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Rifter7
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
252
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Posted - 2013.07.01 16:17:00 -
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its kind of sad that they get such a bad rap.
you all know them..
the ones that keep harassing and killing the mid range guys up on roofs that make your life on the ground hell the ones that call in their dropships and setup choice uplinks overlooking the map the ones that spot incoming bolas's and try to kill the drivers off before it lands or they get in the ones that make sure no one hacks that point no matter what.. the ones with the stalker voice calling everything out for you on the map.. the ones that "steal" your kills that were never going to be your kills :P... the psychopaths running behind you countersniping from the ground....
lol jk, of course you don't. theyre all in the mcc and redline padding their kdr |
Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
150
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Posted - 2013.07.01 16:18:00 -
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all snipers are useless, no exceptions. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
877
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Posted - 2013.07.01 16:20:00 -
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Don't forget tenderizing reds that manage to get away so team members can pad their kills easier. |
Aisha Ctarl
The Generals EoN.
374
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Posted - 2013.07.01 16:25:00 -
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The sniper - the only style of play that allows the player to use their officer weapons without fear of losing them. |
C Saunders
Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance
353
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Posted - 2013.07.01 16:38:00 -
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I used to be a sniper pre-chromosone and for a bit inchromosone, easily the most boring role in the game. Also you can quite easily lose your Thales, damn I remember using a Thales on that tiny ambush manus peak map they had. I went 31-1, people just dont snipe like I used to anymore. |
Carter Raynor
The Generals EoN.
47
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Posted - 2013.07.01 16:44:00 -
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Snipers in this game are useless unless they are calling out positions to squadmates to reds they can't kill. The only time I pick up a sniper is when I counter-snipe to help my squad, then I drop it immediately after to continue with the fight. An example is my last good counter-snipe game. The enemy decided to stop going for the dom objective A and sit back and snipe (like 7 of them), so I pulled out my MLT sniper fit and went on to go 22 - 17 - 5, 19 headshots.
I would not have gotten that many kills or headshots if the enemy had fought for the objective.
Too many blueberries decide to not play a game that is a good fight and sit back and snipe, because they worry about their precious KDR. Stupid CoD kids. Ruins the game. |
Kiro Justice
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
149
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Posted - 2013.07.01 16:55:00 -
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Carter Raynor wrote:Snipers in this game are useless unless they are calling out positions to squadmates to reds they can't kill. The only time I pick up a sniper is when I counter-snipe to help my squad, then I drop it immediately after to continue with the fight. An example is my last good counter-snipe game. The enemy decided to stop going for the dom objective A and sit back and snipe (like 7 of them), so I pulled out my MLT sniper fit and went on to go 22 - 17 - 5, 19 headshots.
I would not have gotten that many kills or headshots if the enemy had fought for the objective.
Too many blueberries decide to not play a game that is a good fight and sit back and snipe, because they worry about their precious KDR. Stupid CoD kids. Ruins the game.
I didn't (Still don't) care for my KDR. I sniped to help out my team and, was decent at it. Then I got a Respec because it was boring. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
486
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Posted - 2013.07.01 17:03:00 -
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They are pretty useless in pubs, because there's no way to control the entire team. But as part of an overall plan it's sometimes critical to have a sniper. |
Blerf Naster
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
6
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Posted - 2013.07.01 17:05:00 -
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Every sniper thinks that they are the useful one. |
Rifter7
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
254
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Posted - 2013.07.01 17:45:00 -
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Blerf Naster wrote:Every sniper thinks that they are the useful one.
hahaha this. |
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ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
23
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Posted - 2013.07.01 18:03:00 -
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Actually had a guy say thank you to me last night in squad, not once but twice, for sniping an enemy about to kill him :) Felt gooood.
But anyways... I tend to snipe maybe 1 out of 4 matches just to switch things up. Most of the time I will snipe to counter enemies posing a threat to my squad. I do enjoy running around in my fat suit defending an objective with my SMG sometimes.. then switching to sniper whenever a:
squad mate says "GODDAMIT.. BLARGGG.. STUPID SNIPER SNIPED ME"...
then I calmly ask, usually in my best creeper sniper voice, "where is the sniper exactly"
"BLARGGGG HE IS SOMEWHERE NEAR THE MCC, BY THE HILLS, OVER THAT WAY.. "
wait 15-30 seconds "ok I got him.. let me know if any other snipers turn up"
then usually nothing, sometimes I get the "Bullitt, why are you sniping.. come down here and help us win the fite", but occasionally, just sometimes, people say thanks.
