DUST Search - COMMANDOS - People are just missing the point

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

SoTa PoP wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

SoTa PoP wrote:

Sorry but commando's suck. HMG > Commando

Thanks for makin' sure they have a big hitbox so my hits land easier ;)

I dont know who you play agains or with , but in my world AR > HMG

There by AR + SWARM > HMG

There by , Commandos > Heavies since they are both gargantuan in size...

Your world is small - expand it a bit. Because in mine if you get in my optimal your trash. And if you get range I'll call my logi-lav and make you feel even more like trash. And if you think swarms is your answer think again - they blow vs shield and I'd of closed the gap before 2 volleys are used.

Commando's blow - their only use in PC will be as starting suits for the AV/AR/Dropup link combo.

You are judging a suit that 1st, YOU DONT HAVE.
2nd , hasnt been out for more than 24 hrs.
3rd , wow you LOGI LAV like that makes a difference... thats so OP that not even FG can take them out, i could run your *ss over with the same LOGI LAV, so dont brag about BROKEN STUFF here.
4th. I like how you call me TRASH since you've never even played against me
5th im not saying that commandos are the BEST.Just saying that is because of people like you that people don't even want to give them a try.

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KING CHECKMATE A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 149	Posted - 2013.07.03 02:52:00 - [1] - Quote NOT saying here that commandos are the si. But people are to quick to judge a dropsuit as bad when not even 24hs have passed. a suit that at level 4 of passive dropsuit upgrades caries 600 total HP WITHOUT including dropsuit modules... c'mon. PLUS the fact that since HMG are still kind of crappy this will become the new heavy. The OPness of 2 Light weapons is still to be tested by many players. PLUS YOu get 2 high powered slots, just enough to get 1 complex shield Ext (+90 shields at proto level) and 1 Complex Light weapon damage mod that of course, affects BOTH of your weapons. AR + SWARMS: Be the assault you've always wanted but with something to fight back vs LAV's,tanks and Dropships. TAC AR + AR: Be the best at both Mid ranges ranges. SNIPER RIFLES + SWARM: Snipe enemy units, bomb enemy vehicles. Nothing you cant kill at a distance. SNIPER + AR: Snipe enemy units and if they get close, you are STILL PACKING 650+HP AND A AR WITH COMPLEX DM MOD XD MASS D + AR: Bomb from afar, nail from mid close. This combinations offers the best for both Support Fire and precise fire. LASER + AR: Pretty much self explanatory. etcetc.... You think you are still slow? Put on a COMPLEX KINETIC CTLZ and run as fast as assaults. Worried that you dont have Armor rep? Use Repair NANO-HIVES, repairing you armor AND restocking your ammo at the same time. This IF the enemy can drill through your 300-470 shields.... The grenade slot is a Shame, but i think the equipment slot is more important in this case. The only problem im seeing with the commandos is that they ARE a little overpriced...But consideringhow LITTLE you can actually equip on it there by increasing the price, i think around 70k would be fair. Other than that, lets wait before making a judgment.
Aoena Rays Bragian Order Amarr Empire 245	Posted - 2013.07.03 02:57:00 - [2] - Quote Grenade slot is the thing you have to deal with. It is niche role, and you should not play it if you can't handle missing grenade. Other than that, it is very versatile role and I am loving it so far.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 647	Posted - 2013.07.03 02:59:00 - [3] - Quote They do some pretty wicked melee damage too.
Deltahawk Durango DUST University Ivy League 8	Posted - 2013.07.03 03:01:00 - [4] - Quote why would i go commando if i can't play with my massive forge gun and nades.... giggidy...
KING CHECKMATE A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 149	Posted - 2013.07.03 03:02:00 - [5] - Quote Deltahawk Durango wrote: why would i go commando if i can't play with my massive forge gun and nades.... giggidy... AR+ SWARM+movement+equip slot
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 68	Posted - 2013.07.03 03:03:00 - [6] - Quote Commando is the new all around assault? Logis don't count. They're a tier above everything else.
KING CHECKMATE A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 149	Posted - 2013.07.03 03:07:00 - [7] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Commando is the new all around assault? Logis don't count. They're a tier above everything else. I think they are a very good suit. a tier higher than heavies and Scouts but under logis. Maybe the same as assaults....
KING CHECKMATE A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 149	Posted - 2013.07.03 03:17:00 - [8] - Quote Im gonna be honest, if i wasnt already HALF way through getting my Proto CAL LOGI , i would go COMMANDO. But since CCP wont give us another RESPEC i wont.... Commandos = adaptability in Weapons dept. I would probably run : AR + Swarms. SNIPE + SWARMS S.Rifle + Swarms Sadly ,even with Complex Kinetic C. i dont think commados are suited for shotgun use.... AR + Shotgun would have been godlike...
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 3077	Posted - 2013.07.03 03:19:00 - [9] - Quote Sorry but commando's suck. HMG > Commando Thanks for makin' sure they have a big hitbox so my hits land easier ;)
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 486	Posted - 2013.07.03 03:22:00 - [10] - Quote Scrub suit is as Scrub suit does.

LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 70	Posted - 2013.07.03 03:22:00 - [11] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: so my hits land easier ;) My HMG hits land easier on everything now.
KING CHECKMATE A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 149	Posted - 2013.07.03 03:22:00 - [12] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Sorry but commando's suck. HMG > Commando Thanks for makin' sure they have a big hitbox so my hits land easier ;) I dont know who you play agains or with , but in my world AR > HMG There by AR + SWARM > HMG There by , Commandos > Heavies since they are both gargantuan in size getting head-shots vs heavies is now easier than ever....
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 3077	Posted - 2013.07.03 03:24:00 - [13] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Sorry but commando's suck. HMG > Commando Thanks for makin' sure they have a big hitbox so my hits land easier ;) I dont know who you play agains or with , but in my world AR > HMG There by AR + SWARM > HMG There by , Commandos > Heavies since they are both gargantuan in size... Your world is small - expand it a bit. Because in mine if you get in my optimal your trash. And if you get range I'll call my logi-lav and make you feel even more like trash. And if you think swarms is your answer think again - they blow vs shield and I'd of closed the gap before 2 volleys are used. Commando's blow - their only use in PC will be as starting suits for the AV/AR/Dropup link combo.
KING CHECKMATE A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 149	Posted - 2013.07.03 03:27:00 - [14] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Sorry but commando's suck. HMG > Commando Thanks for makin' sure they have a big hitbox so my hits land easier ;) I dont know who you play agains or with , but in my world AR > HMG There by AR + SWARM > HMG There by , Commandos > Heavies since they are both gargantuan in size... Your world is small - expand it a bit. Because in mine if you get in my optimal your trash. And if you get range I'll call my logi-lav and make you feel even more like trash. And if you think swarms is your answer think again - they blow vs shield and I'd of closed the gap before 2 volleys are used. Commando's blow - their only use in PC will be as starting suits for the AV/AR/Dropup link combo. You are judging a suit that 1st, YOU DONT HAVE. 2nd , hasnt been out for more than 24 hrs. 3rd , wow you LOGI LAV like that makes a difference thats so OP tahn not even FG can take them out, i could run your *ss over with the same LOGI LAV, so dont brag about BROKEN STUFF here. 4th. I liek how you call me TRASH sinceyou've never even played against me 5th. I will never get in your optimal, cuz you are gonna be dead by DUVOLLE AR + 2 COMX DM MODS + POF 5 before you even notice im there.
Schalac 17 Dedicated Individuals Committed to Killing 286	Posted - 2013.07.03 03:37:00 - [15] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Sorry but commando's suck. HMG > Commando Thanks for makin' sure they have a big hitbox so my hits land easier ;) I dont know who you play agains or with , but in my world AR > HMG There by AR + SWARM > HMG There by , Commandos > Heavies since they are both gargantuan in size... Your world is small - expand it a bit. Because in mine if you get in my optimal your trash. And if you get range I'll call my logi-lav and make you feel even more like trash. And if you think swarms is your answer think again - they blow vs shield and I'd of closed the gap before 2 volleys are used. Commando's blow - their only use in PC will be as starting suits for the AV/AR/Dropup link combo. You are judging a suit that 1st, YOU DONT HAVE. 2nd , hasnt been out for more than 24 hrs. 3rd , wow you LOGI LAV like that makes a difference... thats so OP that not even FG can take them out, i could run your *ss over with the same LOGI LAV, so dont brag about BROKEN STUFF here. 4th. I like how you call me TRASH since you've never even played against me 5th im not saying that commandos are the BEST.Just saying that is because of people like you that people don't even want to give them a try. If people don't try something because of what other people say they are trash. Also commando is trash, hey CCP how about we get the other heavy suits instead of a new class of trash. Plus you are in A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S., so you are trash and so is your opinion.
KING CHECKMATE A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 149	Posted - 2013.07.03 03:53:00 - [16] - Quote LOL @ my corp having anything to do with my opinion. Immature people like you don't deserve my attention.
negative49er The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 35	Posted - 2013.07.03 04:05:00 - [17] - Quote The proto Commando is ok, it just the STD and Advance that are ridiculous.
Aoena Rays Bragian Order Amarr Empire 246	Posted - 2013.07.03 04:07:00 - [18] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Sorry but commando's suck. HMG > Commando HMG > Commando? What is next, Laser rifle > Scout, or Scrambler Rifle > Logi? I don't get the comparison, but whatever floats your boat bro.
Kiro Justice Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION 155	Posted - 2013.07.03 04:11:00 - [19] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: LOL @ my corp having anything to do with my opinion. Immature people like you don't deserve my attention. Your corp IS pretty trashy though...
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 3077	Posted - 2013.07.03 04:12:00 - [20] - Quote Aoena Rays wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Sorry but commando's suck. HMG > Commando HMG > Commando? What is next, Laser rifle > Scout, or Scrambler Rifle > Logi? I don't get the comparison, but whatever floats your boat bro. How can you not get the comparison? Commando is a heavy that can't use HMG yet has all the draw backs of the suit. AR isn't going to save it from sucking because current AR heavies can't even do it with more mods and health. And boats SHOULD float. You're dumb and should feel dumb

