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Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1354	Posted - 2013.07.01 14:43:00 - [1] - Quote Cal Logi > Gal Logi Gal logi > Gal Assault Cal Assault > Gal Logi Those 5hp/s inherent, combined with 5 low slots really make all the difference in the world. And still it's not enough :\ That's how terrible armor is in it's current form. But hey, at least I'm finally enjoying this game as an armor tanker.
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 23	Posted - 2013.07.01 14:45:00 - [2] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Cal Logi > Gal Logi Gal logi > Gal Assault Cal Assault > Gal Logi Those 5hp/s inherent, combined with 5 low slots really make all the difference in the world. And still it's not enough :\ That's how terrible armor is in it's current form. But hey, at least I'm finally enjoying this game as an armor tanker. now you just need a dedicaded repper behind you
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1354	Posted - 2013.07.01 14:45:00 - [3] - Quote XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Cal Logi > Gal Logi Gal logi > Gal Assault Cal Assault > Gal Logi Those 5hp/s inherent, combined with 5 low slots really make all the difference in the world. And still it's not enough :\ That's how terrible armor is in it's current form. But hey, at least I'm finally enjoying this game as an armor tanker. now you just need a dedicaded repper behind you Assault rifle (400+ DPS) > Repper (Max 102hp/s)
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 23	Posted - 2013.07.01 14:49:00 - [4] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Cal Logi > Gal Logi Gal logi > Gal Assault Cal Assault > Gal Logi Those 5hp/s inherent, combined with 5 low slots really make all the difference in the world. And still it's not enough :\ That's how terrible armor is in it's current form. But hey, at least I'm finally enjoying this game as an armor tanker. now you just need a dedicaded repper behind you Assault rifle (400+ DPS) > Repper (Max 102hp/s) throw down a triage also
Galthur CrimeWave Syndicate 92	Posted - 2013.07.01 14:50:00 - [5] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Proto Cal Logi > Proto Gal Logi Proto Gal logi > Proto Gal Assault Proto Cal Assault > Proto Gal Logi Those 5hp/s inherent, combined with 5 low slots really make all the difference in the world. And still it's not enough :\ Cal assault still gets more HP and more regen in the end. Not to mention Cal Logi. That's how terrible armor is in it's current form. But hey, at least I'm finally enjoying this game as an armor tanker. fixed
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4223	Posted - 2013.07.01 14:51:00 - [6] - Quote Quit making us heavies sad by reminding us that medium frames, when broken, tend to tank damage better than us....or at least just as good as...(please remember movement speed / strafe speed / and hit boxes before complaining that your medium suit has 50 less EHP than a heavy) I have sooo much more trouble killing logi's and assaults than I do heavies, heavies are a joke unless they catch you off guard or are fully tanked with a dedicated repper or two. Thankfully we can be medium frames now with the Commandon't, oh boy!
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 203	Posted - 2013.07.01 14:52:00 - [7] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Cal Logi > Gal Logi Gal logi > Gal Assault Cal Assault > Gal Logi Those 5hp/s inherent, combined with 5 low slots really make all the difference in the world. And still it's not enough :\ That's how terrible armor is in it's current form. But hey, at least I'm finally enjoying this game as an armor tanker. now you just need a dedicaded repper behind you Assault rifle (400+ DPS) > Repper (Max 102hp/s) 400+ DPS is if most bullets land, very few people in this game have the aiming to land every shot on someone who knows how to properly strafe.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1356	Posted - 2013.07.01 14:54:00 - [8] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Cal Logi > Gal Logi Gal logi > Gal Assault Cal Assault > Gal Logi Those 5hp/s inherent, combined with 5 low slots really make all the difference in the world. And still it's not enough :\ That's how terrible armor is in it's current form. But hey, at least I'm finally enjoying this game as an armor tanker. now you just need a dedicaded repper behind you Assault rifle (400+ DPS) > Repper (Max 102hp/s) 400+ DPS is if most bullets land, very few people in this game have the aiming to land every shot on someone who knows how to properly strafe. If you land even half your bullets that's still more.
Galthur CrimeWave Syndicate 92	Posted - 2013.07.01 14:55:00 - [9] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Cal Logi > Gal Logi Gal logi > Gal Assault Cal Assault > Gal Logi Those 5hp/s inherent, combined with 5 low slots really make all the difference in the world. And still it's not enough :\ That's how terrible armor is in it's current form. But hey, at least I'm finally enjoying this game as an armor tanker. now you just need a dedicaded repper behind you Assault rifle (400+ DPS) > Repper (Max 102hp/s) 400+ DPS is if most bullets land, very few people in this game have the aiming to land every shot on someone who knows how to properly strafe. Close, medium, or long range?
