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Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:24:00 -
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8 people out of 16 sat in the MCC, AFK.
CCP fix your game, is it that hard to penalise those with - xp if they do not reach certain criteria within a game, things like distance traveled, shots fired or how about, controller sat untouched for 20 minutes...
You need to fix your actual game, not worry about taking the sentinel suit, turning it red and calling it a "new class".
while you at it, can we have a lis of all the secret stealth nerfs...please |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
401
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:35:00 -
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oddly enough they had an afk fix slated for uprising or so every thought heh.
it'll come eventually I suppose.I suggest avoiding skirmish all together it's always filled with afkers, but domination can be like that on Wednesdays as well. it's an ambush day imo. |
Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:36:00 -
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when the suits do.... |
SCAT mania
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:36:00 -
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i dont think any of the below would fix the issue
distance traveled, .. peeps would just run around the mcc,
shots fired,... lay down a nanohive and start shootinfg the wall
controller sat untouched for 20 minutes.. get an elastic band and wrap it around your controller till u start spinning around in 1 spot.
only way they could fix it imo is to have no rewards for sitting in the redline or mcc |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:38:00 -
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No SP/ISK and weapon locks in redzone would fix it. |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
200
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:39:00 -
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SCAT mania wrote:
only way they could fix it imo is to have no rewards for sitting in the redline or mcc
If they did that half the playerbase would quit once they could no longer manufacture SP being a scrub.
So it isn't going to happen. If you didn't reward special Ed's for being worthless, we wouldn't have people in the servers for half the day. |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
31
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:40:00 -
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Removing all reward in the Redline could be a bit harsh, but removing the sp for time spent in battle could work. That way you could still get some WPs when your team get redlined hard.
So when you are in the redline you would get the same amount of sp as when you already hit your cap |
Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:42:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:No SP/ISK and weapon locks in redzone would fix it.
NO, snipers need the redline more than ever now, we got a magical stealth nerf, plus movement/ performance improvements have thrown off hit detection for us again. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:43:00 -
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no sp or isk while in the red zone woul be stupid, because teams get red zones all the time, sometimes 1 minute after the match starts.
with no forfeit option or early ending option, the rest of that game would be a waste, and I for one would drop out immediately. leaving the winning team to sit on their asses for 15 minutes
kicking players out of the mcc would only go so far as well since there are places to afk not in the red zone as well as in it.
the simple fix is to make it 100% war points based, the time based thing just accommodates afkers, save that kicking players out of the mcc would at the least make it less obvious when players are afking. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:45:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:No SP/ISK and weapon locks in redzone would fix it. NO, snipers need the redline more than ever now, we got a magical stealth nerf, plus movement/ performance improvements have thrown off hit detection for us again.
what?
i'll admit people are lag snapping more then usual at extreme far range, but it's far smoother at long range then it used to be.
I had one of my best sniping days in a long time yesterday. |
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Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T
EoN.
325
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:48:00 -
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I just did it in the last match, sniping at a guy running right at me, 3 quick fire shots, perfect hits 1 counter other 2 flared. Happens all the time.
Pre 1.2 I could render people at 580m, now 487 is the logest I have managed. |
Declan Dayne
Abandoned Privilege
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:49:00 -
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I agree. My hit detection while sniping is far better now. |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:51:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:No SP/ISK and weapon locks in redzone would fix it.
But that would mean i couldn't torment allied red line snipers by shooting there heads |
SCAT mania
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
310
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:53:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:SCAT mania wrote:
only way they could fix it imo is to have no rewards for sitting in the redline or mcc
If they did that half the playerbase would quit once they could no longer manufacture SP being a scrub. So it isn't going to happen. If you didn't reward special Ed's for being worthless, we wouldn't have people in the servers for half the day.
but whats the difference? if we got 5000 peeps online but only half are actually playin the game. would we not be better off losing those scrubs and actually getting proper fights 16 v 16.
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:56:00 -
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SCAT mania wrote:The Attorney General wrote:SCAT mania wrote:
only way they could fix it imo is to have no rewards for sitting in the redline or mcc
If they did that half the playerbase would quit once they could no longer manufacture SP being a scrub. So it isn't going to happen. If you didn't reward special Ed's for being worthless, we wouldn't have people in the servers for half the day. but whats the difference? if we got 5000 peeps online but only half are actually playin the game. would we not be better off losing those scrubs and actually getting proper fights 16 v 16.
indeed, thoguh if the scrubs are buying boosters they are at least good for something, they would then be supporting th game, and be golden scrubs. |
We are 138
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:59:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:SCAT mania wrote:
only way they could fix it imo is to have no rewards for sitting in the redline or mcc
If they did that half the playerbase would quit once they could no longer manufacture SP being a scrub. So it isn't going to happen. If you didn't reward special Ed's for being worthless, we wouldn't have people in the servers for half the day.
