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Beef Supreme 4
WEKILLING JOY
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Posted - 2013.07.04 08:30:00 -
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It is quite simple what I want to be implemented. The ability to go in to a "arena" mode where I can make my own map, tweak guns and suits and make my own game modes. Let me first explain the tools needed to bring this to life. First, the ability to bring objects in to an enclosed area to make maps. Second, getting "core" items, meaning I can tweak ALL the attributes of those items. So with suites I could set up how fast a suite can sprint or walk, how high it can jump, how much shield/armor it has, how much stamina it has, whether it can take fall damage etc. And than weapons would be no different. I can set up how much damage they give to shields/armor, range, how big the clip is, rate of fire, charge up time etc.Three, the ability to make game modes. So I could have a five team death match or I could make trouble in terrorist town. As an example of what you could do with this, I would create a game mode called zombie survival where it starts with 1 zombie and 31 mercs. All the mercs would have only 100 armor and a AR that does 34 damage. The zombies would get a suit that goes really fast and jumps really high with 100 armor and nova knifes that do 25 damage per stab. If a merc is killed he becomes a zombie. It would obviously need tweaking but it would be fun. All of this would be good as well for people who want to find the optimal balance for the game, or just to make things OP on purpose. These are all just basic ideas that definitely can be expanded upon. I just want people to read this and say "good idea" and share their thoughts. But to CCP, you would be amazed at what people can come up with if you just give them the tools to do it. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.07.04 08:35:00 -
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Amazing the sparks of creativity that comes up from time to time on the forums.
+1 to you sir |
Beef Supreme 4
WEKILLING JOY
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Posted - 2013.07.04 08:37:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Amazing the sparks of creativity that comes up from time to time on the forums.
+1 to you sir
Thank you, It's amazing that I wrote this at 1:30 PM. |
Beef Supreme 4
WEKILLING JOY
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Posted - 2013.07.04 09:04:00 -
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Beef Supreme 4 wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Amazing the sparks of creativity that comes up from time to time on the forums.
+1 to you sir Thank you, It's amazing that I wrote this at 1:30 PM.
AM I mean. |
Imp Smash
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.07.04 09:13:00 -
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Errr-- that's an old game mode. Been in many different player mod games for over a decade. Way to take credit.
Annoyance with grandstanding aside - I don't think the server can upload game modes and run them like that. Can you imagine the hacking that would ensue? |
Beef Supreme 4
WEKILLING JOY
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Posted - 2013.07.04 09:19:00 -
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Imp Smash wrote:Errr-- that's an old game mode. Been in many different player mod games for over a decade. Way to take credit.
Annoyance with grandstanding aside - I don't think the server can upload game modes and run them like that. Can you imagine the hacking that would ensue?
I was saying that's a mode people could do with the tools. And you would't be able to "hack" it. |
Imp Smash
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.07.04 10:12:00 -
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Ok. Let me try again as I was a bit impolite. Let me start by apologizing.
As for the game mode creation idea - you have to keep a few things in mind.
1.triggers. Certain events causing certain things. For example - zombie knifes marine. Marine dies. Both respawn as zombies. That's a bit complex as far as a script trigger goes. Look at StarCraft 2 if you want to see how deep that hole goes. 2.Data upload/Download. Players will be downloading and uploading data to and from their ps3. Hacked maps could be sent. 3.server access. Dust does not use your ps3 as the server host like many games with editable maps such as Farcry 3. It's on tranquility. So to be able to play with other people TRANQUILITY has to accept that data- create a runtime of that game mode. Again - SERIOUS security and data potentials here.
And even in a perfect world where people wouldn't try to take advantage of the system - I don't the servers are designed for that. |
Laurent Cazaderon
What The French CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.07.04 10:21:00 -
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That's just probably a thousand mile away from doable Would be cool but would probably do more harm than good. And oh my god, so many UI, code and QA time would be needed to just get a scrap of what you'd like to have. |
Beef Supreme 4
WEKILLING JOY
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Posted - 2013.07.04 19:15:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:That's just probably a thousand mile away from doable Would be cool but would probably do more harm than good. And oh my god, so many UI, code and QA time would be needed to just get a scrap of what you'd like to have.
Yeah I know. But it would be fine if we just got a scrap at a time. Like we are with the rest of the game.
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Beef Supreme 4
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Posted - 2013.07.04 20:54:00 -
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What a lot of people don't seem to realize is that all of this would be step by step. 1: map editor. This would probably be the hardest to do. 2: suites and items that we can customize. They most likely have all the tools for changing all the attributes of suites and items anyway. They would just give us an abridged version of it. It's that simple. |
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Beef Supreme 4
WEKILLING JOY
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Posted - 2013.07.04 20:56:00 -
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Scratch my ideas on gamemodes. That would be to much of a hassle for them, I was just spewing at that point. |
Jathniel
G I A N T EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:56:00 -
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Beef Supreme 4 wrote:Scratch my ideas on gamemodes. That would be to much of a hassle for them, I was just spewing at that point.
That's not spew man, that's a creative mind. I'm a modder myself.
All it takes is one crazy person to bring about a change. Maybe someone just as crazy works at CCP. So don't dismiss your ideas man.
Literally the only problem with your idea, is that Dust514 is "One Universe, One War". Even your high sec matches (instant battles), are taking place on a REAL location in EVE. To give everyone independent server control, free to make their own custom game modes, weapon balances, etc. would essentially start splintering the game and its purpose.
I can see something like this being implemented to a VERY limited degree in the coming Arena mode... but you never know what the future brings. |
Provolonee
Undefined Risk DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:37:00 -
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Maybe not as far off if you stayed within the parameters of what dust is. -A corp district, open to come and go any time. Where you can change up the layout and what goes in the sockets. -placeable instalation are coming.
There you have your map kit.
Game modes well, if you and your Corp were able to agree on (and follow) certain rules alot options open up. Make your own fun in the dust sandbox.
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Beef Supreme 4
WEKILLING JOY
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:40:00 -
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Provolonee wrote:Maybe not as far off if you stayed within the parameters of what dust is. -A corp district, open to come and go any time. Where you can change up the layout and what goes in the sockets. -placeable instalation are coming.
There you have your map kit.
Game modes well, if you and your Corp were able to agree on (and follow) certain rules alot options open up. Make your own fun in the dust sandbox.
Yes that is a pretty good possibility of how you could get it. Thank's for the input, and say hi to Pyrex for me. |
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