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Gods Architect 0uter.Heaven 184	Posted - 2013.07.05 05:39:00 - [1] - Quote I'm waiting for and alliance to commit to a complete take over a molden heath. I would love to write about that and title it Legends. That's all.
The Black Art Pro Hic Immortalis 154	Posted - 2013.07.05 05:54:00 - [2] - Quote Well, that's impossible unless one alliance gained the vast majority (80% or so) of corps.
Gods Architect 0uter.Heaven 184	Posted - 2013.07.05 05:59:00 - [3] - Quote lol just a thought since CCP refuse to expand PC
Rums McCuUladh Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 54	Posted - 2013.07.05 06:05:00 - [4] - Quote The Black Art wrote: Well, that's impossible unless one alliance gained the vast majority (80% or so) of corps. I could be completely wrong but I'd say 6-7 of the top corps together could hold MoldenHeath.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3675	Posted - 2013.07.05 06:06:00 - [5] - Quote Gods Architect wrote: lol just a thought since CCP refuse to expand PC why expand when ppl are leaving? game doesnt have the playerbase for 2 regions, atm doesnt even have the playerbase for one
xIc0n1k Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy 64	Posted - 2013.07.05 06:08:00 - [6] - Quote Gods Architect wrote: I'm waiting for and alliance to commit to a complete take over a molden heath. I would love to write about that and title it Legends. That's all. Don't think it's possible for one single alliance to hold all of molden heath. Just not enough man power or time to be honest.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2521	Posted - 2013.07.05 06:22:00 - [7] - Quote xIc0n1k wrote: Gods Architect wrote: I'm waiting for and alliance to commit to a complete take over a molden heath. I would love to write about that and title it Legends. That's all. Don't think it's possible for one single alliance to hold all of molden heath. Just not enough man power or time to be honest. aaah... i remember corps like PRO and ZION had big dreams about this... where quantity > quality... where are these guys now
xIc0n1k Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy 64	Posted - 2013.07.05 06:24:00 - [8] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: xIc0n1k wrote: Gods Architect wrote: I'm waiting for and alliance to commit to a complete take over a molden heath. I would love to write about that and title it Legends. That's all. Don't think it's possible for one single alliance to hold all of molden heath. Just not enough man power or time to be honest. aaah... i remember corps like PRO and ZION had big dreams about this... where quantity > quality... where are these guys now PRO is well...Being PRO. Zion is dead. If ppl didn't see that coming, at least with pro, they need their heads checked lol.
Rums McCuUladh Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 54	Posted - 2013.07.05 06:26:00 - [9] - Quote Do Pro even exist any more? I haven't seen any them in a long time.
xIc0n1k Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy 64	Posted - 2013.07.05 06:27:00 - [10] - Quote Rums McCuUladh wrote: Do Pro even exist any more? I haven't seen any them in a long time. I think they are still a corp...Just running pubs now a days though.