Sadly this is true 100% they don't care that they are hurting teams that want to win they just want to be the best with out working for it. The only ones I semi forgive are the vets that have been playing this game since closed beta. They have kinda paid their dues. that being said I think they should all get together band go qsync into a fw battle so there can be 32 of them in the same place not playing the game. Hint hint go make channel called AFK and go do nothing together |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:01:00 -
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We are 138 wrote:The Attorney General wrote:SCAT mania wrote:
only way they could fix it imo is to have no rewards for sitting in the redline or mcc
If they did that half the playerbase would quit once they could no longer manufacture SP being a scrub. So it isn't going to happen. If you didn't reward special Ed's for being worthless, we wouldn't have people in the servers for half the day. Sadly this is true 100% they don't care that they are hurting teams that want to win they just want to be the best with out working for it. The only ones I semi forgive are the vets that have been playing this game since closed beta. They have kinda paid their dues. that being said I think they should all get together band go qsync into a fw battle so there can be 32 of them in the same place not playing the game. Hint hint go make channel called AFK and go do nothing together
if I afked or felt like afking I'd simpyl do it on the oceanic server, it's dead anyway and IMO should be labeled as the afk server ^^ |
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
217
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:04:00 -
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What I think CCP should do is give no SP for time spent outside the field of battle. So spend the entire match in MCC no SP, entire match behind Redline sniping with a sniper or tank no SP. Unfortunately people will still be able to AFK but they will have to spawn and enter the field of battle find somewhere to hide. I my opinion someone who's sniper behind the trendline doesn't deserve any points because they aren't in the field of battle, let them have their kills and kdr just no points. |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
201
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:05:00 -
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SCAT mania wrote:
but whats the difference? if we got 5000 peeps online but only half are actually playin the game. would we not be better off losing those scrubs and actually getting proper fights 16 v 16.
Honestly, I am all for tying SP to WP.
Would make it a heck of a lot harder for bad players to be anything but bad.
Most of the people who play this game don't get anywhere near the WP cap in a match, and those people need the hand out otherwise they would do nothing but get stomped, until they got through their first year and the passive finally gave them a character that wasn't worthless.
Getting more than a 1000 WP is a certainty for me, and even on my heavy character getting those WP isn't too difficult. For a new sniper, trying to get 1000 WP is going to seem like climbing everest. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
4300
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:06:00 -
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Stop letting people spawn in the MCC until its fixed.
Simple. |
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SCAT mania
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
310
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:20:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:SCAT mania wrote:
but whats the difference? if we got 5000 peeps online but only half are actually playin the game. would we not be better off losing those scrubs and actually getting proper fights 16 v 16.
Honestly, I am all for tying SP to WP. Would make it a heck of a lot harder for bad players to be anything but bad. Most of the people who play this game don't get anywhere near the WP cap in a match, and those people need the hand out otherwise they would do nothing but get stomped, until they got through their first year and the passive finally gave them a character that wasn't worthless. Getting more than a 1000 WP is a certainty for me, and even on my heavy character getting those WP isn't too difficult. For a new sniper, trying to get 1000 WP is going to seem like climbing everest.
Fair enough. i can understand that. id say the biggest problem then is match making, as so many has said before me. put players in with their own tier of players and it stops the stomping, more fun, less afkin (as there will always be some)
also oceanic server idea is great |
Sergeant Wiznowski
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
55
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:22:00 -
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Or increase SP gains per match by 100% at least.
Twice less AFK-ers in games plus additional bonuses of actually playing and enjoying the game not working in coal mine.
General public can play at max for 2-3 hours 4-6 days a week. That leaves them with anything between 30-90K SP "lost" hence AFK when they cannot play. Fix the grinding issue first. |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1114
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:28:00 -
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If it were tied to people being in the red-zone, everyone that actually bothers struggling after they get redlined gets penalized for being stomped. It would mean it would be smarter to just quit the game at that point - it would save you time.
If it's tied to WP, that penalizes doing things that don't really provide an SP reward: dropship pilots, counter-hacking, etc. Why fly a dropship for your team if the 100 WP you have at the end of the winning match screws you over on SP?
If every act were properly incentivized with WP, then that sort of system might make sense. If it's just a matter of "Pubstomp = tons of SP", then the SP gap between older and newer players will get bigger quicker. |
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