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        |  Cat Merc
 Oculus Felis
 
 1354
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 14:43:00 -
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 Cal Logi > Gal Logi
 Gal logi > Gal Assault
 Cal Assault > Gal Logi
 
 Those 5hp/s inherent, combined with 5 low slots really make all the difference in the world.
 And still it's not enough :\
 That's how terrible armor is in it's current form.
 
 But hey, at least I'm finally enjoying this game as an armor tanker.
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        |  XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO
 Storm Wind Strikeforce
 Caldari State
 
 23
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 14:45:00 -
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 Cat Merc wrote:Cal Logi > Gal LogiGal logi > Gal Assault
 Cal Assault > Gal Logi
 
 Those 5hp/s inherent, combined with 5 low slots really make all the difference in the world.
 And still it's not enough :\
 That's how terrible armor is in it's current form.
 
 But hey, at least I'm finally enjoying this game as an armor tanker.
 now you just need a dedicaded repper behind you
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        |  Cat Merc
 Oculus Felis
 
 1354
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 14:45:00 -
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 XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Cal Logi > Gal LogiGal logi > Gal Assault
 Cal Assault > Gal Logi
 
 Those 5hp/s inherent, combined with 5 low slots really make all the difference in the world.
 And still it's not enough :\
 That's how terrible armor is in it's current form.
 
 But hey, at least I'm finally enjoying this game as an armor tanker.
 now you just need a dedicaded repper behind you Assault rifle (400+ DPS) > Repper (Max 102hp/s)
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        |  XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO
 Storm Wind Strikeforce
 Caldari State
 
 23
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 14:49:00 -
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 Cat Merc wrote:XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Cal Logi > Gal LogiGal logi > Gal Assault
 Cal Assault > Gal Logi
 
 Those 5hp/s inherent, combined with 5 low slots really make all the difference in the world.
 And still it's not enough :\
 That's how terrible armor is in it's current form.
 
 But hey, at least I'm finally enjoying this game as an armor tanker.
 now you just need a dedicaded repper behind you Assault rifle (400+ DPS) > Repper (Max 102hp/s) throw down a triage also
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        |  Galthur
 CrimeWave Syndicate
 
 92
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 14:50:00 -
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 Cat Merc wrote:Proto Cal Logi > Proto Gal LogiProto Gal logi > Proto Gal Assault
 Proto Cal Assault > Proto Gal Logi
 
 Those 5hp/s inherent, combined with 5 low slots really make all the difference in the world.
 And still it's not enough :\
 Cal assault still gets more HP and more regen in the end.
 Not to mention Cal Logi.
 That's how terrible armor is in it's current form.
 
 But hey, at least I'm finally enjoying this game as an armor tanker.
 fixed
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        |  DUST Fiend
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 4223
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 14:51:00 -
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 Quit making us heavies sad by reminding us that medium frames, when broken, tend to tank damage better than us....or at least just as good as...(please remember movement speed / strafe speed / and hit boxes before complaining that your medium suit has 50 less EHP than a heavy)
 
 I have sooo much more trouble killing logi's and assaults than I do heavies, heavies are a joke unless they catch you off guard or are fully tanked with a dedicated repper or two.
 
 Thankfully we can be medium frames now with the Commandon't, oh boy!
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        |  stlcarlos989
 SVER True Blood
 Public Disorder.
 
 203
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 14:52:00 -
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 Cat Merc wrote:XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Cal Logi > Gal LogiGal logi > Gal Assault
 Cal Assault > Gal Logi
 
 Those 5hp/s inherent, combined with 5 low slots really make all the difference in the world.
 And still it's not enough :\
 That's how terrible armor is in it's current form.
 
 But hey, at least I'm finally enjoying this game as an armor tanker.
 now you just need a dedicaded repper behind you Assault rifle (400+ DPS) > Repper (Max 102hp/s) 
 400+ DPS is if most bullets land, very few people in this game have the aiming to land every shot on someone who knows how to properly strafe.
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        |  Cat Merc
 Oculus Felis
 
 1356
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 14:54:00 -
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 stlcarlos989 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Cal Logi > Gal LogiGal logi > Gal Assault
 Cal Assault > Gal Logi
 
 Those 5hp/s inherent, combined with 5 low slots really make all the difference in the world.
 And still it's not enough :\
 That's how terrible armor is in it's current form.
 
 But hey, at least I'm finally enjoying this game as an armor tanker.
 now you just need a dedicaded repper behind you Assault rifle (400+ DPS) > Repper (Max 102hp/s) 400+ DPS is if most bullets land, very few people in this game have the aiming to land every shot on someone who knows how to properly strafe.  If you land even half your bullets that's still more.
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        |  Galthur
 CrimeWave Syndicate
 
 92
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 14:55:00 -
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 stlcarlos989 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Cal Logi > Gal LogiGal logi > Gal Assault
 Cal Assault > Gal Logi
 
 Those 5hp/s inherent, combined with 5 low slots really make all the difference in the world.
 And still it's not enough :\
 That's how terrible armor is in it's current form.
 
