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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.07.03 23:17:00 -
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dman the great wrote:Hey CCP I know I requested one a few weeks ago but we realy need a new Respec with the release of new vehicles and new classes; that way those of us who want to run that new class can, or want that new vehicle can as well ya know, please consider it
No more respecs are coming.
Bank your SP, diversify. |
Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.07.04 00:24:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:dman the great wrote:Hey CCP I know I requested one a few weeks ago but we realy need a new Respec with the release of new vehicles and new classes; that way those of us who want to run that new class can, or want that new vehicle can as well ya know, please consider it So, every time we get an update or every time we get a new vehicle/dropsuit etc........ you want a respec? Because 'oh think about the new people, think about those who want to spec into this new suit or vehicle, think of the children! Won't somebody please think of the children'. Give me a f***ing break!!!! There are always going to be new stuff added and there will always be expansions, if you want to spec into a possible future suit/vehicle......SAVE YOUR SP AND STOP WASTING IT TO SPEC INTO PROTO etc. no more respecs, its getting ridiculous and I can't believe you even took the time to create a thread requesting such a thing. People are laughing at you. again, there will be no more respecs.
I would give you a bunch more plusses if I could.
Sadly, I fear there will always be whiney babies who don't plan ahead.
Stay vigilant. |
Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.07.04 00:31:00 -
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KOBLAKA1 wrote:I dont think new content deserves respecs i believe racial vehicle/suits that are the same tier of what weer have now (ie minmatar HAV or Caldari light suit) deserve a respec. I love playing Heavy to do so i HAVE to spec amarr, i wanted to spec winmatar or possibly gallente once i see the suit i shouldn't have to dump millions of SP and just forget about the SP already spent on something that should be out already.
I also dont want a full respec, only the same tier stuff should get refunded. So amarr heavy=yes grenades or cor upgrades=no.
I feel for ya, but what you've said doesn't make sense.
What about when the pilot drops, or MTACs, or fighters?
There are always going to be new roles added, and new things to do. It simply would ruin the game to keep having respecs.
What you should have done was bank your sp. Spec minimally into heavy for now maybe. Maybe try out different suits knowing that you'll just keep it around as an alt. As an extreme choice, you could have just created a character and let the passive SP build up until the suits you want are in game.
The point is that no one is being forced into anything. You should also be diversifying your points anyway as some builds/roles will wax and wane in terms of power and utility. This is how real life works, and this is how New Eden works.
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.07.04 00:38:00 -
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Captain Wontubulous wrote:Respecs should practically be a purchasable commodity in this game with how the updates roll out. With how small the player base is and predictably how much it's going to decrease soon, CCP should be focusing on encouraging players to enjoy their game time and play how they want, not fretting over how hard they just got hit with a nerf hammer. If a person is not a front line fighter and that's not how they want to play but the nerfs come along and make it so their build is no longer viable for mid to long range then why should they have to change? Because some elitist aholes think they sound tough when they say they don't need respecs? Everyone should have a means of playing the role they feel they want to and if the updates are going to take that role away from them again and again EVERY month from now on you'll see the player base drop out pretty fast and the elitists can just play with themselves.
The thing is, we're talking about two different games. When I say no more respecs, I'm talking about a FPS set in New Eden. When you say SP would be meaningless, you're talking about just another COD/Battlefield clone.
I don't want to play your game. Maybe you don't want to play mine. Fine. We can agree to disagree, but honestly, respecs aren't going to keep players around. Having more content and a better matchmaker will do that.
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.07.04 00:49:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:The difference between racial dropsuits/vehicles and pilot dropsuits/jets/MTACs/etc is that the pilot dropsuits/MTACs/etc haven't been implemented where as scouts, heavies, Havs, Lavs, and dropships have been incompletely added.
Jets are new content. Cal scouts are missing content.
lol, so adding missing content isn't adding new content?
This makes no sense. |
Buster Friently
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Posted - 2013.07.04 00:55:00 -
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Captain Wontubulous wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Captain Wontubulous wrote:Respecs should practically be a purchasable commodity in this game with how the updates roll out. With how small the player base is and predictably how much it's going to decrease soon, CCP should be focusing on encouraging players to enjoy their game time and play how they want, not fretting over how hard they just got hit with a nerf hammer. If a person is not a front line fighter and that's not how they want to play but the nerfs come along and make it so their build is no longer viable for mid to long range then why should they have to change? Because some elitist aholes think they sound tough when they say they don't need respecs? Everyone should have a means of playing the role they feel they want to and if the updates are going to take that role away from them again and again EVERY month from now on you'll see the player base drop out pretty fast and the elitists can just play with themselves. The thing is, we're talking about two different games. When I say no more respecs, I'm talking about a FPS set in New Eden. When you say SP would be meaningless, you're talking about just another COD/Battlefield clone. I don't want to play your game. Maybe you don't want to play mine. Fine. We can agree to disagree, but honestly, respecs aren't going to keep players around. Having more content and a better matchmaker will do that. I completely agree. I'm honestly dieing (metaphorically, the metaphor meaning my want to play is diminishing) waiting for something outside of the fairly bland battlefield aspects we currently have. But being that I'm a fairly new player I don't even have a complete build, and I may have to start a new one. Most of the long term players I know just shrug as they have over double the SP I have and a minimum of 2 fully functioning builds. If I had some PVE or even some administrative roles outside of the battlefield to keep me busy or give me an alternative way of earning isk and sp that would be fantastic but continuously spawning in with an incomplete build to feed the full protos constantly is pretty boring as far as gameplay goes. I understand that New Eden is a unique and difficult place, but the FPS market is not unique and full of choices. Seeing as this is currently just another FPS and one that is lacking in mechanics versus the competition, making it easier for players who come from other games to bridge the gap might help out until there is some other viable content.
I would agree with what you said if it wasn't for the problem of precedent. As soon as CCP buckles about respecs, then there will be an even greater flood here begging for respecs because it's cloudy today. There is no way to go back with this sort of thing.
I think we should already have some PVE or more stuff to do precisely to mitigate the issues that you speak of. Also, I don't deny that a respec would help. The problem is you can't keep watering down the reasons for a new respec and keep the integrity of the game as "something different". Easier access to respecs will water the game down even before it gets the rest of the "new Eden" feel to it.
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