, the current market for Dust 514 isn't that large, and the only people who would hear this announcement are people who frequent these forums. Try as we may, we're not going anywhere. and that part is true, I could read the 1.3 notes today and by the time deployment rolls around quite a few things could get canceled or pulled. Has little to do with marketing and more with quality of product then setting expectations. Why not just releasing preliminary patch notes with a short comment behind it like "doing well" or "high chance of delay". Make by-weekly updates and just strike an item as soon as it clear that it won't make it into the update.
Sure, people would moan at first, after seeing more than half of the items getting removed over time, but it gives a much better view on what's beeing done.
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
319
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Posted - 2013.07.07 13:38:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:I thought the whole point of holding back information was because you are not sure what will and what won't make it in and you don't want to say something is in and then something happen and its not. But if 1.3 is content locked, and the mini-update next week is content locked, why is information still being held back. Whats in will be in.
Please don't tell me you are holding it back for marketing reasons, as to release it at just the right time to create the right amount of hype that won't die down too early. Come on now, the current market for Dust 514 isn't that large, and the only people who would hear this announcement are people who frequent these forums. Try as we may, we're not going anywhere. and that part is true, I could read the 1.3 notes today and by the time deployment rolls around quite a few things could get canceled or pulled. Has little to do with marketing and more with quality of product then setting expectations.
I have no expectations, only hopes and misguided faith placed in CCP. |
Remm Duchax
ParagonX
54
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Posted - 2013.07.07 13:49:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Well timestamps in chat because they are fun and a really large dev blog on Tuesday about some changes coming before 1.3... but I guess you could call those changes as part of 1.3... I don't know... that is up to you... but yea... dev blog on Tuesday about STUFF.
That is from Team True Grit. Just some feedback.. It seems both CCP and the CPM are well aware of what will be in both patch 1.3 and in this mini patch next week, in honest I can't see why that information is being held back purposely from the community. CCP has stated they want to be more open in communicating with the player base yet seems to fail to grasp what doing that means. Releasing vague dev blogs and the day before the patch is hardly great communication. Furthermore it seems like each Dust team at CCP has no idea what the other teams are doing and is regularly used as an excuse to not include full patch notes before a patch. All we are asking for is that when the CCP dev teams submit their patch to sony they also compile patch notes and submit those to one member of your team (this would be a great job for mintchip) who would then turn each teams individual patch notes into a complete list of upcoming changes. Remember in dust our SP choices are permanent and with CCP leaving it's player base deep in the dark about upcoming changes it makes it very hard for us to develop our personal road map for our characters. Please be more forth coming with information about future changes that the dev team already knows is coming and stop with the elite club of only telling the CPM members about your plans. This will also provide the community a chance to provide feedback on the upcoming patch and point out any mistakes before they happen (Remember when CCP forgot they removed the 10% damage buff from weaponry and because of that double nerfed the HMG? Or when you decided to buff the HP on LAVs?). Please communicate with us. This community is full of people who are experience beta testers, who are able to provide excellent feedback and is an absolutly FREE resource for CCP to tap into. Help us help you.
They want to surprise us?
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Taeryn Frost
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.07.07 17:54:00 -
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I'm all for transparency and it is important for CCP to communicate to us their near term plans and whatnot. (Even though that's pretty much what devblogs are anyway) I prefer to plan my activities based on new developments afterall.
But...
After reading a lot of posts I'm fairly confident that lots of this forum will complain no matter what, in any and all circumstances. Not too sure that incentivizes the Devs to want to increase their communication level.
And yes...I already know I'm gonna hear "If they don't communicate more and fix the game we'll all quit and the game will die" just like all the other posts for the last few months. |
imma monsta
OUT FOR BLOOD.
11
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Posted - 2013.07.07 18:38:00 -
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!!!CONFIRMED!!!!
There will be 2 incredible additions that will completely change the user gameplay in 1.3. We all have been asking for it and CCP has graciously conceded to our requests. In order to alleviate the AFK issues with MCC campers. There will be the addition of Hot Chocolate and a fireplace onto the MCC to allow AFKers to relax on those snowy battlefields.
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Aqil Aegivan
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
139
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Posted - 2013.07.07 18:43:00 -
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Taeryn Frost wrote:After reading a lot of posts I'm fairly confident that lots of this forum will complain no matter what, in any and all circumstances. Not too sure that incentivizes the Devs to want to increase their communication level.
So they should take their ball and go home because people are mean to them?
