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        |  FIRST TESTDUMMY
 Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
 Caldari State
 
 4
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 06:14:00 -
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 Hacking anything, be it a node canon, installation turret, supply depot, or even another player's LAV should cost ISK.
 
 I propose that the total amount of ISK spent to hack something should equate to 100% of the player's WP.
 
 The ISK put in from these hacks will further be distributed equally amongst the winning team, but at a 20% deduction to the original amount. For example, if one-million ISK is pooled in from people hacking, the winning team will receive eight hundred-thousand divided up amongst its members.
 
 If at any moment a player's ISK fund is running low, then he or she will have incentive to sell off unused equipment via the item exchange for when it is released. This idea also should affect the need for corps to participate in PC.
 
 With that said, here is a little scenario:
 
 First TestDummy: Hacking this node canon is going to cost me 150,000 ISK. Should I pay the amount or should Blueberry over there do it.
 
 Blueberry: You do it.
 
 First TestDummy: Alright, I got this.
 
 -2 Minutes Later-
 
 First TestDummy: Damn, the reds capped my objective. I'm low on ISK. I'll let someone else take it.
 
 -The Match Ends With First TestDummy's Team's Loss-
 
 First TestDummy: Oh well, I better sell off this stock of 1,000 Prometheuses.
 
 -The Next Day-
 
 First TestDummy: Nothing sold! Better gear up for PC then.
 
 MOST PRO IDEA EVER, right?
 
 
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        |  Arkena Wyrnspire
 Turalyon Plus
 
 1475
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 06:15:00 -
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 No.
 Penalising people for actually going after the objectives is a terrible idea.
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        |  Nguruthos IX
 Hellstorm Inc
 League of Infamy
 
 659
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 06:15:00 -
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 wat
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        |  Byozuma Kegawa
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 141
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 06:17:00 -
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 How is this even a good idea? No, what we really need to do is reward counter-hacking, not make hacking itself detrimental.
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        |  Cyrius Li-Moody
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 211
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 06:17:00 -
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 da fuq?
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        |  Khal V'Rani
 Nephilim Initiative
 
 150
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 06:18:00 -
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 Nope.
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        |  KingBlade82
 The Phoenix Federation
 
 59
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 06:21:00 -
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 No
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        |  Denak Kalamari
 BurgezzE.T.F
 
 193
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 06:24:00 -
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 This has to go to the bin of worst idea ever along with dual wielding two weapons at once.
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        |  Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
 Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
 
 646
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 06:24:00 -
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 I think this may apply here.
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        |  Assert Dominance
 Ahrendee Mercenaries
 Omega Commission
 
 43
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 06:29:00 -
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 Denak Kalamari wrote:This has to go to the bin of worst idea ever along with dual wielding two weapons at once. Dual weilding plasma cannons would be pretty awesome.
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        |  Halfwings Warbringer
 WarRavens
 League of Infamy
 
 0
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 06:30:00 -
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 FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote:Hacking anything, be it a node canon, installation turret, supply depot, or even another player's LAV should cost ISK.
 I propose that the total amount of ISK spent to hack something should equate to 100% of the player's WP.
 
 The ISK put in from these hacks will further be distributed equally amongst the winning team, but at a 20% deduction to the original amount. For example, if one-million ISK is pooled in from people hacking, the winning team will receive eight hundred-thousand divided up amongst its members.
 
 If at any moment a player's ISK fund is running low, then he or she will have incentive to sell off unused equipment via the item exchange for when it is released. This idea also should affect the need for corps to participate in PC.
 
 With that said, here is a little scenario:
 
 First TestDummy: Hacking this node canon is going to cost me 150,000 ISK. Should I pay the amount or should Blueberry over there do it.
 
 Blueberry: You do it.
 
 First TestDummy: Alright, I got this.
 
 -2 Minutes Later-
 
 First TestDummy: Damn, the reds capped my objective. I'm low on ISK. I'll let someone else take it.
 