Maybe I will spec into Commando to be able to snipe and run an AR for better effectivness.
But yeah, snipers are for lose not for win /rollseyes..
/whispers "I am... the useful one" ..
/ninja vanish |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
1459
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Posted - 2013.07.01 18:34:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:Actually had a guy say thank you to me last night in squad, not once but twice, for sniping an enemy about to kill him :) Felt gooood.
But anyways... I tend to snipe maybe 1 out of 4 matches just to switch things up. Most of the time I will snipe to counter enemies posing a threat to my squad. I do enjoy running around in my fat suit defending an objective with my SMG sometimes.. then switching to sniper whenever a:
squad mate says "GODDAMIT.. BLARGGG.. STUPID SNIPER SNIPED ME"...
then I calmly ask, usually in my best creeper sniper voice, "where is the sniper exactly"
"BLARGGGG HE IS SOMEWHERE NEAR THE MCC, BY THE HILLS, OVER THAT WAY.. " [points towards somewhere like Babe Ruth calling a homerun]
wait 15-30 seconds "ok I got him.. let me know if any other snipers turn up"
then usually nothing, sometimes I get the "Bullitt, why are you sniping.. come down here and help us win the fite", but occasionally, just sometimes, people say thanks.
Maybe I will spec into Commando to be able to snipe and run an AR for better effectivness.
But yeah, snipers are for lose not for win /rollseyes..
/whispers "I am... the useful one" ..
/ninja vanish
So essentially, snipers aren't useless because they can take out snipers? |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
605
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Posted - 2013.07.01 18:36:00 -
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I agree, it's hard for a sniper to be useful. Very few can pull this off. Most just snipe for kills to look relevant. There are some good ones though that actually help the team. |
Vavilia Lysenko
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
89
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Posted - 2013.07.01 18:37:00 -
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Let's not forget
The ones that let you continue your delusion that you took down that Heavy or Proto-Logi all on your own.
The ones that Kill all their Sniper-Bro's so you won't come on the forums crying about getting killed by some "Coward".
The ones that keep the outer objectives locked down so you don't all lemming out of the city to take them back.
The ones that kill the Anti-Armour so you precious Tank doesn't diaf.
The ones that shoot the gunners out of Dropships.
The ones that pop Uplinks and Hives.
The ones that will continue sniping despite your whining.
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ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
23
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Posted - 2013.07.01 18:38:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:So essentially, snipers aren't useless because they can take out snipers?
Precisely my dear watson!
Do you even lift?
Anyway one of the two kills I was thanked for was a 20m headshot on a scout shotty chasing my dude around a corner (LOL THATS A SNIPER RITE?) I had just finished taking out a row of snipers up on the rings over the city, along with a forge gunner (LOL THATS A SNIPER RITE?). Then another sniper popped up on the rooftop, alongside a tac-ar user (LOL THATS ALSO A SNIPER RITE?) overlooking the compound, so I took them out as aswell. Then I was running back to supply depot to switch back to HMG, when I heard my buddy call for help with the scout. Lastly, this was all done from the ground... not red line or building top. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF MY MOUF?
But yeah, you can just sit there and make your sarcastic witty comments or whatever you do with your free time.
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Aramis Madrigal
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
20
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Posted - 2013.07.01 18:47:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:They are pretty useless in pubs, because there's no way to control the entire team. But as part of an overall plan it's sometimes critical to have a sniper.
Meh, snipers can occasionally be useful in pub games. They need to be near the top of the board in kills, counter snipe effectively, keep AV players away from areas with good LOS of vehicle lanes and deny the other team the ability to freely use open areas while making sure that no enemy squads make it to a checkpoint at full strength, but they can be useful. Sitting in the MCC or way off on a mountain pretty much precludes seeing enough traffic and/or being accurate enough to do anything useful. The guy who is a million miles away from the action and goes 3-0 with a sniper rifle really isn't a sniper. I agree that communication and spotting are some of the most useful things a sniper can do that are under utilized in pub games. |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
56
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Posted - 2013.07.01 18:51:00 -
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Tell me more about how snipers going 10-0 in ambush aren't helping their team to win (not that this is me). Seriously, I'm not specced into sniping and I'm not great at it, but I almost never use the same suit for a whole match and sometimes I switch to snipe a bit. At times I've gotten top WP on my team, even spending most of the match sniping. The uplinks snipers drop are also quite useful, at least when they're not behind the redline or on some remote mountaintop. In some matches (particularly domination) I've even sniped enemy uplinks at critical moments. |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
605
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Posted - 2013.07.01 18:52:00 -
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Aramis Madrigal wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:They are pretty useless in pubs, because there's no way to control the entire team. But as part of an overall plan it's sometimes critical to have a sniper. Meh, snipers can occasionally be useful in pub games. They need to be near the top of the board in kills, counter snipe effectively, keep AV players away from areas with good LOS of vehicle lanes and deny the other team the ability to freely use open areas while making sure that no enemy squads make it to a checkpoint at full strength, but they can be useful. Sitting in the MCC or way off on a mountain pretty much precludes seeing enough traffic and/or being accurate enough to do anything useful. The guy who is a million miles away from the action and goes 3-0 with a sniper rifle really isn't a sniper. I agree that communication and spotting are some of the most useful things a sniper can do that are under utilized in pub games.