They took it upon themselves to promise improvements to communication and they can either deliver or have this become another failure for people to point out when describing this game and its developer. |
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Taeryn Frost
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.07.07 19:06:00 -
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Aqil Aegivan wrote:Taeryn Frost wrote:After reading a lot of posts I'm fairly confident that lots of this forum will complain no matter what, in any and all circumstances. Not too sure that incentivizes the Devs to want to increase their communication level. So they should take their ball and go home because people are mean to them? They took it upon themselves to promise improvements to communication and they can either deliver or have this become another failure for people to point out when describing this game and its developer.
That wasn't really my meaning, but the reaction is about what I expected considering the other forum posts.
There is absolutely a need for them to improve in all areas, and constructive criticism is certainly necessary to the process. In the end I guess I feel there's more forum raging and pouting as opposed to constructive criticism. Just my opinion.
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Aqil Aegivan
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
139
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Posted - 2013.07.07 19:27:00 -
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Taeryn Frost wrote:In the end I guess I feel there's more forum raging and pouting as opposed to constructive criticism. Just my opinion.
That's true, possibly more true of GD than the whole forum but generally, sure.
If your original meaning was about the overall quality of feedback then you're right, it isn't great. That's why communication from the devs is important. It stops rumours, helps fight unfounded rage and sensationalized topics and gives people with something worth saying a reason to believe the devs actually care about their input. It's part of the job and dealing with fallout from communication is part of that.
Clear info, rather than having to scrape data from video stills, etc, would improve community feedback overall. If they don't like the raging that goes with it so be it, it's better than the rage coming from unadvertised changes and lack of communication. |
Taeryn Frost
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.07.07 19:45:00 -
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Valid point and I find myself agreeing with you. I even posted a similar type critique when commenting on the Respec delays fiasco...which thankfully is in the past. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
968
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Posted - 2013.07.07 19:49:00 -
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Aqil Aegivan wrote:They took it upon themselves to promise improvements to communication and they can either deliver or have this become another failure for people to point out when describing this game and its developer.
Waaaugh.
Doesn't mean it has to be on whatever terms it is the various forum whiners decide to make. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
144
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Posted - 2013.07.07 19:58:00 -
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Aqil Aegivan wrote:
That's true, possibly more true of GD than the whole forum but generally, sure.
If your original meaning was about the overall quality of feedback then you're right, it isn't great. That's why communication from the devs is important. It stops rumours, helps fight unfounded rage and sensationalized topics and gives people with something worth saying a reason to believe the devs actually care about their input. It's part of the job and dealing with fallout from communication is part of that.
Clear info, rather than having to scrape data from video stills, etc, would improve community feedback overall. If they don't like the raging that goes with it so be it, it's better than the rage coming from unadvertised changes and lack of communication.
+1000 if it was possible.
Said it time and time again. CCP really should embrace this. |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4
Expert Intervention Caldari State
114
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Posted - 2013.07.07 20:18:00 -
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Beta beta beta beta beta beta game is beta beta beta beta beta beta |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
511
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Posted - 2013.07.07 20:33:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:[Request] For player owned MCC in 1.3
With team bonuses and modules that give bonuses to vehicles and bays that lets us choose when and where to drop installations. |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
162
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Posted - 2013.07.07 20:54:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:there will be a blog covering the changes before they happen. CCP realized that they need to let us know BEFORE they play with stuffins?
Has someone got a Brain surgery in Shanghai? |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
163
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Posted - 2013.07.07 21:13:00 -
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Lycuo wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Jin Robot wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Well timestamps in chat because they are fun and a really large dev blog on Tuesday about some changes coming before 1.3... but I guess you could call those changes as part of 1.3... I don't know... that is up to you... but yea... dev blog on Tuesday about STUFF.
That is from Team True Grit. "changes" sends my mind to all kinds of places. IWS says we should be "concerned" about them? Is my foil hat sparkling? Well... I wouldn't be concerned about them... unless you are a corporation in Planetary Conquest that is sitting on a bunch of unattacked districts just making money... then maybe be concerned. Hmm options for this update: start of PvE?Intro of cheaper Geno pacs? anything else? Do the Bolded.
Please.
I'll be good little DUSTer and join a Corp then. |
Doyle Reese
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
247
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Posted - 2013.07.08 06:13:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:[Request] For player owned MCC in 1.3
only if a corporation is willing to spend 120 million ISK for each one :P
on another thought, I was rewatching the 2011 trailer again, and I noticed that the RDVs have a price tag as well. (4,400,000 ISK each in case you were wondering) Does CCP have plans to have player corporations buy their own RDVs as well as their MCCs to bring into battle?
which means we have drunk pilots piloting 4.4 Million ISK hunks of metal |
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