DUST Search - [Roadmap Feedback] PvE isn't on the roadmap? Disappointed :( Info please?

Mobius Wyvern wrote:

Tony Calif wrote:

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=988205#post988205

I'm disappointed & concerned by the lack of any mention of PvE, Industry and the "Infestation" game mode which I'm assuming is the PvEvP element of Dust.

I would really like an idea of when this key part of Dust is planned for? I can remember Dev responses from months ago saying they'd like to get it in for release but weren't sure. Soon after release was another answer. I've not noticed anything more recently.

PvEvP is for me a major attraction in EvE. I might be rubbish, but if I can supply my less rubbish friends with gubbinz I build, find or buy I am fueling the war machine.

Infestation attacks are perhaps the single best method of keeping less elite corps in Planetary conquest, as their ability to dish out PvE attacks on elitest PvP corps would make them valuable to those same PvP corps.

Please, can I get an approximate and non concrete answer on when PvE is planned for, and if infestation follow after, or be released at the same time?

PS: Name the update "Infestation" too. Make some EvE event vs Drones. Incursion in the Heath :D

Can they even add something like that without a major update?

Major as in Expansion?

I don't think the PvE is something they could patch in with a server-side hotfix like they are with the stuff they're doing right now. Seems to me that would have to be something released with a whole new build of the game, so possibly for the first expansion which will likely be at the end of this year, around November.

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Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2401	Posted - 2013.06.30 14:25:00 - [1] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=988205#post988205 I'm disappointed & concerned by the lack of any mention of PvE, Industry and the "Infestation" game mode which I'm assuming is the PvEvP element of Dust. I would really like an idea of when this key part of Dust is planned for? I can remember Dev responses from months ago saying they'd like to get it in for release but weren't sure. Soon after release was another answer. I've not noticed anything more recently. PvEvP is for me a major attraction in EvE. I might be rubbish, but if I can supply my less rubbish friends with gubbinz I build, find or buy I am fueling the war machine. Infestation attacks are perhaps the single best method of keeping less elite corps in Planetary conquest, as their ability to dish out PvE attacks on elitest PvP corps would make them valuable to those same PvP corps. Please, can I get an approximate and non concrete answer on when PvE is planned for, and if infestation follow after, or be released at the same time? PS: Name the update "Infestation" too. Make some EvE event vs Drones. Incursion in the Heath :D
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 2121	Posted - 2013.06.30 14:37:00 - [2] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=988205#post988205 I'm disappointed & concerned by the lack of any mention of PvE, Industry and the "Infestation" game mode which I'm assuming is the PvEvP element of Dust. I would really like an idea of when this key part of Dust is planned for? I can remember Dev responses from months ago saying they'd like to get it in for release but weren't sure. Soon after release was another answer. I've not noticed anything more recently. PvEvP is for me a major attraction in EvE. I might be rubbish, but if I can supply my less rubbish friends with gubbinz I build, find or buy I am fueling the war machine. Infestation attacks are perhaps the single best method of keeping less elite corps in Planetary conquest, as their ability to dish out PvE attacks on elitest PvP corps would make them valuable to those same PvP corps. Please, can I get an approximate and non concrete answer on when PvE is planned for, and if infestation follow after, or be released at the same time? PS: Name the update "Infestation" too. Make some EvE event vs Drones. Incursion in the Heath :D Can they even add something like that without a major update? Major as in Expansion? I don't think the PvE is something they could patch in with a server-side hotfix like they are with the stuff they're doing right now. Seems to me that would have to be something released with a whole new build of the game, so possibly for the first expansion which will likely be at the end of this year, around November.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 298	Posted - 2013.06.30 14:54:00 - [3] - Quote Someone said at one point that in it's current form that an npc drone took up just as much , or more, space in the sver then a player hence why they may have not been added I'm most likely wrong though