KING CHECKMATE A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 150	Posted - 2013.07.03 04:19:00 - [21] - Quote Kiro Justice wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: LOL @ my corp having anything to do with my opinion. Immature people like you don't deserve my attention. Your corp IS pretty trashy though... whetever you say bro, at least you HAVE heard of my corp, unlike yours... i dont even know who you guys are.... And you are still immature for thinking it has anything to do with me posting a positive point of view on a new dropsuit.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4272	Posted - 2013.07.03 04:21:00 - [22] - Quote I look at it this way. In the vast majority of my matches, I run an advanced basic heavy frame with a Gek AR and my other goodies. I very rarely need to drop to my sidearm, let alone switch out a weapon type. While yes, the added versatility is nice to have, it comes at a terrible cost. I don't tank, so I work at about 1000 EHP. I'm easy to hit, especially with the range system FINALLY working (tyvm everyone, awesome work), and I rely heavily on my build to fit to this particular playstyle. While yes, I agree that we haven't seen enough actual Commando's out on the field yet, they are going to fall hard in the fact that they're trying too hard to be medium suits, and drifting ever further away from the philosophy that was the HEAVY of old. It's still very easy to hit, and losing the grenade slot....that's the best part of DUST for me, so even if this suit ends up being amazing somehow....I couldn't bring myself to play it :/ I <3 boom booms Ain't not never take ma booms booms. ::cooks grenade:: You may want to move .... ::grenade explodes in his hand:: What, did you really think I would commit suicide in a public area? I'm a Heavy, not a Commandon't Besides, that's strictly prohibited, and CONCORD are meanies...
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers EoN. 137	Posted - 2013.07.03 04:23:00 - [23] - Quote Why would you sacrifice your most PG-for-value slot (Gernade), when you can already equip a core flaylock in a sidearm slot (negating the benefit of being able to choose from light weapons)? It is too slow to be an effective swarm fit, too slow to be a good drop link class, too slow for nanite injector, The inability to equip a gernade limits the usefulness of nanohives Too little PG to equip two proto weapons and a proto equipment slot. Too few low slots to equip CPU/PG mods that would be essential for making up for the atrocious base stats It is a faster heavy (with a lot less HP)that wastes time with two light weapon slots instead of going HMG/Flaylock. It has the added addition of having an equipment slot, so that it can do things that other classes in your squad can already do better. The melee damage is pimp though. I can imagine commandos pulling out a large cane with a ruby at the top, and smaking people upside the head with it. Giant hitbox....
