Hey CCP I know I requested one a few weeks ago but we realy need a new Respec with the release of new vehicles and new classes; that way those of us who want to run that new class can, or want that new vehicle can as well ya know, please consider it

Hey CCP I know I requested one a few weeks ago but we realy need a new Respec with the release of new vehicles and new classes; that way those of us who want to run that new class can, or want that new vehicle can as well ya know, please consider it

So, every time we get an update or every time we get a new vehicle/dropsuit etc........ you want a respec? Because 'oh think about the new people, think about those who want to spec into this new suit or vehicle, think of the children! Won't somebody please think of the children'.
Give me a f***ing break!!!!
There are always going to be new stuff added and there will always be expansions, if you want to spec into a possible future suit/vehicle......SAVE YOUR SP AND STOP WASTING IT TO SPEC INTO PROTO etc.
no more respecs, its getting ridiculous and I can't believe you even took the time to create a thread requesting such a thing. People are laughing at you.
again, there will be no more respecs.

I dont think new content deserves respecs i believe racial vehicle/suits that are the same tier of what weer have now (ie minmatar HAV or Caldari light suit) deserve a respec. I love playing Heavy to do so i HAVE to spec amarr, i wanted to spec winmatar or possibly gallente once i see the suit i shouldn't have to dump millions of SP and just forget about the SP already spent on something that should be out already.

I also dont want a full respec, only the same tier stuff should get refunded. So amarr heavy=yes grenades or cor upgrades=no.

Respecs should practically be a purchasable commodity in this game with how the updates roll out. With how small the player base is and predictably how much it's going to decrease soon, CCP should be focusing on encouraging players to enjoy their game time and play how they want, not fretting over how hard they just got hit with a nerf hammer.
If a person is not a front line fighter and that's not how they want to play but the nerfs come along and make it so their build is no longer viable for mid to long range then why should they have to change? Because some elitist aholes think they sound tough when they say they don't need respecs? Everyone should have a means of playing the role they feel they want to and if the updates are going to take that role away from them again and again EVERY month from now on you'll see the player base drop out pretty fast and the elitists can just play with themselves.

The difference between racial dropsuits/vehicles and pilot dropsuits/jets/MTACs/etc is that the pilot dropsuits/MTACs/etc haven't been implemented where as scouts, heavies, Havs, Lavs, and dropships have been incompletely added.

Jets are new content. Cal scouts are missing content.

The thing is, we're talking about two different games. When I say no more respecs, I'm talking about a FPS set in New Eden. When you say SP would be meaningless, you're talking about just another COD/Battlefield clone.

I don't want to play your game. Maybe you don't want to play mine. Fine. We can agree to disagree, but honestly, respecs aren't going to keep players around. Having more content and a better matchmaker will do that.

I completely agree. I'm honestly dieing (metaphorically, the metaphor meaning my want to play is diminishing) waiting for something outside of the fairly bland battlefield aspects we currently have. But being that I'm a fairly new player I don't even have a complete build, and I may have to start a new one. Most of the long term players I know just shrug as they have over double the SP I have and a minimum of 2 fully functioning builds.

If I had some PVE or even some administrative roles outside of the battlefield to keep me busy or give me an alternative way of earning isk and sp that would be fantastic but continuously spawning in with an incomplete build to feed the full protos constantly is pretty boring as far as gameplay goes.

I understand that New Eden is a unique and difficult place, but the FPS market is not unique and full of choices. Seeing as this is currently just another FPS and one that is lacking in mechanics versus the competition, making it easier for players who come from other games to bridge the gap might help out until there is some other viable content.

The difference between racial dropsuits/vehicles and pilot dropsuits/jets/MTACs/etc is that the pilot dropsuits/MTACs/etc haven't been implemented where as scouts, heavies, Havs, Lavs, and dropships have been incompletely added.

Jets are new content. Cal scouts are missing content.