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1356	Posted - 2013.07.01 14:55:00 - [10] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Quit making us heavies sad by reminding us that medium frames, when broken, tend to tank damage better than us....or at least just as good as...(please remember movement speed / strafe speed / and hit boxes before complaining that your medium suit has 50 less EHP than a heavy) I have sooo much more trouble killing logi's and assaults than I do heavies, heavies are a joke unless they catch you off guard or are fully tanked with a dedicated repper or two. Thankfully we can be medium frames now with the Commandon't, oh boy! 1000 base eHP. My suit has 600 eHP and I'm moving at your speed. Keep whining.

Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1356	Posted - 2013.07.01 14:56:00 - [11] - Quote XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: Cat Merc wrote: XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Cal Logi > Gal Logi Gal logi > Gal Assault Cal Assault > Gal Logi Those 5hp/s inherent, combined with 5 low slots really make all the difference in the world. And still it's not enough :\ That's how terrible armor is in it's current form. But hey, at least I'm finally enjoying this game as an armor tanker. now you just need a dedicaded repper behind you Assault rifle (400+ DPS) > Repper (Max 102hp/s) throw down a triage also And then I'm stationary. Yay Oh, what is that? A flux grenade? No more triage nanohive for me!
Callidus Vanus Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 75	Posted - 2013.07.01 14:57:00 - [12] - Quote Cal assault suits are supposed to be better then gal logi in a fight, its an Assault suit. Logistics are meant to be a support suit. That's the reason why the description of the cal logi makes me laugh.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4223	Posted - 2013.07.01 14:58:00 - [13] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: 1000 base eHP. My suit has 600 eHP and I'm moving at your speed. Keep whining. It's been a few builds since I've heard anyone complain much about having trouble taking down a heavy Those WP must be nice from all the equipment you have while you collect kills with your combat medic super hero Lolgi's are lol
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1356	Posted - 2013.07.01 15:03:00 - [14] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Cat Merc wrote: 1000 base eHP. My suit has 600 eHP and I'm moving at your speed. Keep whining. It's been a few builds since I've heard anyone complain much about having trouble taking down a heavy Those WP must be nice from all the equipment you have while you collect kills with your combat medic super hero Lolgi's are lol Callidus Vanus wrote: Cal assault suits are supposed to be better then gal logi in a fight, its an Assault suit. Logistics are meant to be a support suit. That's the reason why the description of the cal logi makes me laugh. Lolgi players believe that they should be just as good as Assault players, or just about, while still retaining their support status. Pretty common mentality around here And I want that mentality broken. The only reason I skilled into logi is because they are much better than the assault variant. At least for Gallente and Caldari.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1356	Posted - 2013.07.01 15:05:00 - [15] - Quote Callidus Vanus wrote: Cal assault suits are supposed to be better then gal logi in a fight, its an Assault suit. Logistics are meant to be a support suit. That's the reason why the description of the cal logi makes me laugh. Cal assault > Gal assault Gal assalut < Gal Logi Cal assault > Gal Logi Cal Logi > Gal Logi What does the above tell you? Let me make it clearer: Cal logi beats everything. Cal assault beats all Gallente suits. Gal logi beats the Gallente assault. Gallente assault is the weakest of the bunch.
loumanchew Ametat Security Amarr Empire 26	Posted - 2013.07.01 15:19:00 - [16] - Quote I couldn't help but notice that the scout is not in the equation. Could you please update this list so that I know where I stand in all of this.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1356	Posted - 2013.07.01 15:23:00 - [17] - Quote loumanchew wrote: I couldn't help but notice that the scout is not in the equation. Could you please update this list so that I know where I stand in all of this. Scout <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Everything
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 287	Posted - 2013.07.01 15:27:00 - [18] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Lolgi players believe that they should be just as good as Assault players, or just about, while still retaining their support status. Pretty common mentality around here My Amarr Logistics IS ment to be 'just about as good as Assault players' ... lol @ sidearm but only on proto and 3 low slots to lol active armor tank !
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 329	Posted - 2013.07.01 15:29:00 - [19] - Quote Actually Gallente Logistics is the worst suit, it has the potential to have very high HP, true, but at the cost of being the slowest suit even slower than a heavy. When compared to every other suit, equally focused on HP, the Gallente logistics suit falls as the lowest HP suit in the game. If using all Complex armor modules and complex shield extenders the Gallente Logistics caps at 1187 HP with 3.5 m/s, while a Gallente assault using all complex armor modules, except one basic armor plate because of CPU/PG, and complex shield extenders will cap at 1081 HP with 4.06 HP. That is a 9% difference in HP, and a 14% difference in speed. Caldari Logistics NO racial EHP: 843 Caldari Logistics racial EHP: 934 <-- holy sh... Gallente Logistics EHP: 698 Caldari Assault EHP: 846 Gallente Assault EHP: 773 Gallente Assault 6% speed buff EHP: 828 Gallente Logistics 6% speed buff EHP: 753 CaLogi NO racial -1 High slot EHP: 770 _________ Amarr Assault EHP:811 Amarr Logistics EHP:736 Minmatar Assault EHP: 862 <-- 5.01m/s base speed Minmatar Logistics EHP: 733 <-- 4.72 base speed
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1356	Posted - 2013.07.01 15:33:00 - [20] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Actually Gallente Logistics is the worst suit, it has the potential to have very high HP, true, but at the cost of being the slowest suit even slower than a heavy. When compared to every other suit, equally focused on HP, the Gallente logistics suit falls as the lowest HP suit in the game. Caldari Logistics NO racial EHP: 843 Caldari Logistics racial EHP: 934 <-- holy sh... Gallente Logistics EHP: 698 Caldari Assault EHP: 846 Gallente Assault EHP: 773 Gallente Assault 6% speed buff EHP: 828 Gallente Logistics 6% speed buff EHP: 753 CaLogi NO racial -1 High slot EHP: 770 _________ Amarr Assault EHP:811 Amarr Logistics EHP:736 Minmatar Assault EHP: 862 <-- 5.01m/s base speed Minmatar Logistics EHP: 733 <-- 4.72 base speed The regeneration is what makes this suit. Trust me, it's worth it.

BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 330	Posted - 2013.07.01 15:39:00 - [21] - Quote I do agree with the regeneration bit, but all logistics suit get the same regeneration, higher shield regeneration, and higher HP. When compared to other armor suits then yes the Gallente logistics suit does reign supreme, but that is because other suits don't have a passive armor regen, which is illogical on CCPs part. EDIT: I run a Gallente Logistics also.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 115	Posted - 2013.07.01 15:40:00 - [22] - Quote Logi's need even less base HP or need to lose slots - simple Assaults and Heavies are frontline - Scouts and Logis need to be tactical on the battlefield.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4224	Posted - 2013.07.01 15:42:00 - [23] - Quote I will set aside popcorn for the day that Logistics are forced to be either Support OR Assault, not both I'll set aside a cup too, those tears will help wash down the popcorn. Might as well make that a bucket...it's going to be glorious...I'm pretty sure 1.3 will be bringing the hamma on these turds... ::sets aside popcorn and a bucket::
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 330	Posted - 2013.07.01 15:45:00 - [24] - Quote Well when it does hopefully ill have enough SP to abandon the Logistics suit :)
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1358	Posted - 2013.07.01 15:48:00 - [25] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Well when it does hopefully ill have enough SP to abandon the Logistics suit :) I'm in both the assault and the logi, so whatever happens I'm ready :)
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 331	Posted - 2013.07.01 15:48:00 - [26] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: Well when it does hopefully ill have enough SP to abandon the Logistics suit :) I'm in both the assault and the logi, so whatever happens I'm ready :) I'm not ready :(
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1358	Posted - 2013.07.01 15:51:00 - [27] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Cat Merc wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: Well when it does hopefully ill have enough SP to abandon the Logistics suit :) I'm in both the assault and the logi, so whatever happens I'm ready :) I'm not ready :( Just keep saving up SP :(
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 18	Posted - 2013.07.01 15:58:00 - [28] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Callidus Vanus wrote: Cal assault suits are supposed to be better then gal logi in a fight, its an Assault suit. Logistics are meant to be a support suit. That's the reason why the description of the cal logi makes me laugh. Cal assault > Gal assault Gal assalut < Gal Logi Cal assault > Gal Logi Cal Logi > Gal Logi What does the above tell you? Let me make it clearer: Cal logi beats everything. Cal assault beats all Gallente suits. Gal logi beats the Gallente assault. Gallente assault is the weakest of the bunch. now add amarr XD
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1358	Posted - 2013.07.01 15:59:00 - [29] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Callidus Vanus wrote: Cal assault suits are supposed to be better then gal logi in a fight, its an Assault suit. Logistics are meant to be a support suit. That's the reason why the description of the cal logi makes me laugh. Cal assault > Gal assault Gal assalut < Gal Logi Cal assault > Gal Logi Cal Logi > Gal Logi What does the above tell you? Let me make it clearer: Cal logi beats everything. Cal assault beats all Gallente suits. Gal logi beats the Gallente assault. Gallente assault is the weakest of the bunch. now add amarr XD I wouldn't start claiming anything if I didn't have any experience with a suit. I have only experience with standard level amarr suits and they seem ok.
Rifter7 SyNergy Gaming EoN. 252	Posted - 2013.07.01 16:06:00 - [30] - Quote it's supposed to be cat.. i don't understand? the amarr logi is good at armor tanking, too. the armor ehp is really low, tho, due to split tank.

Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2453	Posted - 2013.07.01 16:25:00 - [31] - Quote Armor tanking isn't as versatile as shield tanking for many reasons still. On a side note, weren't you in Betamax? They still around?
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1359	Posted - 2013.07.01 16:26:00 - [32] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Armor tanking isn't as versatile as shield tanking for many reasons still. On a side note, weren't you in Betamax? They still around? Armor tanking is just plain bad in all areas compared to shields. It's not just about being versatile. Also I just like the name Oculus Felis. I'm still in Betamax, just not in the corp.


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