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1575	Posted - 2013.06.30 15:35:00 - [4] - Quote CCP appearently doesnt care about it. I assume the only reason why the still pushing half bothered content to this game is due to their contract to sony.
Pro'fane RestlessSpirits 6	Posted - 2013.06.30 16:34:00 - [5] - Quote PvE was used to get me to try this game in the first place. 'Play PvP now, and they'll add PvE later and you'll know what you're doing.' Sigh. Personally, I really doubt PvE will ever be added, given how many issues PvP still has. Glitches, balancing, etc. Even assuming that Dust has a big enough playerbase to be considered 'worth it' to expand to PvE.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1221	Posted - 2013.06.30 18:25:00 - [6] - Quote As much as I would love to have some PvE in this game (seriously I would, I'm on hiatus until something interesting rolls around), people have been complaining very loudly about the core mechanics of the game, so CCP is addressing the core mechanics of the game. People got what they want.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 492	Posted - 2013.06.30 19:27:00 - [7] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Tony Calif wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=988205#post988205 I'm disappointed & concerned by the lack of any mention of PvE, Industry and the "Infestation" game mode which I'm assuming is the PvEvP element of Dust. I would really like an idea of when this key part of Dust is planned for? I can remember Dev responses from months ago saying they'd like to get it in for release but weren't sure. Soon after release was another answer. I've not noticed anything more recently. PvEvP is for me a major attraction in EvE. I might be rubbish, but if I can supply my less rubbish friends with gubbinz I build, find or buy I am fueling the war machine. Infestation attacks are perhaps the single best method of keeping less elite corps in Planetary conquest, as their ability to dish out PvE attacks on elitest PvP corps would make them valuable to those same PvP corps. Please, can I get an approximate and non concrete answer on when PvE is planned for, and if infestation follow after, or be released at the same time? PS: Name the update "Infestation" too. Make some EvE event vs Drones. Incursion in the Heath :D Can they even add something like that without a major update? Major as in Expansion? I don't think the PvE is something they could patch in with a server-side hotfix like they are with the stuff they're doing right now. Seems to me that would have to be something released with a whole new build of the game, so possibly for the first expansion which will likely be at the end of this year, around November. I am so tired of PvP on the same maps. I really do hope that the next expansion has something PvE in it.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 5502	Posted - 2013.06.30 21:18:00 - [8] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=988205#post988205 I'm disappointed & concerned by the lack of any mention of PvE, Industry and the "Infestation" game mode which I'm assuming is the PvEvP element of Dust. I would really like an idea of when this key part of Dust is planned for? I can remember Dev responses from months ago saying they'd like to get it in for release but weren't sure. Soon after release was another answer. I've not noticed anything more recently. PvEvP is for me a major attraction in EvE. I might be rubbish, but if I can supply my less rubbish friends with gubbinz I build, find or buy I am fueling the war machine. Infestation attacks are perhaps the single best method of keeping less elite corps in Planetary conquest, as their ability to dish out PvE attacks on elitest PvP corps would make them valuable to those same PvP corps. Please, can I get an approximate and non concrete answer on when PvE is planned for, and if infestation follow after, or be released at the same time? PS: Name the update "Infestation" too. Make some EvE event vs Drones. Incursion in the Heath :D Road map doesn't exactly remove the PVE as a feature it may be implimented as part of one of the roadmap solutions. That's the problem with a vague and broad roadmap is that anything can literally litter the entire map.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2403	Posted - 2013.07.01 00:22:00 - [9] - Quote I'm just looking for a rough and ready guesstimate, ideally from CCP :(
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2403	Posted - 2013.07.01 09:03:00 - [10] - Quote Bump on a Monday morning...

Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1044	Posted - 2013.07.01 09:43:00 - [11] - Quote I'd like to see this as well. I doesn't need to be with 32 players on the same map either. I'd be fine with team or squad vs. E. Just, you know, something other than all this team deathmatch business.
Gaelon Thrace DUST University Ivy League 21	Posted - 2013.07.01 17:29:00 - [12] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Someone said at one point that in it's current form that an npc drone took up just as much , or more, space in the sver then a player hence why they may have not been added I'm most likely wrong though That was the reason for not adding player deployed drones any time soon (but they're "looking at it"). PvE is still on the road map.
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 511	Posted - 2013.07.01 17:36:00 - [13] - Quote Releasing an immature version PVE would be a terribly poor decision. It has to be internally tested more than ever in dust before, and also have a lot of content. Straight from the beginning. I personally think PVE will hurt dust and make PVP matches even harder to matchmake. Also, I think it is a huge threat to Dust PVP because currenlty new players only choice is to play the rough pub matches and swallow up bitter defeat time after time. With PVE as an option, I believe anyone but the most determined will be swapping over to PVE and never return. Hence, a threat for Dust's long term future. But that really is my personal opinion.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2403	Posted - 2013.07.01 18:08:00 - [14] - Quote You might have a point there Kero. Defiance has thousands online, but it's pretty tricky getting into PvP except at the weekends. I disagree that the PvE needs to be fully flushed out with content... Just look at our lack of PvP content :P Also leaving it "bare bones" would keep PvP the main attraction of Dust. I'm certainly not saying make PvE top priority. I'd just like a rough idea when I can look at playing Dust again outside of Corp battles. Like 2013, 2014 or 2015 sort of thing. I don't want PvE to be a Station Walking fiasco.
Jathniel G I A N T EoN. 552	Posted - 2013.07.01 18:15:00 - [15] - Quote Destructoid Blog where CCP addresses PVE I'm fairly confident it's coming soon. We won't see something like Penetration for a while. But let's give it time. I recommend putting in for a respec, until then. I did, and that breathed new life into the game for me. I'll be good for another 3 months or so, before I start getting agitated for content again.
Oso Peresoso RisingSuns 56	Posted - 2013.07.01 18:15:00 - [16] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Releasing an immature version PVE would be a terribly poor decision. It has to be internally tested more than ever in dust before, and also have a lot of content. Straight from the beginning. I personally think PVE will hurt dust and make PVP matches even harder to matchmake. Also, I think it is a huge threat to Dust PVP because currenlty new players only choice is to play the rough pub matches and swallow up bitter defeat time after time. With PVE as an option, I believe anyone but the most determined will be swapping over to PVE and never return. Hence, a threat for Dust's long term future. But that really is my personal opinion. Solution, make PVE battles a limited option instead of endlessly repeatable and on-demand. This could also serve to drive the PvEvP aspect of it all. I think the game should have PVE simply because it would broaden the appeal I think, and give a people to use their proto gear if they're not good enough to go 27-1 in pubs. However, if you want to do industry, I think Dust-related industry should happen in Eve, rather than reinventing the wheel on a platform poorly suited for it.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2403	Posted - 2013.07.01 20:20:00 - [17] - Quote @Oso I cannot see any reason Dust industry should be kept EvE side. (simple T1 stuff, get parts, stick it together, PAPOW manufactured gun/suit). It's hardly reinventing the wheel. Industry is for another topic though. I agree with your other points. PvE could work like Faction Warfare, but in space occupied by an incursion. Limited planets & districts where PvE can happen. Survival game mode, and a defend the objective mode would be enough to start with. We're talking about what PvE & PvEvP should entail, which isn't the point of this thread though. @Jath The destructoid article is what really had me expecting PvE and possibly PvEvP to be on the roadmap. I'm just curious as to why they're not there, and when we might expect news on PvE.
Meeko Fent Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 111	Posted - 2013.07.01 20:25:00 - [18] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Tony Calif wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=988205#post988205 I'm disappointed & concerned by the lack of any mention of PvE, Industry and the "Infestation" game mode which I'm assuming is the PvEvP element of Dust. I would really like an idea of when this key part of Dust is planned for? I can remember Dev responses from months ago saying they'd like to get it in for release but weren't sure. Soon after release was another answer. I've not noticed anything more recently. PvEvP is for me a major attraction in EvE. I might be rubbish, but if I can supply my less rubbish friends with gubbinz I build, find or buy I am fueling the war machine. Infestation attacks are perhaps the single best method of keeping less elite corps in Planetary conquest, as their ability to dish out PvE attacks on elitest PvP corps would make them valuable to those same PvP corps. Please, can I get an approximate and non concrete answer on when PvE is planned for, and if infestation follow after, or be released at the same time? PS: Name the update "Infestation" too. Make some EvE event vs Drones. Incursion in the Heath :D Can they even add something like that without a major update? Major as in Expansion? I don't think the PvE is something they could patch in with a server-side hotfix like they are with the stuff they're doing right now. Seems to me that would have to be something released with a whole new build of the game, so possibly for the first expansion which will likely be at the end of this year, around November. I Couldn't give two Shiites if it was an Update I had to wait 3 hours for just to Download the update, and another 3 to install I Like the Game, and I want it to fight on, but being able to fight Wimpy Drones as Opposed to being Munched By Proto Stomping Gods would bring many back from the repeated gameplay of CoD and BF. Kill, Die Respawn. Die, Respawn. Kill, Kill, Kill, Die, Respawn. I don't care when PvE is added, just Email me when its here, and I'll come Running. And maybe by then PvP Will Be Balanced, and it will be a good PvP Game Don't Call me a Fanboi. I just like being able expect something new when I come back in a day/week/month/year Just Hope the Player base don't Erode away by then.
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4 Expert Intervention Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.07.01 20:35:00 - [19] - Quote 1. Their roadmap is more like a to-do list which can change all the time, because of a. players QQs shifts priorities b. they don't know how or when things can be done. 2. PvE was advertised even less than EVE's walking-in-station so the likelihood of it happening is non-existent. Also think about whether CCP knows how to code the A.I., not to mention a completely new mode of gameplay. 3. 1.2 comes out tomorrow, I'm excited to see what is broken this time.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2403	Posted - 2013.07.02 09:10:00 - [20] - Quote Tuesday Morning Bump...

Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 52	Posted - 2013.07.02 09:28:00 - [21] - Quote PVEVP DO IT CCP WE NEED THIS LIKE WE ANOTHER MAP AND NEW GAMEMODES
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 610	Posted - 2013.07.02 09:35:00 - [22] - Quote Prob put on the back burner to get the game we alreqady have running smooth, then they can bolt on shiney new things.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 600	Posted - 2013.07.02 10:03:00 - [23] - Quote Not exactly something they should be 'bolting on. people have been calling for PvE since replication. The game at the moment has a single dull, flat, and boring facet. Same maps, same objectives, same game.. over and over, and over.... More facets are needed. It will a) give us something to play with. b) oooooo shiny...., c) take the focus away from the dull-eyed sad grind of PvP...d) ooo shiny.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2403	Posted - 2013.07.04 09:22:00 - [24] - Quote Thursday morning bump...


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