Respecs should practically be a purchasable commodity in this game with how the updates roll out. With how small the player base is and predictably how much it's going to decrease soon, CCP should be focusing on encouraging players to enjoy their game time and play how they want, not fretting over how hard they just got hit with a nerf hammer.
If a person is not a front line fighter and that's not how they want to play but the nerfs come along and make it so their build is no longer viable for mid to long range then why should they have to change? Because some elitist aholes think they sound tough when they say they don't need respecs? Everyone should have a means of playing the role they feel they want to and if the updates are going to take that role away from them again and again EVERY month from now on you'll see the player base drop out pretty fast and the elitists can just play with themselves.

Hey CCP I know I requested one a few weeks ago but we realy need a new Respec with the release of new vehicles and new classes; that way those of us who want to run that new class can, or want that new vehicle can as well ya know, please consider it

Does it really take that long to train something else up?

Capping out every week gives you >350k SP (>500k SP with boosters) a week.

Why all the screaming, why not just train the damn thing?

Or save up for the thing you want that isn't in game yet?

I feel for ya, but what you've said doesn't make sense.

What about when the pilot drops, or MTACs, or fighters?

There are always going to be new roles added, and new things to do. It simply would ruin the game to keep having respecs.

What you should have done was bank your sp. Spec minimally into heavy for now maybe. Maybe try out different suits knowing that you'll just keep it around as an alt. As an extreme choice, you could have just created a character and let the passive SP build up until the suits you want are in game.

The point is that no one is being forced into anything. You should also be diversifying your points anyway as some builds/roles will wax and wane in terms of power and utility. This is how real life works, and this is how New Eden works.

So, every time we get an update or every time we get a new vehicle/dropsuit etc........ you want a respec? Because 'oh think about the new people, think about those who want to spec into this new suit or vehicle, think of the children! Won't somebody please think of the children'.
Give me a f***ing break!!!!
There are always going to be new stuff added and there will always be expansions, if you want to spec into a possible future suit/vehicle......SAVE YOUR SP AND STOP WASTING IT TO SPEC INTO PROTO etc.
no more respecs, its getting ridiculous and I can't believe you even took the time to create a thread requesting such a thing. People are laughing at you.
again, there will be no more respecs.

No offence but even though i dont even use a vehicle and dont even want a respec the fact that they are introducing PILOT SUITS specifically for vehicle users makes it perfectly reasonable for them to ask for a respec, until now they have had no suit specifically for it and it isnt a matter of a new type of a particular suit .. it is a whole new suit class altogether specifically designed for vehicle users and seeing as this game is how old ? And how long have vehicles been around ? most ppl would have specced into various suits .. how can you expect ppl to wait around for a year for a suit to be introduced for their class ?? You are basically saying no one should use any SP ever incase they bring something out in the future, do you have any idea how stupid that is ?? In 2 years they will bring out x or Y so don't use your SP

I honestly have no idea why your so butthurt about someone asking for a respec or is it that your scared ppl will respec and kill you ?? If i'm honest it never bothered me if other ppl respecced i have my own play style and like my own way of doing things anyway and whilst i may accept that the idea of constant respeccing probably would annoy some ppl when we are talking about something like a Pilot suit for vehicle users I think it is completely justified

after all the racial suits come out ONE LAST respec then no more

You're new,or relatively new. Had you been around longer you would have seen the past requests for respec after respec after respec after respec.
New people joining and wanting respec so they could catch up to the vets, vets asking for respec because they wasted their sp and wanted another go at it, people wanting respec after each build, respec after new stuff added and so forth.
It gets boring seeing the same old threads over and over again. If you want to spec into a certain suit......GRIND for it!
If you don't want to grind.....buy boosters, if you don't want boosters and are not willing to put in the time to get YOURSELF to your required sp total........quit bitching

So, every time we get an update or every time we get a new vehicle/dropsuit etc........ you want a respec? Because 'oh think about the new people, think about those who want to spec into this new suit or vehicle, think of the children! Won't somebody please think of the children'.
Give me a f***ing break!!!!
There are always going to be new stuff added and there will always be expansions, if you want to spec into a possible future suit/vehicle......SAVE YOUR SP AND STOP WASTING IT TO SPEC INTO PROTO etc.
no more respecs, its getting ridiculous and I can't believe you even took the time to create a thread requesting such a thing. People are laughing at you.
again, there will be no more respecs.

