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Asirius Medaius
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Posted - 2013.07.05 07:34:00 -
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This is a very unique chance for players such as I, who waited to play until Thursday. I plan on capping before the downtime (which wont be too long) so I can get the dual-cap event to hit the ground running.
If I am correct though, people who didn't play during the event today will be getting a new shot at the triple SP with refreshed skill cap. The nice thing about this is the amount of grind combined with boosters, as follows.
Play all day Thursday with boosters activated and get 4.5x SP modifier, until capped out (which I anticipated doing only on Thursday) which allows me to get 856,800 SP in one day. Then, once the cap is restarted after downtime, I can get an additional 856,800 SP anytime after the cap readjustment on Friday. Since I (and many others taking advantage of this opportunity) are going to cap out again with boosters, this means that in the course of two days, I can make 1,713,600, which divided by 190,400 (SP per week) comes up to 9 weeks of time needed to get this amount of SP.
So, for 2 dollars in boosters (3 day active booster), and starting and expending my cap on Thursday and restarting cap on Friday and repeating the process, I can get 9 weeks of SP progress (assuming the person in context reaches the cap) in 2 days.
Tl;Dr: This is going to allow people who planned ahead to get over 2 months of SP in only a couple days, if done right. Looks like my patience to wait until Thursday was not in vain.
CCP, thank you for this unique opportunity; Its times like these where people are able to catch up to the "Big Dogs" of Dust 514.
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Asirius Medaius
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Posted - 2013.07.05 08:06:00 -
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Emi Love wrote:So if I cap today after down time I will have a whole weeks work of sp to grind again?
From what I am reading, I think you may want to cap before downtime. I think your cap (unadjusted) will be put up to 190,400 regardless of its position before downtime hits. If I were you guys (especially the ones in the European timezone), I would grind right now and get as much SP as you can in the next couple hours until downtime hits. Once downtime hits, you have almost a whole week to get all that SP taken care of. This way, you can get as much as possible out of the Triple-SP-Double-Cap-Week that is currently going on.
For those who are newer to the game and are not doing anything, but want to reinforce their position in a higher standing (relative to SP), you should immediately get off these forums and start unloading some hot lead into some Reds... Right now.
Downtime is only a few/couple hours away.
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Asirius Medaius
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Posted - 2013.07.05 08:18:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Crap !, I knew i should grinded all my SP yesterday ...a bit of a miscalculation on my part... 
To be fair, no one (not even CCP, from what I've read) saw this coming. This was pretty spontaneous; you still have time to finish as much cap as you can though in the next couple hours. You would be surprised how much SP you can still gain if you aren't currently busy. |
Asirius Medaius
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Posted - 2013.07.05 08:28:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Asirius Medaius wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Crap !, I knew i should grinded all my SP yesterday ...a bit of a miscalculation on my part... To be fair, no one (not even CCP, from what I've read) saw this coming. This was pretty spontaneous; you still have time to finish as much cap as you can though in the next couple hours. You would be surprised how much SP you can still gain if you aren't currently busy. yeah well.. that is the problem, i'm busy right now...But i did saw this coming, i just wasn't expecting to happen to day. Ohh well.
Don't sweat it mate, there will be plenty of opportunities in the future for you to catch up where someone else won't. Everyone gets their shot at at an opportunity like this, but not everyone can exploit it. Likewise for the next time something similar in the EVE Universe happens. (Who knows, maybe there will be an event I may miss that everyone else will benefit from) |
Asirius Medaius
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Posted - 2013.07.05 20:45:00 -
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Meconium Blue wrote: Since its very clear CCP can not manage SP. Can they give a 30 day omega to all who capped on Wednesday? That would make up for the SP missed out on and the possibility to gain a little extra for the "Overtime" we put in.
Why? Because you guys couldn't wait until Thursday to start playing and cap out? You seem like the type that feels entitled to equal treatment despite the dissonance between our conditions. So, the next time you ever get an opportunity to find yourself a benefit that gives you a LITTLE bit of an edge, I'm going to come on the forums and ask for everything you received, despite the fact that you took an opportunity by planning for it in advance.
Sorry mate, but this is the world of EVE Online; The people who use their brain more than their instinct for the pursuit of decision-making find themselves rewarded more than the common man.
(Of course, this is very context-specific, but in this scenario, if CCP gave Omega boosters to everyone who capped on Wednesday cause they COULDN'T wait until Thursday, they are going to **** off a lot of people, including myself.)
"Success always comes where preparation meets opportunity" -Henry Hartman |
Asirius Medaius
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Posted - 2013.07.05 21:33:00 -
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Promethius Franklin wrote:Asirius Medaius wrote:Meconium Blue wrote: Since its very clear CCP can not manage SP. Can they give a 30 day omega to all who capped on Wednesday? That would make up for the SP missed out on and the possibility to gain a little extra for the "Overtime" we put in.