 -The Match Ends With First TestDummy's Team's Loss-
 
 First TestDummy: Oh well, I better sell off this stock of 1,000 Prometheuses.
 
 -The Next Day-
 
 First TestDummy: Nothing sold! Better gear up for PC then.
 
 MOST PRO IDEA EVER, right?
 
 
 
 
 pls tell me you are trolling
 
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        |  FIRST TESTDUMMY
 Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
 Caldari State
 
 5
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 06:33:00 -
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 C'mon guys, this is an insanely good idea!
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        |  Daylon Daxx
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 45
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 06:36:00 -
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 FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote:Hacking anything, be it a node canon, installation turret, supply depot, or even another player's LAV should cost ISK.
 I propose that the total amount of ISK spent to hack something should equate to 100% of the player's WP.
 
 The ISK put in from these hacks will further be distributed equally amongst the winning team, but at a 20% deduction to the original amount. For example, if one-million ISK is pooled in from people hacking, the winning team will receive eight hundred-thousand divided up amongst its members.
 
 If at any moment a player's ISK fund is running low, then he or she will have incentive to sell off unused equipment via the item exchange for when it is released. This idea also should affect the need for corps to participate in PC.
 
 With that said, here is a little scenario:
 
 First TestDummy: Hacking this node canon is going to cost me 150,000 ISK. Should I pay the amount or should Blueberry over there do it.
 
 Blueberry: You do it.
 
 First TestDummy: Alright, I got this.
 
 -2 Minutes Later-
 
 First TestDummy: Damn, the reds capped my objective. I'm low on ISK. I'll let someone else take it.
 
 -The Match Ends With First TestDummy's Team's Loss-
 
 First TestDummy: Oh well, I better sell off this stock of 1,000 Prometheuses.
 
 -The Next Day-
 
 First TestDummy: Nothing sold! Better gear up for PC then.
 
 MOST PRO IDEA EVER, right?
 
 
 
 As the "FIRST TESTDUMMY" me thinks you took one brick wall to the noggin, too many
 
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        |  KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
 Seraphim Initiative.
 CRONOS.
 
 4625
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 06:37:00 -
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 This idea is sooooooooooooo terrible, this must be trolling.
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        |  Medic 1879
 Tritan's Onslaught
 RISE of LEGION
 
 512
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 06:42:00 -
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 FIRST TESTDUMMY uses joke troll thread, its super effective!
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        |  LT SHANKS
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 46
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 06:53:00 -
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 FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote:stock of 1,000 Prometheuses. Lol.
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        |  Michael Arck
 sephiroth clones
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 53
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 07:26:00 -
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 ...and you represent Caldari State. What a disgrace.
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        |  5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4
 Expert Intervention
 Caldari State
 
 26
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 07:27:00 -
          [18] - Quote 
 This thread, eliminate it.
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        |  Syther Shadows
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 183
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 07:33:00 -
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 I like it how people take a person whos name is first test dummy and only has 5 likes on the forums
 
 Seriously when he presents a idea that is insanely ******** and benefits people to sit back and snipe all day cuse who ever hacks a objective will pay the majority of isk they will get that match
 
 i mean how gullible can ppl get ?
 
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        |  Kane Fyea
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 556
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 07:38:00 -
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 5/10
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        |  Vicious Minotaur
 Tronhadar Free Guard
 Minmatar Republic
 
 51
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 07:40:00 -
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 I'd take this concept a step further, and have killing people cost ISK:
 
 - Want to kill a proto suit? Well, you better have ~150k to spare.
 
 - Want to destroy a well fit HAV? Well, you better be prepared to have your wallet ravaged like the HAV player did.
 
 - Have an orbital? Well, you better have money burning a hole in your pocket.
 
 Why stop there? Make every bullet/sci-fi projectile cost ISK as well. That way, DUST players will have incentive to improve their aim. It may even reduce the AR spam. Plus, Heavies are in need of some love, as they are OP, and this proposal will be a reasonable nerf.
 
