DUST Search - My 1.2 opinions from a heavies standpoint.

N1ck Comeau wrote:

So far i'm liking 1.2. The game feels a lot smoother, and the new options added are nice.

List of pros

Hmg can hit from a distance now, not doing much damage but can scare an enemy off.

Snowy maps are really cool. Wish it fell from the sky though.

Logout option is very convenient.

Frames per second seems to be 30 or more at times.

Aiming is much smoother.

market looks different but in a good way.

Lav's are slower so av has more time to react.

New performance options are nice to have.

AV now shows how much direct hit damage it does.

Splash damage seems fixed. Maybe some MD user can confirm.

texture loading time is improved.

Headshot noise is cool. Can be loud, i believe turning music volume down will make it better.

Increased RDV deployment speed and improved the intelligence of the RDV AI. (Awesome change.)

Cons

Shield recharger new module thing requires no skill points?

Saga II is miles better than Sega I and requires no skill points and is cheaper.

Shields are still better than armour, new armour mods quite useless.

Matchmaking is still bad. You're either dominating or getting wrecked

The better hit detection gives scouts an even harder time to move.

Close quarters combat is still a little iffy. But better than it was before.

Still don't have all the racial suits, maybe next update?

Still some minor bugs, including getting Dc'd.

LAV's are still a problem.

Caldari Logi still rules supreme on the battlefield

All in all a pretty solid update. New feature like the logout and the performance tuning are nice. Items needing balancing is still an issue, Shields are still better than armour instead of being around the same and making it more of a personal choice not an obvious one. New ranges are really cool. i give this update an 8.5 out of ten

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N1ck Comeau Pro Hic Immortalis 566	Posted - 2013.07.02 19:38:00 - [1] - Quote So far i'm liking 1.2. The game feels a lot smoother, and the new options added are nice. List of pros Hmg can hit from a distance now, not doing much damage but can scare an enemy off. Snowy maps are really cool. Wish it fell from the sky though. Logout option is very convenient. Frames per second seems to be 30 or more at times. Aiming is much smoother. market looks different but in a good way. Lav's are slower so av has more time to react. New performance options are nice to have. AV now shows how much direct hit damage it does. Splash damage seems fixed. Maybe some MD user can confirm. texture loading time is improved. Headshot noise is cool. Can be loud, i believe turning music volume down will make it better. Cons Shield recharger new module thing requires no skills? Saga II is miles better than Sega I and requires no skills and is cheaper. Shields are still better than armour, new armour mods quite useless. Matchmaking is still bad. You're either dominating or getting wrecked The better hit detection gives scouts an even harder time to move. Close quarters combat is still a little iffy. But better than it was before. Still don't have all the racial suits, maybe next update? Still some minor bugs, including getting Dc'd. LAV's are still a problem. Caldari Logi still rules supreme on the battlefield All in all a pretty solid update. New feature like the logout and the performance tuning are nice. Items needing balancing is still an issue, Shields are still better than armour instead of being around the same and making it more of a personal choice not an obvious one. New ranges are really cool. i give this update an 8.5 out of ten
N1ck Comeau Pro Hic Immortalis 568	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:44:00 - [2] - Quote anybody else got anything to add?
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 19	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:47:00 - [3] - Quote seems like theres alot more pro's then con's ccp may be on the right tack good job ccp
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. League of Infamy 28	Posted - 2013.07.02 20:52:00 - [4] - Quote Good review from another heavy, I like the sound of this! Havent played yet so nothing to add.. but thanks for your post.
Cody Sietz Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION 327	Posted - 2013.07.02 21:19:00 - [5] - Quote Spot on. This is a solid frame and I believe things will only get better. I think we will see a few changes (and maybe even minor new content) before the next patch. Hotfixes for the win!
N1ck Comeau Pro Hic Immortalis 570	Posted - 2013.07.02 21:22:00 - [6] - Quote I'm liking monthly content drops. Good work CCP. :)
RA Drahcir Psygod9 RISE of LEGION 4	Posted - 2013.07.02 21:40:00 - [7] - Quote Heavy's are still waiting on a buff...just keep believing and maybe it will happen, till then, Logis are the new heavys
hooc roht Deep Space Republic Top Men. 165	Posted - 2013.07.02 21:42:00 - [8] - Quote If you mean skill points say "skill points" not "skill" Their meaning is exactly opposite of each other.
N1ck Comeau Pro Hic Immortalis 571	Posted - 2013.07.02 21:44:00 - [9] - Quote hooc roht wrote: If you mean skill points say "skill points" not "skill" Their meaning is exactly opposite of each other. Fixed. My apologies.
N1ck Comeau Pro Hic Immortalis 572	Posted - 2013.07.02 21:55:00 - [10] - Quote anyone know if splash is fixed?

Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1045	Posted - 2013.07.02 22:01:00 - [11] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: anybody else got anything to add? Racial suits were never intended for this release.
N1ck Comeau Pro Hic Immortalis 573	Posted - 2013.07.03 00:04:00 - [12] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: anybody else got anything to add? Racial suits were never intended for this release. I know, but still heavies still have the short straw.
Eris Ernaga Super Nerds 259	Posted - 2013.07.03 00:05:00 - [13] - Quote Can't agree with all the cons.
TheMarkOf22 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 235	Posted - 2013.07.03 00:07:00 - [14] - Quote 30 fps or more? LOL can't be srs...
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1293	Posted - 2013.07.03 00:08:00 - [15] - Quote TheMarkOf22 wrote: 30 fps or more? LOL can't be srs... Except many people have said that they've had large improvements in their FPS.
N1ck Comeau Pro Hic Immortalis 574	Posted - 2013.07.03 00:08:00 - [16] - Quote Eris Ernaga wrote: Can't agree with all the cons. Explain?
N1ck Comeau Pro Hic Immortalis 574	Posted - 2013.07.03 00:08:00 - [17] - Quote TheMarkOf22 wrote: 30 fps or more? LOL can't be srs... it's true
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2998	Posted - 2013.07.03 00:21:00 - [18] - Quote Sounds like CCP did a decent job if the heavies are liking it.
Deltahawk Durango DUST University Ivy League 8	Posted - 2013.07.03 00:31:00 - [19] - Quote add RDV speed to ur list... any heavy who runs a skirmish or domination will appreciate this improvement...
N1ck Comeau Pro Hic Immortalis 574	Posted - 2013.07.03 00:38:00 - [20] - Quote Deltahawk Durango wrote: add RDV speed to ur list... any heavy who runs a skirmish or domination will appreciate this improvement... thanks totally forgot about this one, it's one of my favourite improvements +1