Why? Because you guys couldn't wait until Thursday to start playing and cap out? You seem like the type that feels entitled to equal treatment despite the dissonance between our conditions. So, the next time you ever get an opportunity to find yourself a benefit that gives you a LITTLE bit of an edge, I'm going to come on the forums and ask for everything you received, despite the fact that you took an opportunity by planning for it in advance. Sorry mate, but this is the world of EVE Online; The people who use their brain more than their instinct for the pursuit of decision-making find themselves rewarded more than the common man. (Of course, this is very context-specific, but in this scenario, if CCP gave Omega boosters to everyone who capped on Wednesday cause they COULDN'T wait until Thursday, they are going to **** off a lot of people, including myself.) "Success always comes where preparation meets opportunity" -Henry Hartman Many people who played on Wednesday did it not because they weren't paying attention, leaving them unaware of the event, or because of a failed understanding of the event. They did it because they wanted to play that day, understood what the intended result was and decided playing a few extra matches to get to that 570k number wasn't an issue. There was no reason to wait outside of playing less based on the intended change to the cap for the event. This wasn't a lack of prep on their part. This wasn't a result of impatience on ignorance. This was the result of a system not performing as intended and giving unforeseeable advantages based upon the attempts by CCP to rectify the original mistake. There was no way to anticipate this and no use of your brain to prevent it. Your insults are completely baseless, and I suspect your understanding is possibly lacking based upon your failure to comprehend that.
Well, I agree with you on the first paragraph of your statement, but your assumption of me generating insults (and therefore, indirectly insulting me afterward with your "idea" that I didn't understand the principality of this matter) is far from correct. However, these are the forums, so I expect behavior like this out of spite. And for your assumption that there was no way to anticipate this, I think you may want to retract it and consider reading the thread a couple more times, because I'm not the only one here that knew there would be a foreseeable event to take advantage of. Regardless, this accident and how you perform your decision, is what incorporates the long-term advantage in Dust 514.
Anyway, I'll stop feeding the fire for a bit, and hop back on Dust, cause god knows, I have alot of SP to consider allocating... |
Asirius Medaius
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Posted - 2013.07.05 21:36:00 -
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Meconium Blue wrote:Asirius Medaius wrote:Meconium Blue wrote: Since its very clear CCP can not manage SP. Can they give a 30 day omega to all who capped on Wednesday? That would make up for the SP missed out on and the possibility to gain a little extra for the "Overtime" we put in.
Why? Because you guys couldn't wait until Thursday to start playing and cap out? You seem like the type that feels entitled to equal treatment despite the dissonance between our conditions. So, the next time you ever get an opportunity to find yourself a benefit that gives you a LITTLE bit of an edge, I'm going to come on the forums and ask for everything you received, despite the fact that you took an opportunity by planning for it in advance. Sorry mate, but this is the world of EVE Online; The people who use their brain more than their instinct for the pursuit of decision-making find themselves rewarded more than the common man. (Of course, this is very context-specific, but in this scenario, if CCP gave Omega boosters to everyone who capped on Wednesday cause they COULDN'T wait until Thursday, they are going to **** off a lot of people, including myself.) "Success always comes where preparation meets opportunity" -Henry Hartman LMAO "COULDN'T wait" & "brain more than instinct" Do some research with your brain instead of using your instinct to reply. CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Thank you for the interest in the July events everyone, below are answers to your questions regarding the events. Triple SP Event1. The weekly SP cap will reset on Wednesday, July 3rd as usual after DT. If you hit your weekly in the first day then you will still be eligible for the extended SP cap for the event on Thursday. For example, if the weekly SP cap was 1000 and you hit the cap on Wednesday before the event starts, then on Thursday we will extend the weekly SP cap to 3000 so you will have an extra 2000 added to your weekly SP cap for the event. Of course, the number I used in the example is just an arbitray number and not the actual SP cap amounts in order to illustrate the point. 2. The passive SP gain and caps are not part of the triple SP event, so they will work normally. 3. Your extra SP earned from skill boosters do not count towards your weekly SP cap. For more info on that go to https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=74943&find=unreadMordus' Challenge Event1. The 100 Objective hack challenge includes all hackable objects in-game and includes vehicles, CRU, turrets, supply depots and the skirmish objectives. 2. Hack assists do not count. The above info has been updated on the events dev blog. Thanks again for your feedbacks.
I find it ironic that you are producing that statement, but simultaneously complaining about this event on the forums; Who here has truly not used their brain to a reasonable extent?