 Why not go even further? Make every step a player takes cost isk. We all know how OP scouts are ATM, so this is a step in the right direction. Assault suits will also become less OP. Plus, this benefits heavies, and balances out the bullet cost.
 
 Overall, I love this concept, and I fully support this thread. +1
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        |  C Saunders
 Tech Guard
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 353
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 07:41:00 -
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 Can I have what hes smoking.
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        |  Kane Fyea
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 556
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 07:41:00 -
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 Vicious Minotaur wrote:I'd take this concept a step further, and have killing people cost ISK:
 - Want to kill a proto suit? Well, you better have ~150k to spare.
 
 - Want to destroy a well fit HAV? Well, you better be prepared to have your wallet ravaged like the HAV player did.
 
 - Have an orbital? Well, you better have money burning a hole in your pocket.
 
 Why stop there? Make every bullet/sci-fi projectile cost ISK as well. That way, DUST players will have incentive to improve their aim. It may even reduce the AR spam. Plus, Heavies are in need of some love, as they are OP, and this proposal will be a reasonable nerf.
 
 Why not go even further? Make every step a player takes cost isk. We all know how OP scouts are ATM, so this is a step in the right direction. Assault suits will also become less OP. Plus, this benefits heavies, and balances out the bullet cost.
 
 Overall, I love this concept, and I fully support this thread. +1
 Don't forget paying for the gas for your vehicles.
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        |  Skipper Jones
 Red Star.
 EoN.
 
 206
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 07:45:00 -
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 You know crack kills right?
 
 Leave. The. Crack. Alone
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        |  Skidd McMarx
 REAPERS REPUBLIC
 
 0
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 08:15:00 -
          [25] - Quote 
 worst idea EVER!
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        |  Matticus Monk
 Ordus Trismegistus
 
 133
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 09:11:00 -
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 I'm not sure what to think of this idea. I'm vacillating between "this is an obvious troll, looking to stir up a rukus" and "here is someone that has an idea, but for whatever cosmic reason, doesn't recognize it as being incredibly stupid"
 
 I'm sorry. Even when I don't agree with an idea I usually give the OP some credit for bringing it up and trying to get ideas out there, or for at least trying to present it well. I can't do that here.....
 
 What is the point of this? To generate additional ISK for the rewards? It's utterly ridiculous to 'charge' someone for hacking an installation.... not only does it provide negative incentive for players to risk life and limb to hack objectives, but it's conceptually... just.... stupid.
 
 Let me run my scenario for you:
 
 -Matticus runs, shotgun in hand, behind enemy lines to the far red objective.
 -Two enemies guarding the objective are slain.
 -Matticus dies to enemy #3 but spawns in close to the objective using his previously dropped spawn uplink. (note here that Matticus has now 'spent' the cost for his destroyed suit, weapons and modules)
 -Matticus kills enemy #3 and proceeds to objective
 -Matticus says "WTF?!?!" and pulls out his ISK credit card to initiate the transaction so that he can have the 'priveledge' to hack this beautiful objective....
 
 No. You fail. No soup for YOU!
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        |  LT SHANKS
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 52
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 10:46:00 -
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 OPs proposal sounds like he wants to create some isk deficit for everyone. He brings up a point that this gives an incentive for corps to participate more in PC and that it could make the item transfer market thing much more viable, but other than these two things, I don't see anymore benefits.
 
 OP what's your main objective before I dismiss you as a troll.
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        |  Khal V'Rani
 Nephilim Initiative
 
 151
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 10:50:00 -
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 *puts boots up on table, cracks a cold one, patiently awaiting a respose to LT's question*
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        |  pegasis prime
 The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 354
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 10:58:00 -
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 God what a dire idea you what f@#k it why dont we just charge for the inirtial dampners as well oh and dont forget about road tax . I hope the op can keep the rest of his cough couhg epiphanys to him self.
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        |  Khal V'Rani
 Nephilim Initiative
 
 151
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.02 11:05:00 -
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 *hands pegasis a drink*
 
 "Relax for a moment man, let the dummy gather his thoughts and respond."
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