KING CHECKMATE A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 150	Posted - 2013.07.03 04:24:00 - [24] - Quote I agree. Maybe commandos do need to raise their base Armor and shield to 325 for it to be worth it, since Logis and Assault can STILL tank better being medium..... At level 5 passive dropsuit enhancements a Commando would have at least 810 total HP making it worth calling heavy. PLUS BEING AMARR thy should have a PG/CPU increase.
DeadlyAztec11 Max-Pain-inc 617	Posted - 2013.07.03 04:53:00 - [25] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: Why would you sacrifice your most PG-for-value slot (Gernade), when you can already equip a core flaylock in a sidearm slot (negating the benefit of being able to choose from light weapons)? It is too slow to be an effective swarm fit, too slow to be a good drop link class, too slow for nanite injector, The inability to equip a gernade limits the usefulness of nanohives Too little PG to equip two proto weapons and a proto equipment slot. Too few low slots to equip CPU/PG mods that would be essential for making up for the atrocious base stats It is a faster heavy (with a lot less HP)that wastes time with two light weapon slots instead of going HMG/Flaylock. It has the added addition of having an equipment slot, so that it can do things that other classes in your squad can already do better. The melee damage is pimp though. I can imagine commandos pulling out a large cane with a ruby at the top, and smaking people upside the head with it. Giant hitbox.... I agree with you Fiddles, this suit will only be able to do stuff in a 'ok' manner. The only thing they could possible do well is snipe. Though, even at this, they will not be as good as a scout suit because their profile is huge. Minmatar Assault is a way better Swarm fit, add any sidearm and you will BEAST! Medium Assault suits and logi suits, will still be the best assault suits. To be honest, I don't really see an effective niche for this suit. That said, if you can work it, more power to you.
2100 Angels The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 151	Posted - 2013.07.03 05:01:00 - [26] - Quote The commando is a trap. You will end up putting sp into a variety of different things instead of just one. Specialisation leads to success!
KOBLAKA1 Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 181	Posted - 2013.07.03 05:31:00 - [27] - Quote OP is both right and wrong... This suit will never replace the heavy it sucks in brawls. It does have a niche role as a headhunter. It was made for the LLAV (cuz who uses scout). Cruise around the battlefield ninja hacking and running dudes over. Wait a loner in a place your LAV can't go good thing you have an AR and a decent chuck (IT IS ONLY DECENT NOT GOOD heavies sit at 1012 base ehp and arent in any way OP) of ehp. 1v1 and its not a proto assault or heavy you should win. Wait some other LAV or vehicle giving you problems while doing the aforementioned? Get out and swarm him then nanonhive and continue mission. Also it probably good for tower defense 514 but thats not my playstyle. Edit: It will never win 1v1 against an assault unless that assault sucks, and you arent that fast and don't have mobility.


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