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Asirius Medaius
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Posted - 2013.07.05 21:41:00 -
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InsidiousN wrote:Why don't you just start these triple XP weeks on Wednesday when the cap is reset, CCP? Stop wasting time by creating problems unnecessarily that you then have to fix. Have you ever heard of the KISS principle? Keep It Simple Stupid (emphasis on Stupid)
I have to agree with you when it comes to starting the triple XP event on Wednesday rather than Thursday; that could have allowed us to evade this entire scenario completely. |
Asirius Medaius
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Posted - 2013.07.05 22:11:00 -
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Promethius Franklin wrote:Asirius Medaius wrote:Promethius Franklin wrote:Asirius Medaius wrote:Meconium Blue wrote: Since its very clear CCP can not manage SP. Can they give a 30 day omega to all who capped on Wednesday? That would make up for the SP missed out on and the possibility to gain a little extra for the "Overtime" we put in.
Why? Because you guys couldn't wait until Thursday to start playing and cap out? You seem like the type that feels entitled to equal treatment despite the dissonance between our conditions. So, the next time you ever get an opportunity to find yourself a benefit that gives you a LITTLE bit of an edge, I'm going to come on the forums and ask for everything you received, despite the fact that you took an opportunity by planning for it in advance. Sorry mate, but this is the world of EVE Online; The people who use their brain more than their instinct for the pursuit of decision-making find themselves rewarded more than the common man. (Of course, this is very context-specific, but in this scenario, if CCP gave Omega boosters to everyone who capped on Wednesday cause they COULDN'T wait until Thursday, they are going to **** off a lot of people, including myself.) "Success always comes where preparation meets opportunity" -Henry Hartman Many people who played on Wednesday did it not because they weren't paying attention, leaving them unaware of the event, or because of a failed understanding of the event. They did it because they wanted to play that day, understood what the intended result was and decided playing a few extra matches to get to that 570k number wasn't an issue. There was no reason to wait outside of playing less based on the intended change to the cap for the event. This wasn't a lack of prep on their part. This wasn't a result of impatience on ignorance. This was the result of a system not performing as intended and giving unforeseeable advantages based upon the attempts by CCP to rectify the original mistake. There was no way to anticipate this and no use of your brain to prevent it. Your insults are completely baseless, and I suspect your understanding is possibly lacking based upon your failure to comprehend that. Well, I agree with you on the first paragraph of your statement, but your assumption of me generating insults (and therefore, indirectly insulting me afterward with your "idea" that I didn't understand the principality of this matter) is far from correct. However, these are the forums, so I expect behavior like this out of spite. And for your assumption that there was no way to anticipate this, I think you may want to retract it and consider reading the thread a couple more times, because I'm not the only one here that knew there would be a foreseeable event to take advantage of. Regardless, this accident and how you perform your decision, is what incorporates the long-term advantage in Dust 514. Anyway, I'll stop feeding the fire for a bit, and hop back on Dust, cause god knows, I have alot of SP to consider allocating... I could very well be wrong about your understanding, but I can't retract the fact that your retorts of entitlement complexes, accusations of impatience, citing the usage of ones brain (which while it may not have been INTENDED as an insult, it clearly becomes one as it insinuates that a lack of intelligence or mental investment lead to the current situation) , and the final quote citing preparation all become salt in the wounds of those who, through no fault of their own, became the victims of someone else' mistake. As far as the thread, I have read it. Again, on Wednesday there was no potential advantage to waiting save play time as the error which occurred during Thursday's downtime was unable to be anticipated. When chance and/or the errors of others falls in your favor it is in no way a sign of superior activity or planning on your part. Your only claim is that you profited by waiting. This is correct, but lets not pretend you outsmarted the system to any extent. You got lucky. Plain and simple. Remember, the reset you are currently taking advantage of was never intended to happen, couldn't have been anticipated on Wednesday, and shouldn't have had any affect on total potential SP gains. I, like you, am getting more than I would have since I did not cap Wednesday, but I am under no illusions of superiority based upon the outcome.
Well, to end an argument, I definitely don't have any "illusions of superiority" (not that you were discretely implying that), but I have to agree with you to an extent. I feel that the only part of this SP exploit scenario that was under our control was saving our SP cap for Thursday by not playing on Wednesday, while the reset on SP cap for Friday was unpredictable by anyone's part. I am only arguing the first portion of the scenario.
I will say this though; I feel that since the cap was reset on Friday downtime, the amount of SP they COULD have gotten before the downtime should be added on top of the cap that was reset on Friday.
P.S.: Thanks for being very mature about getting your point across in your argument; It's nice to see a rational arguer as supposed to a person who tries to get their point across by leaving the Caps Lock on. |
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