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Oxskull Duncarino Shadow Company HQ 202	Posted - 2013.07.02 14:04:00 - [1] - Quote As well as the suit just being a gimped pile of kitten, the prices for them is f'ed up. Standard Advanced Prototype Scouts, Assault, and Logistics --- 3,000 ISK 8,040 ISK 57,690 ISK Sentinel --- 3,000 ISK 13,155 ISK 57,690 ISK Commando --- 8,000 ISK 21,540 ISK 94,425 ISK It's an idiotic pricing for a very niche suit. Stupid shield recharge rate to give to a suit that has such limited slot layout. It's nearly worse than before when us heavies were getting no love, being given this suit as a choice. Standard Commando is just an SP sink on to the way to advanced. Even advanced is not really worth it. Prototype is only barely passably, and that's before its price is factored in. 95k a pop for something that most decent medium suits will destroy The only thing I can see this suit being used for is for Swarm launcher/AR. Any heavy with alot of SP will have spec'd into a decent sidearm. I think I'll be happy just using my Forge/SMG with way more eHP, double shield recharge rate, and more modules.
Oxskull Duncarino Shadow Company HQ 202	Posted - 2013.07.02 14:05:00 - [2] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Sorry bout the stupid question. But what Race is that under? Heavy and therefore only one racial option, Amarr.
Oxskull Duncarino Shadow Company HQ 202	Posted - 2013.07.02 14:12:00 - [3] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Cody and Banning Hammer have differing amount of low slots for the proto suit, is it 1 or 2 low slots? ethire way, this is the most worthless and pathetic suit ive ever seen so it really doesent matter It is one low .. I know.. I was shock about that too. its amazing CCP would give us this trash after we wait patiently for new content and progress Maybe... i still going to try the commando anyway. I have spent lots of SP in core skills, maxed up Shields and armor, and also Speed.. and I also spent SP in CPU and GP. So the Commando looks not to bad for me, specially with the 2 light weapons slots. I've level 4 dropsuit core upgrades, L5 Electronics, L3 Enginnering, L3 Light weapons. I'm OK for PG but I've to get Light weapons to L5 just to barely fit 2 advanced weapons on the advanced Commando. I'm still setting one up for an alternate AV fitting to my forgegun fitting, but the suit needs work from CCP.
Oxskull Duncarino Shadow Company HQ 202	Posted - 2013.07.02 14:45:00 - [4] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Yeah, that is the problem i see too. You have to invest alot of SP in the commando suit, the 2 light weapons slots adds complications with the SP cost to run Commando effectively.. but i bet you it will be kick ass once you get all the necessary skills up. Its a long term project me thinks. As a Swarm launcher paired up with a AR/Sc.R setup, it could be decent, but for less SP you could setup a medium frame that could have more damage mods for your main gun, and a good sidearm. Since the Commando only has a 10/ shield recharge it will be a tough suit to use as a frontline. Someone would need to have their light weapon of choice spec'd into high level proficiencies for it to be in any way effective. Even with the faster weapon change that we have with 1.2, having two ARs would still not make this suit worth spending SP in. At it's ISK cost per suit and the fact that the prototype is the only half decent option, I would not recommend spending SP on this suit till all your CPU and PG relevent skills are L5, including Light Weapons, and have L3/L4 proficiency in the 2 weapons you are thinking of equiping. Only then should ya think of going for it. The Commando suit sucks basicly. Players with high personal skills will make it work, but those players could bring a knife to a gunfight......and win The average player would be best off sticking to Assault or Logi dropsuits.
Oxskull Duncarino Shadow Company HQ 203	Posted - 2013.07.02 15:14:00 - [5] - Quote Skyhound Solbrave wrote: So you're saying I can equip a forge gun AND a swarm launcher on it AND smack on damage modifiers? Are you guys trolling or just stupid? Maybe CCP should have called it Demolitions or AV to get their point across. The high cost of the proto suit is clearly to balance it with the high cost of running tanks/dropships. For the pilots, I am apologizing now ahead of time. I'll ask you the same question. Are you trolling or just stupid? The Commando can equip 2 light weapons or sidearms. The Forge is a heavy weapon. Hmmm, ya seeing an issue with your above plan yet?
Oxskull Duncarino Shadow Company HQ 203	Posted - 2013.07.02 15:16:00 - [6] - Quote Chibi Andy wrote: like i said before in previous posts, if CCP has the time to waste on crap like this, they could at least use that time constructively to give us our remaining racial suits. why would we even bother with this crap of a suit? a heavy suit has more high/low slots than the commando suit I'm with ya. To bring out a extremely niche suit like this when they don't even have the all the basic racial suits out is head wreaking.
Oxskull Duncarino Shadow Company HQ 203	Posted - 2013.07.02 15:40:00 - [7] - Quote Of course we're all forgetting that the Commando comes with......wait for it.......a melee damage of 240. Everything is sorted. The suit that can't move fast, has a massive scan profile, etc, etc, can punch the snot out of someone I think my laughter is hysterical at this stage. I'm over the spitting, cursing stage finally.
Oxskull Duncarino Shadow Company HQ 203	Posted - 2013.07.02 18:28:00 - [8] - Quote Skyhound Solbrave wrote: Oxskull Duncarino wrote: Skyhound Solbrave wrote: So you're saying I can equip a forge gun AND a swarm launcher on it AND smack on damage modifiers? Are you guys trolling or just stupid? Maybe CCP should have called it Demolitions or AV to get their point across. The high cost of the proto suit is clearly to balance it with the high cost of running tanks/dropships. For the pilots, I am apologizing now ahead of time. I'll ask you the same question. Are you trolling or just stupid? The Commando can equip 2 light weapons or sidearms. The Forge is a heavy weapon. Hmmm, ya seeing an issue with your above plan yet? No, I'm just stupid. LOL I forgot the difference between light and heavy weapons. Since that is the case, it won't be OP AV until the plasma cannon is buffed. Haha, I have regular brain farts myself. After playing with the suit a bit more, I'm actually having some fun with it. It's nice being able to use swarms, and when some chaps come running over the hill thinking there's only a sidearm against them, sticking an AR in their face has its merits Plus messing around with a Mass Driver AR fit has been fun too. I'm undecided on the Commando, but I still think that it is more for **** and giggles usage than any kind of serious battle use. Ah well, it'll keep me entertained until other options come out.
Oxskull Duncarino Shadow Company HQ 203	Posted - 2013.07.02 18:33:00 - [9] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Everyone seems to be forgetting the shield recharge rate of 10/s. Na, it has been brought up already. But yeh, a 10/s shield recharge rate really gimps the suit. There's fun to be had with it, but only once a primary dropsuit setup in one of the other classes has been somewhat maxed out. To many skills are needed to be at/near level 5 for the Commando to be useful.

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