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Cyrille Fodeux
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.03 18:55:00 -
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It is ridiculous that a Support class Dropsuit gets so many High/Low Slots.
They give up:
1 Sidearm Slot
Some eHP
For this two things they get
2-3 Equipment Slots
1-2 High/Low Slots
More PG/CPU
Better Scan Precision
It would suit better if they would give up some High/Low Slots instead of the eHP. There should also be some other minor changes.
So the Logi should have if compared to the basic suit:
Less High/Low Slots
No Sidearm
More Equipment Slots
More PG/CPU
Higher Scan Radius (instead of Scan Precision)
Also as a general for Specializations should they cost more than the Basic Dropsuit and not less! |
Cyrille Fodeux
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.03 19:12:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Play logi and you'll realize that giving up a sidearm is a huge deal. Also, Minmatar logi had the exact same slot layout but with more HP in chrome, how come nobody complained about logis then? You must be one of those people who thinks all logis are OP or something. And last but not least, most of the class suits are cheaper than the basic frames. lolCommando doesn't count.
Chromosome doesn-¦t count here. There was just one Logi and the Assault was the Basic Frame. Nobody complained then because they had less PG/CPU then. They had to leave High/Low Slots empty to fill all Equipment Slots.
The Class Suits, how you call them, should not be cheaper. If you edit something it costs. Why should it be cheaper here? |
Cyrille Fodeux
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.03 19:34:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Except for the Caldari suit.
A logistic suit compared to a assault suit, even with that 1 extra slot we get, cannot get higher EHP than an assault suit because of the higher base EHP. The reason we have more CPU/PG is for equipment not for modules. I can build an assault with all proto modules, a proto weapon and a advanced equipment; I can also build a logistics suit with all proto modules, a advanced weapon and a mixture of advanced and proto equipment, even so I still have lower EHP than you, I am slower, and my weapon is weaker.
Let-¦s do some math:
The Gallente Proto Logi has 90+180 HP = 270 eHP
The Gallente Proto Assault has 120+210 HP = 330 eHP
The Logi has 5 Low Slots, the Assault 4:
270+5x115=845 + Speed Penalty
330+4x115=790 + Speed Penalty
The Speed Penalties are almost the same.
With Ferroscale Plates you get 570 for both.
No matter what you choose you will have the same penalties and outcome but the logi will have more PG/CPU left.
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Cyrille Fodeux
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.03 19:38:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Cyrille Fodeux wrote:Cosgar wrote:Play logi and you'll realize that giving up a sidearm is a huge deal. Also, Minmatar logi had the exact same slot layout but with more HP in chrome, how come nobody complained about logis then? You must be one of those people who thinks all logis are OP or something. And last but not least, most of the class suits are cheaper than the basic frames. lolCommando doesn't count. Chromosome doesn-¦t count here. There was just one Logi and the Assault was the Basic Frame. Nobody complained then because they had less PG/CPU then. They had to leave High/Low Slots empty to fill all Equipment Slots. The Class Suits, how you call them, should not be cheaper. If you edit something it costs. Why should it be cheaper here? You also forgot to add than our suits cost about 1.5x more than your suits because of equipment so our risk vs reward is a lot higher
You forgot that you get a lot more WP with Equipment with little risk. If you stay with some Assaults you always supply, revive or repair them. This are much more WP than an Assault earns. if you come with guys that do over 5k WP and no death -> Cal. Logi |
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