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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 4655	Posted - 2013.07.03 11:19:00 - [1] - Quote CCP Remnant wrote: The idea being that each race will have it's base variant be Assault, (Gallente) Burst (Minmatar), Breach (Caldari) or Tactical (Amarr) and then the variants are a specific race's take on the others using their own tech. So, you'd get an Assault Rail Rifle that attempts to somewhat mimic the behavior of the Gallente Assault Rifle and a Tactical Assault Rifle that attempts to mimic the Amarr Scrambler Rifle and so on. From here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=870299#post870299 So in light of this, when will be getting burst (mimic Minmatar) and breach (mimic Caldari) scrambler rifle variants to have the full variant set like the ARs? right now the scrambler rifles only have the assault variant. Also, the operation skill bonus of the AR benefits all the variants, while the operation skill bonus of the scrambler rifle is only useful for the charge variant; that is a bad design choice.
Your Absolut End Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder. 104	Posted - 2013.07.03 11:24:00 - [2] - Quote No worries, with the new shooting mechanics the scrambler rifle is most of the times quiet useless, just take the assault and there you go lol
semperfi1999 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 557	Posted - 2013.07.03 13:46:00 - [3] - Quote Yup.......I have been rocking the Imp scrambler for a while now and know how to use it very effectively.....hopped on yesterday and barely any hits are registering. I even used the charge shot against an enemy that was not moving and was very close to me......I got a hit marker but it did 0 dmg. I took on a heavy at point blank with him only having 1/2 of his armor HP left and no shields (imp scrambler should eat this up fast)......I ended up shooting 15 rounds into him (~70 dmg per shot to armor) and then meleeing him and the only dmg that was counted was the melee. The hit detection for the charged scrambler was completely FUBARed.........on a positive note the assault scrambler hit detection appeared to be 100% so I guess I know what I will be using now.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1114	Posted - 2013.07.03 14:07:00 - [4] - Quote It's not entirely clear, but I hear the Optimal/Max on the TAR is still higher than the Imperial Scrambler.
Aizen Intiki Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 23	Posted - 2013.07.03 14:09:00 - [5] - Quote Wait, Railguns having less range then blasters? no wonder this game's so ****** up; the team behind it can't even get their facts straight......
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1114	Posted - 2013.07.03 14:13:00 - [6] - Quote The TAR-blaster is the longest range of the ARs we've seen so far. The Pulse Laser is shorter than that. The railgun will be breach, and the combat rifle will be... who knows range-wise. It's all sorts of messed up lore-wise.
Aizen Intiki Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 23	Posted - 2013.07.03 14:15:00 - [7] - Quote It should go rail rifle, Laser RIfle, Scrambler Rifle, Combat Rifle, Plasma Rifle. Why can't they figure that out?
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1114	Posted - 2013.07.03 14:21:00 - [8] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: It should go rail rifle, Laser RIfle, Scrambler Rifle, Combat Rifle, Plasma Rifle. Why can't they figure that out? They really like Gallente? The ranges seem to look like: 65 optimal 100 max TAR and 50 optimal 87 max Imp Scrambler That gives the TAR 30% better optimal and 15% more max range. Maybe they're going to change EVE so blasters out-range and out-damage everything. That'd be pretty cool.
Oso Peresoso RisingSuns 89	Posted - 2013.07.03 14:29:00 - [9] - Quote CCP Remnant wrote: The idea being that each race will have it's base variant be Assault, (Gallente) Burst (Minmatar), Breach (Caldari) or Tactical (Amarr) and then the variants are a specific race's take on the others using their own tech. So, you'd get an Assault Rail Rifle that attempts to somewhat mimic the behavior of the Gallente Assault Rifle and a Tactical Assault Rifle that attempts to mimic the Amarr Scrambler Rifle and so on. This is a bit wierd. Some of the variants would seem a bit nonsensical, like breach sniper rifle (maybe decreased scope sway when standing in exchange for lower effective range?) And what would a tactical mass driver be? or a burst laser rifle?
Aizen Intiki Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 24	Posted - 2013.07.03 14:32:00 - [10] - Quote It'd be OP and pretty much every Cap who does combat would quit. Every. Last. One. After, every last other role would start to quit. the game revolves around combat pilots dying. but if 3/4's of people die because of something that OP, you'd best believe they would start quitting.

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 4659	Posted - 2013.07.03 19:38:00 - [11] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: Wait, Railguns having less range then blasters? no wonder this game's so **** up; the team behind it can't even get their facts straight...... They described the rail rifle as like the breach, but higher range. Railguns have high range. CCP Remnant wrote:** Assault Rifle (Hybrid - Plasma) - short range Combat Rifle (Projectile - Autocannon) - short-mid range Scrambler Rifle (Laser - Pulse) - mid range Rail Rifle (Hybrid - Railgun) - long range https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=869944#post869944
Aizen Intiki Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 27	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:13:00 - [12] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: Wait, Railguns having less range then blasters? no wonder this game's so **** up; the team behind it can't even get their facts straight...... They described the rail rifle as like the breach, but higher range. Railguns have high range. CCP Remnant wrote:** Assault Rifle (Hybrid - Plasma) - short range Combat Rifle (Projectile - Autocannon) - short-mid range Scrambler Rifle (Laser - Pulse) - mid range Rail Rifle (Hybrid - Railgun) - long range https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=869944#post869944 Okay, that makes more sense, he could have said that a breach but with rial range, and it would've made sense.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 4661	Posted - 2013.07.03 22:14:00 - [13] - Quote Still wanting an ETA
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 4662	Posted - 2013.07.04 01:32:00 - [14] - Quote Wolfman, I summon you!
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 4662	Posted - 2013.07.04 06:06:00 - [15] - Quote Remnant will also do
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 5504	Posted - 2013.08.21 20:33:00 - [16] - Quote Did they just forget?


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