Snipers in this game are useless unless they are calling out positions to squadmates to reds they can't kill. The only time I pick up a sniper is when I counter-snipe to help my squad, then I drop it immediately after to continue with the fight. An example is my last good counter-snipe game. The enemy decided to stop going for the dom objective A and sit back and snipe (like 7 of them), so I pulled out my MLT sniper fit and went on to go 22 - 17 - 5, 19 headshots.

I would not have gotten that many kills or headshots if the enemy had fought for the objective.

Too many blueberries decide to not play a game that is a good fight and sit back and snipe, because they worry about their precious KDR. Stupid CoD kids. Ruins the game.

Every sniper thinks that they are the useful one.

Actually had a guy say thank you to me last night in squad, not once but twice, for sniping an enemy about to kill him :) Felt gooood.

But anyways... I tend to snipe maybe 1 out of 4 matches just to switch things up. Most of the time I will snipe to counter enemies posing a threat to my squad. I do enjoy running around in my fat suit defending an objective with my SMG sometimes.. then switching to sniper whenever a:

squad mate says "GODDAMIT.. BLARGGG.. STUPID SNIPER SNIPED ME"...

then I calmly ask, usually in my best creeper sniper voice, "where is the sniper exactly"

"BLARGGGG HE IS SOMEWHERE NEAR THE MCC, BY THE HILLS, OVER THAT WAY.. " [points towards somewhere like Babe Ruth calling a homerun]

wait 15-30 seconds "ok I got him.. let me know if any other snipers turn up"

then usually nothing, sometimes I get the "Bullitt, why are you sniping.. come down here and help us win the fite", but occasionally, just sometimes, people say thanks.

Maybe I will spec into Commando to be able to snipe and run an AR for better effectivness.

But yeah, snipers are for lose not for win /rollseyes..

/whispers "I am... the useful one" ..

/ninja vanish

So essentially, snipers aren't useless because they can take out snipers?

They are pretty useless in pubs, because there's no way to control the entire team. But as part of an overall plan it's sometimes critical to have a sniper.

Meh, snipers can occasionally be useful in pub games. They need to be near the top of the board in kills, counter snipe effectively, keep AV players away from areas with good LOS of vehicle lanes and deny the other team the ability to freely use open areas while making sure that no enemy squads make it to a checkpoint at full strength, but they can be useful. Sitting in the MCC or way off on a mountain pretty much precludes seeing enough traffic and/or being accurate enough to do anything useful. The guy who is a million miles away from the action and goes 3-0 with a sniper rifle really isn't a sniper. I agree that communication and spotting are some of the most useful things a sniper can do that are under utilized in pub games.

So essentially, snipers aren't useless because they can take out snipers?

I used to be a sniper pre-chromosone and for a bit inchromosone, easily the most boring role in the game. Also you can quite easily lose your Thales, damn I remember using a Thales on that tiny ambush manus peak map they had. I went 31-1, people just dont snipe like I used to anymore.

Then again, I usually just snipe because I'm smoking and not really paying attention to the game.

I don't do it for the thank yous, I do it for the tears.

Sleepy Zan is an amazingly effective sniper anytime he's out there. I always appreciate that counter sniper job he does. Gem Cutter on the other hand while being an amazing shot is a ****** sniper that will let 9 other enemy snipers blast away without a care in the world just padding his KDR.

TLDR

Sleepy Zan - everything that is right about the sniper role
Gem Cutter - everything that is wrong