Snipers can be useful anywhere PC and Pub. It just depends on if they know where they gotta be. Most of them are sniping trying to clone. One who can go for cloning as well as protect a objective is pretty useful. |
DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc
615
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Posted - 2013.07.01 18:52:00 -
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A useful sniper is one that is not afraid to get dirty and pull out the sidearm. Most of them think their too good for that, which makes them lame. |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
56
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Posted - 2013.07.01 18:53:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:So essentially, snipers aren't useless because they can take out snipers?
Replace snipers with jets and you've basically described fixed-wing aircraft in BF3 and why I'm not so thrilled about seeing them in Dust. |
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ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
23
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Posted - 2013.07.01 18:59:00 -
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Because a frogfoot destroying the enemy tanks, jets, helicopters, and mowing people down on the ground is useless?
This is the problem with generalizations... it causes the community to blindly "hate" on people who can actually use these tools effectively. When people get on the "hate" bandwagon, then these fools like to run their little mouths and try to call you out for being "useless" when you are actually helping the squad take down the enemy, defend the objective, and win the game.
All of you people saying "snipers" are useless need to rephrase and add the words "red-line" or "mountain camping" or "silent" or "lone wolf". |
Jathniel
G I A N T EoN.
552
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Posted - 2013.07.01 19:03:00 -
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So much ignorance about snipers on this thread...
Too much to possibly contain. lol |
Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T EoN.
285
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Posted - 2013.07.01 19:19:00 -
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Some times, I play very well, lock down an obj, remove shields of incoming troops, call out on comms enemy movement. sometimes, I don't want to help anyone, what I actually do is scope around looking at the dumb crap the lemming are doing, an amusing bunch TBO.
end of the day, you all hate snipers cuz your flay locks don't reach the redzone.
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DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
856
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Posted - 2013.07.01 19:51:00 -
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snipers are actually really useful in PC. no joke |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1857
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Posted - 2013.07.01 19:54:00 -
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Ah, the good 1%
I believe I made a similar thread in closed beta. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1857
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Posted - 2013.07.01 19:56:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:I used to be a sniper pre-chromosone and for a bit inchromosone, easily the most boring role in the game. Also you can quite easily lose your Thales, damn I remember using a Thales on that tiny ambush manus peak map they had. I went 31-1, people just dont snipe like I used to anymore. Depends on how you play it. I had my own sniper play style in chromosome. Just keep on the move, sniping and putting down uplinks. I played it more as a literal hit-and-run weapon rather than sitting on a hill the whole battle. It was pretty fun. |
Zedra Faiolin
Ill Omens EoN.
3
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Posted - 2013.07.01 20:00:00 -
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A dagger by its very nature is meant to be concealed. A sniper rifle by its very nature is meant to be far far away from the CQC. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
164
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Posted - 2013.07.01 20:08:00 -
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I don't always snipe, but when I do....
I set up close to the enemy MCC and camp on MCC spawns and reduce the number of bullets flying in your direction. I watch over and repeatedly hack that E installation on the far side of the map. I just 2 shot that Heavy PRO that was about to spray you off of your hack. I look for that (Charge Sniper Rifle) that keeps popping up in red on the kill feed. I get my responsible percentage of enemies cleared in Domination matches.
Then again, I usually just snipe because I'm smoking and not really paying attention to the game. |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
24
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Posted - 2013.07.01 20:21:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:
Then again, I usually just snipe because I'm smoking and not really paying attention to the game.
And this :) |
Sleepy Zan
Sleepytime Gorilla Mercenaries
2335
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Posted - 2013.07.01 20:23:00 -
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I don't do it for the thank yous, I do it for the tears. |
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