People who want respecs (all concerns on respecs aside.....)

We have like 5 threads a day on this topic. There really is no need for any other threads. Really. You are not saying anything new..... YOU starting a thread isn't going to push CCP over the end on the respecs.

Thanks. No, really. Thank-you. Thank-you very much for beating down my already completely, ridiculuously, disturbingly, inhumanly low expectations for common sense in my fellow man.

Just, um, i don't know, revive an old thread with a +1?? It's not like they are hard to find....

Dude none are still up, searched it up on the forum search bar, got nothing, so try again later

Dude none are still up, searched it up on the forum search bar, got nothing, so try again later

Wow like Pigs to mud lol got all of you, I knew there were hundreds of these so I posted one final one to bring all the jerks and rats outa there homes and what do ya know I found one that said himself he doesnt play, but he he still is on the forums, whata think guys good bad your choice ha ha ha

Wow like Pigs to mud lol got all of you, I knew there were hundreds of these so I posted one final one to bring all the jerks and rats outa there homes and what do ya know I found one that said himself he doesnt play, but he he still is on the forums, whata think guys good bad your choice ha ha ha

I completely agree. I'm honestly dieing (metaphorically, the metaphor meaning my want to play is diminishing) waiting for something outside of the fairly bland battlefield aspects we currently have. But being that I'm a fairly new player I don't even have a complete build, and I may have to start a new one. Most of the long term players I know just shrug as they have over double the SP I have and a minimum of 2 fully functioning builds.

If I had some PVE or even some administrative roles outside of the battlefield to keep me busy or give me an alternative way of earning isk and sp that would be fantastic but continuously spawning in with an incomplete build to feed the full protos constantly is pretty boring as far as gameplay goes.

I understand that New Eden is a unique and difficult place, but the FPS market is not unique and full of choices. Seeing as this is currently just another FPS and one that is lacking in mechanics versus the competition, making it easier for players who come from other games to bridge the gap might help out until there is some other viable content.

There should be a respec when new racial variants are added but not when new classes release.

I see the logic behind people hating respec in certain games, I however fail to see the reasoning in Dust. I know that people with 15 mil sp start to find it rather simple to move into other skill and diversify their character, and that is great. The way I see it is this game needs new blood though, and this game is changing frequently and can be confusing to a new player, why not allow that character to purchase a respec augmentation? hell make it cost aur. Will that new player suddenly dominate in PC at 3 mil sp cause he got a respec? Not a chance and we all know it, what may happen is that player will enjoy the game and stick around and reach PC ready and start progressing the game world.

You can stop returning isk spent on old spec, way of keeping players slightly more careful, they are going to have to buy most likely all new gear so that will add up and make respecs a do if needed thing, not an every 5 min luxury. This is a win win for CCP they can make money on something we know will sell, and players can have more freedom to make a character they enjoy to play. I would be happy to hear honest reasons why respecs would "break" the game, most of what i hear is just that once you have enough sp it does not matter or you should save up and essentially be restarting your character as you go. Face it, the game cannot survive without keeping the young guys playing and moving into PC ready SP areas, if respecs will help them do that I am all for it.

I am not meaning to attack either side of this debate I just really am confused on why so many people are against this being implemented.

My god, people seriously. CCP clearly stated long ago that there will be no more respecs. They are not giving it to you anymore unless something catastrophic happens with their server. Even Eve Online players, CCP's primary source of income, have only seen a single respec in their entire ten-year history. If CCP won't give respecs to them, then surely you can't expect Dust players to be any different.

And no, Eve's neural remaps don't count because SP is technically not being moved around.