N1ck Comeau Pro Hic Immortalis 574	Posted - 2013.07.03 00:40:00 - [21] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Sounds like CCP did a decent job if the heavies are liking it. a great job. :)
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Frontlinez Omega Commission 113	Posted - 2013.07.03 00:50:00 - [22] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: Splash damage seems fixed. Maybe some MD user can confirm. I can confirm that it is MUCH better now. Closest to Chromosome since, well, Chromosome, lol. I still have the occasional flux and MD round not register, but it has been few and far between. VERY pleased with 1.2 so far. A few of us commented that the game is just plain fun again. Also, I turned down the Effects in my settings and the FPS is holding quite steady. This update is a giant step in the right direction, but we still have a ways to go.
N1ck Comeau Pro Hic Immortalis 574	Posted - 2013.07.03 00:52:00 - [23] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: Splash damage seems fixed. Maybe some MD user can confirm. I can confirm that it is MUCH better now. Closest to Chromosome since, well, Chromosome, lol. I still have the occasional flux and MD round not register, but it has been few and far between. VERY pleased with 1.2 so far. A few of us commented that the game is just plain fun again. Also, I turned down the Effects in my settings and the FPS is holding quite steady. This update is a giant step in the right direction, but we still have a ways to go. Great. glad to hear it :) Glad to see some are liking the game more (:
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 374	Posted - 2013.07.03 05:44:00 - [24] - Quote Played a dozen matches tonight to get a feel for the patch. Things I love: GÇó HMG actually does damage at range. It's crap damage, but it's damage. My furthest HMG kill tonight was 49.31m, something I haven't done since Chromosome. GÇó It feels like matchmaking has improved to me (different experience than yours, N1ck). It could be because more players were online when I played to check out the updates, so it had a larger pool to balance fights. I had some hard freaking fights. GÇó LAVs are slower. Rejoice! What I don't love: GÇó Increased strafing speed. Honestly, just because it's harder to track the wobbling tapdancers than it is the bunny hoppers. I do believe it's an overall improvement to the game, though, and the game feels much smoother. N1ck, I'd say the majority of your list is spot on. Uprising 1.2 seems to bring the fix that HMG needed. And the game feels pretty close to Chromosome in play style, which is a large improvement in my book.
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 93	Posted - 2013.07.03 05:45:00 - [25] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: So far i'm liking 1.2. The game feels a lot smoother, and the new options added are nice. List of pros Hmg can hit from a distance now, not doing much damage but can scare an enemy off. Snowy maps are really cool. Wish it fell from the sky though. Logout option is very convenient. Frames per second seems to be 30 or more at times. Aiming is much smoother. market looks different but in a good way. Lav's are slower so av has more time to react. New performance options are nice to have. AV now shows how much direct hit damage it does. Splash damage seems fixed. Maybe some MD user can confirm. texture loading time is improved. Headshot noise is cool. Can be loud, i believe turning music volume down will make it better. Increased RDV deployment speed and improved the intelligence of the RDV AI. (Awesome change.) Cons Shield recharger new module thing requires no skill points? Saga II is miles better than Sega I and requires no skill points and is cheaper. Shields are still better than armour, new armour mods quite useless. Matchmaking is still bad. You're either dominating or getting wrecked The better hit detection gives scouts an even harder time to move. Close quarters combat is still a little iffy. But better than it was before. Still don't have all the racial suits, maybe next update? Still some minor bugs, including getting Dc'd. LAV's are still a problem. Caldari Logi still rules supreme on the battlefield All in all a pretty solid update. New feature like the logout and the performance tuning are nice. Items needing balancing is still an issue, Shields are still better than armour instead of being around the same and making it more of a personal choice not an obvious one. New ranges are really cool. i give this update an 8.5 out of ten still try Regen tanking with your heavy these new modules really make it interesting and viable
Snagman 313 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 101	Posted - 2013.07.03 06:28:00 - [26] - Quote I was going to do my own review for the Heavies like usual but I think I'll hop onto this one. I agree with all of N1CK's comments and have a couple of my own to add: The Commando dropsuit is quite good, I was worried about it's lack of slots but I have transferable skills from being a career heavy and found it very flexible since I could quickly hammer LAV's and other vehicles with my SL and then drop back to my SR for infantry. The lack of a grenade slot is a hinderance but it's all part of the balance and later on there might be a different racial versions with one.... All in all I like it. The new Armour modules are ok but I was under the impression that the Reactive plates would bestow damage resistance on your armour which would help with armour tanking. However I believe the Reactive plate were made with the Commando suit in mind since it has limited slots allowing you some extra armour an repping with only a minor penalty to movement. The Ferroscale plates seem quite good with reasonable armour boost for no penalty to movement but I've yet to equip them. I found the gameplay a lot smoother however there were delays to me deploying at times but this was isolated to specific games and I can't confirm what this was yet. regards, Snag
