I am a die hard air pilot and I won't stop bring up jets. I know that they are coming. It's not a question of if but when. So until they get here pilots and everyone else must create some of the base foundation.

From the dropship we have learned a lot of things about flying in dust.

1. Forge guns hit like an *******
2. So far there is no chafe to stave off missiles
3. Tanking shots is the only way to survive in a vehicle
4. Ground can see air and hit air from a mile away but air can't see ground
5. Maps are to small but this won't be the case forever so when jets are introduced also introduce bigger maps
6. Air needs to hurt quick and get out fast with little risk, and by little risk I don't mean taking 4 forge gun shots but dealing out a lot of damage fast. If they are made of paper fine but it will be the price we pay for power

That's about it

Please give some good criticism.

Forge Guns won't do **** vs jets, they're too fast. Something tells me you haven't played BF3...

-XOXO

Just give up, forge guns will less than one shot jets and there'll be no other way about it. This is obvious since CCP decided the "Medium" air vehicles (DS) is to be less tanky than LAV's and only use light modules. What do you think a light air vehicle will be like?

~a joke.

I would actually have to say that there's a point to be made about forge guns vs. Jets, only because they are nothing like an RPG. Forge guns can fire across a distance of about 500 meters in 1-2 seconds give or take, an RPG would need to not only have gravity accounted for so the missle could travel that far, but also would take around 8-10 seconds compared to the 1-2 a Forge Gun needs to cover the same length. If a jet is traveling remotely near that forge gunner, he could have a very good chance at dealing some extreme damage instantly. It will be interesting to see how that imbalance plays out.

I was in a game with a bunch of blueberries against you, Aldin, Regnyum and a few others. I was very sad because I only noticed your ADS at the very end, I so very much wanted to crash my Gorgon into it

Hmm.....I find it hilarious that there are even air breathing vehicles in this game. Making anything jet related on an Unreal of any type engine is the worst idea in the long, sad history of bad ideas. At least vehicles I would even consider barely worthy to fly. And I've flown LOMAC from the inside of an actual F-15 simulator. Unless you can match that performance and expertise standard, please don't even try to bother.

Forge guns have a range of 300m
Swarms have limited lock on range (even proto) and a DS with a speed mod can out run them or climb high enough for them to burn out before reaching target.

Jets biggest enemy will probably be the new AA tank that is coming out soon and a rail tank whose pilot knows how to lead a target well. If you use the hover mode with one of the jets, you are asking to be hit.

Im betting that jets will come out when medium turrets are available. Hopefully, the pilot controlled weapons let you cycle between something such as a swarm launcher and a blaster.

The jet missles should do something around the range of a swarm and the blaster would be probably the same as a militia tank blaster at the proto level. It would mean that the jets' main focus would be AV but could do strafing runs in support with no OSK.

A cycling system, hum, like the the R2 weapon change on grunt units? I never thought of anything like that.

Also something that needs to be pointed out is that yes, DS and jets can fly away fast but they are still big fat flying targets with no way of engaging a forg gunner or swiarm missle user head on. The forge gun makes the machine go off balance messing up aim, that's assuming you tracked down the gunner hiding within a group of swarm launchers. I guess this goes to vehicle drivers working with grunts to do things the other cant. It actually interesting when you think about it, but for people who like me who choose not to play with head set its hard.

And even when air is over ground, it can't see ground because our own ship blocks the camera. Derp

Just give up, forge guns will less than one shot jets and there'll be no other way about it. This is obvious since CCP decided the "Medium" air vehicles (DS) is to be less tanky than LAV's and only use light modules. What do you think a light air vehicle will be like?

~a joke.

I would quite like to see them arrive before making judgements on the state of balance.