 But hey, at least I'm finally enjoying this game as an armor tanker.
 now you just need a dedicaded repper behind you Assault rifle (400+ DPS) > Repper (Max 102hp/s) 400+ DPS is if most bullets land, very few people in this game have the aiming to land every shot on someone who knows how to properly strafe.  Close, medium, or long range?
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        |  Cat Merc
 Oculus Felis
 
 1356
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 14:55:00 -
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 DUST Fiend wrote:Quit making us heavies sad by reminding us that medium frames, when broken, tend to tank damage better than us....or at least just as good as...(please remember movement speed / strafe speed / and hit boxes before complaining that your medium suit has 50 less EHP than a heavy)
 I have sooo much more trouble killing logi's and assaults than I do heavies, heavies are a joke unless they catch you off guard or are fully tanked with a dedicated repper or two.
 
 Thankfully we can be medium frames now with the Commandon't, oh boy!
 1000 base eHP.
 My suit has 600 eHP and I'm moving at your speed.
 Keep whining.
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        |  Cat Merc
 Oculus Felis
 
 1356
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 14:56:00 -
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 XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:Cat Merc wrote:XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Cal Logi > Gal LogiGal logi > Gal Assault
 Cal Assault > Gal Logi
 
 Those 5hp/s inherent, combined with 5 low slots really make all the difference in the world.
 And still it's not enough :\
 That's how terrible armor is in it's current form.
 
 But hey, at least I'm finally enjoying this game as an armor tanker.
 now you just need a dedicaded repper behind you Assault rifle (400+ DPS) > Repper (Max 102hp/s) throw down a triage also And then I'm stationary.
 Yay
 Oh, what is that?
 A flux grenade?
 No more triage nanohive for me!
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        |  Callidus Vanus
 Dead Six Initiative
 Lokun Listamenn
 
 75
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 14:57:00 -
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 Cal assault suits are supposed to be better then gal logi in a fight, its an Assault suit.
 
 Logistics are meant to be a support suit. That's the reason why the description of the cal logi makes me laugh.
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        |  DUST Fiend
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 4223
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 14:58:00 -
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 Cat Merc wrote:1000 base eHP.My suit has 600 eHP and I'm moving at your speed.
 Keep whining.
 It's been a few builds since I've heard anyone complain much about having trouble taking down a heavy
  
 Those WP must be nice from all the equipment you have while you collect kills with your combat medic super hero
 
 
  
 Lolgi's are lol
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        |  Cat Merc
 Oculus Felis
 
 1356
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 15:03:00 -
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 DUST Fiend wrote:Cat Merc wrote:1000 base eHP.My suit has 600 eHP and I'm moving at your speed.
 Keep whining.
 It's been a few builds since I've heard anyone complain much about having trouble taking down a heavy   Those WP must be nice from all the equipment you have while you collect kills with your combat medic super hero   Lolgi's are lol  Callidus Vanus wrote:Cal assault suits are supposed to be better then gal logi in a fight, its an Assault suit. 
 Logistics are meant to be a support suit. That's the reason why the description of the cal logi makes me laugh.
 Lolgi players believe that they should be just as good as Assault players, or just about, while still retaining their support status. Pretty common mentality around here And I want that mentality broken.
 The only reason I skilled into logi is because they are much better than the assault variant.
 At least for Gallente and Caldari.
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        |  Cat Merc
 Oculus Felis
 
 1356
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 15:05:00 -
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 Callidus Vanus wrote:Cal assault suits are supposed to be better then gal logi in a fight, its an Assault suit. 
 Logistics are meant to be a support suit. That's the reason why the description of the cal logi makes me laugh.
 Cal assault > Gal assault
 Gal assalut < Gal Logi
 Cal assault > Gal Logi
 Cal Logi > Gal Logi
 
 What does the above tell you?
 Let me make it clearer:
 Cal logi beats everything.
 Cal assault beats all Gallente suits.
 Gal logi beats the Gallente assault.
 Gallente assault is the weakest of the bunch.
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        |  loumanchew
 Ametat Security
 Amarr Empire
 
 26
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 15:19:00 -
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 I couldn't help but notice that the scout is not in the equation. Could you please update this list so that I know where I stand in all of this.
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        |  Cat Merc
 Oculus Felis
 
 1356
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 15:23:00 -
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 loumanchew wrote:I couldn't help but notice that the scout is not in the equation. Could you please update this list so that I know where I stand in all of this. Scout <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Everything
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        |  Needless Sacermendor
 Red Fox Brigade
 
 287
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 15:27:00 -
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 DUST Fiend wrote:Lolgi players believe that they should be just as good as Assault players, or just about, while still retaining their support status. Pretty common mentality around here My Amarr Logistics IS ment to be 'just about as good as Assault players' ... lol @ sidearm but only on proto and 3 low slots to lol active armor tank !
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        |  BL4CKST4R
 WarRavens
 League of Infamy
 
 329
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 15:29:00 -
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 Actually Gallente Logistics is the worst suit, it has the potential to have very high HP, true, but at the cost of being the slowest suit even slower than a heavy.
 
 When compared to every other suit, equally focused on HP, the Gallente logistics suit falls as the lowest HP suit in the game.
 