KOBLAKA1 Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 183	Posted - 2013.07.03 06:36:00 - [27] - Quote Snagman 313 wrote: I was going to do my own review for the Heavies like usual but I think I'll hop onto this one. I agree with all of N1CK's comments and have a couple of my own to add: The Commando dropsuit is quite good, I was worried about it's lack of slots but I have transferable skills from being a career heavy and found it very flexible since I could quickly hammer LAV's and other vehicles with my SL and then drop back to my SR for infantry. The lack of a grenade slot is a hinderance but it's all part of the balance and later on there might be a different racial versions with one.... All in all I like it. The new Armour modules are ok but I was under the impression that the Reactive plates would bestow damage resistance on your armour which would help with armour tanking. However I believe the Reactive plate were made with the Commando suit in mind since it has limited slots allowing you some extra armour an repping with only a minor penalty to movement. The Ferroscale plates seem quite good with reasonable armour boost for no penalty to movement but I've yet to equip them. I found the gameplay a lot smoother however there were delays to me deploying at times but this was isolated to specific games and I can't confirm what this was yet. regards, Snag Scrambler rifle or Sniper rifle?
NoxMort3m D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3	Posted - 2013.07.03 06:37:00 - [28] - Quote from a HVY s point of view, im still wondering when we will get a suit actually for tanking with our heavy weapons
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 500	Posted - 2013.07.03 08:23:00 - [29] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: anyone know if splash is fixed? I was killed by more MDs today than in the last month. I think i had maybe four or five deaths to a Mass Driver. I was also biomassed by a Plasma Cannon, it was fun to see something different than a AR.
Snagman 313 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 101	Posted - 2013.07.03 10:41:00 - [30] - Quote KOBLAKA1 wrote: Snagman 313 wrote: I was going to do my own review for the Heavies like usual but I think I'll hop onto this one. I agree with all of N1CK's comments and have a couple of my own to add: The Commando dropsuit is quite good, I was worried about it's lack of slots but I have transferable skills from being a career heavy and found it very flexible since I could quickly hammer LAV's and other vehicles with my SL and then drop back to my SR for infantry. The lack of a grenade slot is a hinderance but it's all part of the balance and later on there might be a different racial versions with one.... All in all I like it. The new Armour modules are ok but I was under the impression that the Reactive plates would bestow damage resistance on your armour which would help with armour tanking. However I believe the Reactive plate were made with the Commando suit in mind since it has limited slots allowing you some extra armour an repping with only a minor penalty to movement. The Ferroscale plates seem quite good with reasonable armour boost for no penalty to movement but I've yet to equip them. I found the gameplay a lot smoother however there were delays to me deploying at times but this was isolated to specific games and I can't confirm what this was yet. regards, Snag Scrambler rifle or Sniper rifle? Scrambler rifle, sorry I will now refer to Scambler rifles as SCR and Sniper rifles as SPR. Snag

GRIM GEAR The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 3	Posted - 2013.07.03 10:48:00 - [31] - Quote 1.2 is not that bad the only major change for scout suits is the fact that projectiles don't magically drop off and disappear anymore, which can be deadly when you're running away in a scout suit. I've also noticed if you're under fire and you run around a corner that the damage is delayed a bit as you take damage whilst you're out of sight. Also when you're stamina runs out you cant use the little bit off stamina to sprint as it replenishes. All in all +1 for ccp
wild wendigo KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 4	Posted - 2013.07.03 11:09:00 - [32] - Quote NoxMort3m wrote: from a HVY s point of view, im still wondering when we will get a suit actually for tanking with our heavy weapons I agree, the new plates really don't give enough benefit to use them. It is a step in the right direction.
N1ck Comeau Pro Hic Immortalis 591	Posted - 2013.07.03 15:05:00 - [33] - Quote Glad to see so many people like this update. Anybody else got more pros or cons to add?
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 398	Posted - 2013.07.03 15:15:00 - [34] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: The better hit detection gives scouts an even harder time to move. Actually, me and some of my mates found hit detection worse. But maybe we were just playing on US / Asian Battle Server. Need to test more.


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