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Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1351
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Posted - 2013.07.01 13:53:00 -
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I mean really, they are pathetic. I think giving them the same nanite amount as a standard but only having one instead of two would be good. |

Tectonious Falcon
Phaze O n e
619
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Posted - 2013.07.01 13:54:00 -
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Nano hives were fine and CCP shouldn't have touched them. |

Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
166
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Posted - 2013.07.01 13:55:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:I mean really, they are pathetic. One grenade and one clip and it's gone lol I think giving them the same nanite amount as a standard but only having one instead of two would be good. Yep. |

Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T EoN.
273
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Posted - 2013.07.01 13:55:00 -
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No, you want cheap, their certainly cheap. skill to advanced, and their prime |

sammus420
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
168
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Posted - 2013.07.01 13:55:00 -
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Kinda. They're pretty much useless, even for restocking yourself. For restocking team mates, they're even more useless. And anytime something is effectively useless, it probably needs to be worked on a little.
But that's your incentive to level up and spend more isk on better ones! |

Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1352
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:07:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:No, you want cheap, their certainly cheap. skill to advanced, and their prime bro. This isn't about me, I'm rich, I use proto nanohives (unless I don't have space on my suit for a proto one). It's about the newbies, who have nothing but militia stuff. |

Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1352
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:08:00 -
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Tectonious Falcon wrote:Nano hives were fine and CCP shouldn't have touched them. No, they weren't. I had no incentive to go up from militia nanohives, or standard nanohives. The idea behind the change is good, the execution isn't. (CCP in a nutshell?) |

Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1352
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:09:00 -
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sammus420 wrote:Kinda. They're pretty much useless, even for restocking yourself. For restocking team mates, they're even more useless. And anytime something is effectively useless, it probably needs to be worked on a little.
But that's your incentive to level up and spend more isk on better ones! Remember, the entry level stuff is for newbies. They're going to use it and see how terrible it is and never skill into it. It's not like they are visiting the forums or watch the patch notes like us, they won't have a clue that going up the levels will give them more ammo. |

Medic 1879
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
488
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:17:00 -
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It has led to the creation of a new mini game though I like to run a cheap suit from time to time with MLT nanohives, I get on team chat and shout dropping proto nanohive at X location. Then listen to the rage/disbelief when the hive is used up before the bubble animation is even rendered. |

Colonel Killar
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
65
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:22:00 -
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I agree with the OP the CPU and PG easily out wieghs the need for reduced nanite count |
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Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1353
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:22:00 -
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Medic 1879 wrote:It has led to the creation of a new mini game though I like to run a cheap suit from time to time with MLT nanohives, I get on team chat and shout dropping proto nanohive at X location. Then listen to the rage/disbelief when the hive is used up before the bubble animation is even rendered. :D |

Daedric Lothar
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
786
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:24:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:sammus420 wrote:Kinda. They're pretty much useless, even for restocking yourself. For restocking team mates, they're even more useless. And anytime something is effectively useless, it probably needs to be worked on a little.
But that's your incentive to level up and spend more isk on better ones! Remember, the entry level stuff is for newbies. They're going to use it and see how terrible it is and never skill into it. It's not like they are visiting the forums or watch the patch notes like us, they won't have a clue that going up the levels will give them more ammo.
I miss nanohives being awesome. |

Cody Sietz
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
272
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:26:00 -
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STD were nerfed pretty bad as well (tho they did lower the price to only 900 isk which isn't too bad) |

Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T EoN.
273
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:26:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:No, you want cheap, their certainly cheap. skill to advanced, and their prime bro. This isn't about me, I'm rich, I use proto nanohives (unless I don't have space on my suit for a proto one). It's about the newbies, who have nothing but militia stuff.
I'm still thinking that how they are should be fine, I understand the new player aspect, but also think its a good learning curve, you want better, roadmap it for your SP choices. Its also in the core skills section, which isn't a bad lace for newberries to be heading. |

Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1354
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:31:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Cat Merc wrote:sammus420 wrote:Kinda. They're pretty much useless, even for restocking yourself. For restocking team mates, they're even more useless. And anytime something is effectively useless, it probably needs to be worked on a little.
But that's your incentive to level up and spend more isk on better ones! Remember, the entry level stuff is for newbies. They're going to use it and see how terrible it is and never skill into it. It's not like they are visiting the forums or watch the patch notes like us, they won't have a clue that going up the levels will give them more ammo. I miss nanohives being awesome. Advanced and prototype nanohives are still awesome. |

Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1354
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:32:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:No, you want cheap, their certainly cheap. skill to advanced, and their prime bro. This isn't about me, I'm rich, I use proto nanohives (unless I don't have space on my suit for a proto one). It's about the newbies, who have nothing but militia stuff. I'm still thinking that how they are should be fine, I understand the new player aspect, but also think its a good learning curve, you want better, roadmap it for your SP choices. Its also in the core skills section, which isn't a bad lace for newberries to be heading. Dude, they're going to see how terrible the militia version is and never skill up. Think about it this way, where does the game tell them that the advanced and prototype nanohives are a significant jump up? |

Green Living
0uter.Heaven League of Infamy
466
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:32:00 -
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It's militia, it's supposed to be trash. |

Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1354
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:34:00 -
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Green Living wrote:It's militia, it's supposed to be trash. To a point. |

Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T EoN.
275
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:44:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:No, you want cheap, their certainly cheap. skill to advanced, and their prime bro. This isn't about me, I'm rich, I use proto nanohives (unless I don't have space on my suit for a proto one). It's about the newbies, who have nothing but militia stuff. I'm still thinking that how they are should be fine, I understand the new player aspect, but also think its a good learning curve, you want better, roadmap it for your SP choices. Its also in the core skills section, which isn't a bad lace for newberries to be heading. Dude, they're going to see how terrible the militia version is and never skill up. Think about it this way, where does the game tell them that the advanced and prototype nanohives are a significant jump up?
How would they know anything gets better onced SP is sunk, because that is the theme of the game, and it pretty obvious pretty early.
Also the amount the militia gives isn't the problem either, its the speed, how many bullets per cluster, for a sniper it goes +2.........................+2...................................+2 lol, its like waiting to get aids.
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Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1354
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:46:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:No, you want cheap, their certainly cheap. skill to advanced, and their prime bro. This isn't about me, I'm rich, I use proto nanohives (unless I don't have space on my suit for a proto one). It's about the newbies, who have nothing but militia stuff. I'm still thinking that how they are should be fine, I understand the new player aspect, but also think its a good learning curve, you want better, roadmap it for your SP choices. Its also in the core skills section, which isn't a bad lace for newberries to be heading. Dude, they're going to see how terrible the militia version is and never skill up. Think about it this way, where does the game tell them that the advanced and prototype nanohives are a significant jump up? How would they know anything gets better onced SP is sunk, because that is the theme of the game, and it pretty obvious pretty early. Also the amount the militia gives isn't the problem either, its the speed, how many bullets per cluster, for a sniper it goes +2.........................+2...................................+2 lol, its like waiting to get aids. That's not as big of a deal. The problem is that I can get maybe half of the max bullets in an AR before it disappears. And you only get one. |
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Daedric Lothar
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
789
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:47:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:Cat Merc wrote:sammus420 wrote:Kinda. They're pretty much useless, even for restocking yourself. For restocking team mates, they're even more useless. And anytime something is effectively useless, it probably needs to be worked on a little.
But that's your incentive to level up and spend more isk on better ones! Remember, the entry level stuff is for newbies. They're going to use it and see how terrible it is and never skill into it. It's not like they are visiting the forums or watch the patch notes like us, they won't have a clue that going up the levels will give them more ammo. I miss nanohives being awesome. Advanced and prototype nanohives are still awesome.
I'm cheap, I always run standard and Milt in pubs just to keep things nice and fair (Even though I run in a squad of 6 and our team typically murders them, but at least I wasn't in a PRO suit. But then again i'm bad at this game, not terribad, just bad)
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XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:48:00 -
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if your assault just dont carry militia locus nades they kill the hive
if you just have assault rifle and sidearm they work fine
also tell those dirty Ammar scrubs to keep their mittens out of your nano |

Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1356
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:49:00 -
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XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:if your assault just dont carry militia locus nades they kill the hive if you just have assault rifle and sidearm they work fine also tell those dirty Ammar scrubs to keep their mittens out of your nano  Then make nanohives stop creating grenades >.< |

Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
53
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Posted - 2013.07.01 15:24:00 -
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I never really thought about them being terrible. I suppose they are. I use only the standard one, and while its slow and runs out, it does sort of get the job done. I think the militia version should get the second carried nanohive of the standard one, and they could both use a little buff to their capacity. |

Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1356
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Posted - 2013.07.01 15:28:00 -
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Oso Peresoso wrote:I never really thought about them being terrible. I suppose they are. I use only the standard one, and while its slow and runs out, it does sort of get the job done. I think the militia version should get the second carried nanohive of the standard one, and they could both use a little buff to their capacity. No buff to standard. Buff militia nanite clusters to the same amount as the standard nanohive. The difference being that the standard lets you carry two, the militia lets you carry one. |
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