NIKIA BETHUNE Ill Omens EoN. 360	Posted - 2013.07.05 06:28:00 - [11] - Quote Gen packs ruined PC My opinion.
Xero The Mishima Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 4	Posted - 2013.07.05 06:29:00 - [12] - Quote NIKIA BETHUNE wrote: Gen packs ruined PC My opinion. I think you should only be able to use them IF you don't have a single territory. Even that would get exploited though as you could just make alt corp hold all lands or allies. Ya I agree Nikia. How would new corps get into PC tho?
NIKIA BETHUNE Ill Omens EoN. 360	Posted - 2013.07.05 06:40:00 - [13] - Quote Xero The Mishima wrote: NIKIA BETHUNE wrote: Gen packs ruined PC My opinion. I think you should only be able to use them IF you don't have a single territory. Even that would get exploited though as you could just make alt corp hold all lands or allies. Ya I agree Nikia. How would new corps get into PC tho? The current system makes PC too much of a job being able to be attacked anywhere anytime. Burns people out if they had gone with their first version u could actually have battle fronts and smaller corps wouldn't be able to get bash by corps with more Isk. It would be more tatics and skill this is about Isk and numbers. This current system also renders research labs next to useless. Don't get me started on timers. It's very flawed. Fun but flawed. And what we wanted to avoid will soon happen. After LoI or eon rein supreme what is PC then. The whole tactical element to PC was tossed out the window.
Xero The Mishima Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 6	Posted - 2013.07.05 06:44:00 - [14] - Quote NIKIA BETHUNE wrote: Xero The Mishima wrote: NIKIA BETHUNE wrote: Gen packs ruined PC My opinion. I think you should only be able to use them IF you don't have a single territory. Even that would get exploited though as you could just make alt corp hold all lands or allies. Ya I agree Nikia. How would new corps get into PC tho? The current system makes PC too much of a job being able to be attacked anywhere anytime. Burns people out if they had gone with their first version u could actually have battle fronts and smaller corps wouldn't be able to get bash by corps with more Isk. It would be more tatics and skill this is about Isk and numbers. This current system also renders research labs next to useless. Don't get me started on timers. It's very flawed. Fun but flawed. And what we wanted to avoid will soon happen. After LoI or eon rein supreme what is PC then. The whole tactical element to PC was tossed out the window. This is true.
The Black Art Pro Hic Immortalis 154	Posted - 2013.07.05 07:46:00 - [15] - Quote Rums McCuUladh wrote: The Black Art wrote: Well, that's impossible unless one alliance gained the vast majority (80% or so) of corps. I could be completely wrong but I'd say 6-7 of the top corps together could hold MoldenHeath. I'd say the majority of top corps don't have the members to do more than 2-3 battles at once (same timer). Owning all of MH would require a ton of timer stacking, and it would just be impossible to show up for all of them.
Skipper Jones Red Star. EoN. 235	Posted - 2013.07.05 07:54:00 - [16] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: xIc0n1k wrote: Gods Architect wrote: I'm waiting for and alliance to commit to a complete take over a molden heath. I would love to write about that and title it Legends. That's all. Don't think it's possible for one single alliance to hold all of molden heath. Just not enough man power or time to be honest. aaah... i remember corps like PRO and ZION had big dreams about this... where quantity > quality... where are these guys now PRO had WAY more than ZION. ZION only had about 240 members. That was STB that was 'quantity>quality'
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers EoN. 143	Posted - 2013.07.05 08:05:00 - [17] - Quote Skipper Jones wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: xIc0n1k wrote: Gods Architect wrote: I'm waiting for and alliance to commit to a complete take over a molden heath. I would love to write about that and title it Legends. That's all. Don't think it's possible for one single alliance to hold all of molden heath. Just not enough man power or time to be honest. aaah... i remember corps like PRO and ZION had big dreams about this... where quantity > quality... where are these guys now PRO had WAY more than ZION. ZION only had about 240 members. That was STB that was 'quantity>quality' None of the corps listed next to PRO here deserve to be.
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers EoN. 651	Posted - 2013.07.05 15:34:00 - [18] - Quote Xero The Mishima wrote: NIKIA BETHUNE wrote: Gen packs ruined PC My opinion. I think you should only be able to use them IF you don't have a single territory. Even that would get exploited though as you could just make alt corp hold all lands or allies. Ya I agree Nikia. How would new corps get into PC tho? simple... holler at me
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission 1504	Posted - 2013.07.05 15:37:00 - [19] - Quote Why would one alliancen want to hold all of MH anyway?
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers EoN. 651	Posted - 2013.07.05 15:37:00 - [20] - Quote the bottom line is if something like this happened... Dust would die, completely PC is already a 3 headed beast and not much more, there is little variety on the map, which is why some of us have been pushing for greater involvement. the big boys are gonna metagame and war each other, but we all need to be in agreement that without new groups getting in and establishing themselves this game will rapidly deteriorate worse than it already has the new build is bringing back some players, if even only for a short while, which is a golden opportunity to get more corps into PC. trust me, without PC this game would be under 1500 players daily is my bet. most everyone i know of the competitive gamers, they only play now for PC. its a lot of fun win or lose, and I want everyone to experience it

Rogatien Merc Ill Omens EoN. 286	Posted - 2013.07.05 17:24:00 - [21] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: the bottom line is if something like this happened... Dust would die, completely PC is already a 3 headed beast and not much more, there is little variety on the map, which is why some of us have been pushing for greater involvement. the big boys are gonna metagame and war each other, but we all need to be in agreement that without new groups getting in and establishing themselves this game will rapidly deteriorate worse than it already has the new build is bringing back some players, if even only for a short while, which is a golden opportunity to get more corps into PC. trust me, without PC this game would be under 1500 players daily is my bet. most everyone i know of the competitive gamers, they only play now for PC. its a lot of fun win or lose, and I want everyone to experience it QFT ... it is also easy to lose perspective. Somewhere out there there is a little corp of five or six active dudes dreaming of the day their corp will grow to be big enough to build the funds and tactical capability to make it into PC and put their name on the map. They're running around in militia gear trying to figure out how long it will take them to get a Duvolle. They're squadding up and pushing hard in skirmish because it is fun to win. We're all bittervets here... some of the new players are still excited. The trick is to foster that and build upon it to ensure this game survives.
Morathi III Pro Hic Immortalis 116	Posted - 2013.07.05 20:31:00 - [22] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: the bottom line is if something like this happened... Dust would die, completely PC is already a 3 headed beast and not much more, there is little variety on the map, which is why some of us have been pushing for greater involvement. the big boys are gonna metagame and war each other, but we all need to be in agreement that without new groups getting in and establishing themselves this game will rapidly deteriorate worse than it already has the new build is bringing back some players, if even only for a short while, which is a golden opportunity to get more corps into PC. trust me, without PC this game would be under 1500 players daily is my bet. most everyone i know of the competitive gamers, they only play now for PC. its a lot of fun win or lose, and I want everyone to experience it Cant be more agree, but in the same time some corp leave because of PC, take a look at Euro zone and what happen to zion, just for exemple we have beaten 11 times in a row Zion, im not sure zion player enjoyed this, personnaly that need more time to take a district and the defense need advantage (smaller but one) some corps has been destroyed in a week and have lost a chunk of isk, dont think we see them back and some player leave the game cuz of this, any suggestion is very welcome cuz its a serious concern for the viability of the game


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