 If using all Complex armor modules and complex shield extenders the Gallente Logistics caps at 1187 HP with 3.5 m/s, while a Gallente assault using all complex armor modules, except one basic armor plate because of CPU/PG, and complex shield extenders will cap at 1081 HP with 4.06 HP. That is a 9% difference in HP, and a 14% difference in speed.
 
 Caldari Logistics NO racial
 EHP: 843
 
 Caldari Logistics racial
 EHP: 934 <-- holy sh...
 
 Gallente Logistics
 EHP: 698
 
 Caldari Assault
 EHP: 846
 
 Gallente Assault
 EHP: 773
 
 Gallente Assault 6% speed buff
 EHP: 828
 
 Gallente Logistics 6% speed buff
 EHP: 753
 
 CaLogi NO racial -1 High slot
 EHP: 770
 
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 Amarr Assault
 EHP:811
 
 Amarr Logistics
 EHP:736
 
 Minmatar Assault
 EHP: 862 <-- 5.01m/s base speed
 
 Minmatar Logistics
 EHP: 733 <-- 4.72 base speed
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        |  Cat Merc
 Oculus Felis
 
 1356
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 15:33:00 -
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 The regeneration is what makes this suit.
 Trust me, it's worth it.
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        |  BL4CKST4R
 WarRavens
 League of Infamy
 
 330
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 15:39:00 -
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 I do agree with the regeneration bit, but all logistics suit get the same regeneration, higher shield regeneration, and higher HP. When compared to other armor suits then yes the Gallente logistics suit does reign supreme, but that is because other suits don't have a passive armor regen, which is illogical on CCPs part.
 
 EDIT: I run a Gallente Logistics also.
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        |  Daxxis KANNAH
 Tronhadar Free Guard
 Minmatar Republic
 
 115
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 15:40:00 -
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 Logi's need even less base HP or need to lose slots - simple
 
 Assaults and Heavies are frontline - Scouts and Logis need to be tactical on the battlefield.
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        |  DUST Fiend
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 4224
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 15:42:00 -
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 I will set aside popcorn for the day that Logistics are forced to be either Support OR Assault, not both
 
 I'll set aside a cup too, those tears will help wash down the popcorn. Might as well make that a bucket...it's going to be glorious...I'm pretty sure 1.3 will be bringing the hamma on these turds...
 
 ::sets aside popcorn and a bucket::
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        |  BL4CKST4R
 WarRavens
 League of Infamy
 
 330
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 15:45:00 -
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 Well when it does hopefully ill have enough SP to abandon the Logistics suit :)
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        |  Cat Merc
 Oculus Felis
 
 1358
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 15:48:00 -
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 BL4CKST4R wrote:Well when it does hopefully ill have enough SP to abandon the Logistics suit :) I'm in both the assault and the logi, so whatever happens I'm ready :)
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        |  BL4CKST4R
 WarRavens
 League of Infamy
 
 331
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 15:48:00 -
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 Cat Merc wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Well when it does hopefully ill have enough SP to abandon the Logistics suit :) I'm in both the assault and the logi, so whatever happens I'm ready :) 
 I'm not ready :(
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        |  Cat Merc
 Oculus Felis
 
 1358
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 15:51:00 -
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 BL4CKST4R wrote:Cat Merc wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Well when it does hopefully ill have enough SP to abandon the Logistics suit :) I'm in both the assault and the logi, so whatever happens I'm ready :) I'm not ready :( Just keep saving up SP :(
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        |  Nocturnal Soul
 Immortal Retribution
 
 18
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 15:58:00 -
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 Cat Merc wrote:Callidus Vanus wrote:Cal assault suits are supposed to be better then gal logi in a fight, its an Assault suit. 
 Logistics are meant to be a support suit. That's the reason why the description of the cal logi makes me laugh.
 Cal assault > Gal assault Gal assalut < Gal Logi Cal assault > Gal Logi Cal Logi > Gal Logi What does the above tell you? Let me make it clearer: Cal logi beats everything. Cal assault beats all Gallente suits. Gal logi beats the Gallente assault. Gallente assault is the weakest of the bunch. 
 now add amarr XD
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        |  Cat Merc
 Oculus Felis
 
 1358
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 15:59:00 -
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 Nocturnal Soul wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Callidus Vanus wrote:Cal assault suits are supposed to be better then gal logi in a fight, its an Assault suit. 
 Logistics are meant to be a support suit. That's the reason why the description of the cal logi makes me laugh.
 Cal assault > Gal assault Gal assalut < Gal Logi Cal assault > Gal Logi Cal Logi > Gal Logi What does the above tell you? Let me make it clearer: Cal logi beats everything. Cal assault beats all Gallente suits. Gal logi beats the Gallente assault. Gallente assault is the weakest of the bunch. now add amarr XD I wouldn't start claiming anything if I didn't have any experience with a suit.
 I have only experience with standard level amarr suits and they seem ok.
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        |  Rifter7
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 252
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.07.01 16:06:00 -
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 it's supposed to be cat.. i don't understand?
 
 the amarr logi is good at armor tanking, too. the armor ehp is really low, tho, due to split tank.
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