You know what is really awful? Guns using bullets, and reloading. Am I right? Why should I even shoot? I should just point the gun at them and they should die.

I think it sucks

the only time it doesnt effect me is when im a scout

You know what is really awful? Guns using bullets, and reloading. Am I right? Why should I even shoot? I should just point the gun at them and they should die.

Sarcasm that always help solve problems. But seriously though I'm not trying to QQ but stamina for melee attacks doesn't make sense to me, if everyone in the dust community wants it then so be it but I can't be the only one who feels this way.

No great man in history that made a difference was sarcastic.

Do you even know who Winston Churchill was?

Anyways, I think it's alright. The mechanic of using stamina for melee attacks means that you can't sprint up to someone to melee them, melee is instead a defensive move.

If you think melee using stamina is stupid, try sprinting 50-100 meters and then immediately punching an 80 pound bag hard enough to make it do more than just shake. If you can, good for you, you will notice it is harder to do than just standing in front of the bag and punching. If you can't, you will still notice it is harder to do than just standing and punching. Either way, you have defeated your own argument. Congratulations!

That's just one person.

Seriously 1/5 of my stamina for slamming the butt of my gun into the back of an enemy's head. What do you guys think, because honestly I think melee attacks shouldn't use stamina.

Go take a boxing lesson then come back and tell us Melee does not take stamina

You can tell how well a father raised a son to be a man by how sarcastically smug the son is. No great man in history that made a difference was sarcastic. Anyway...

Yeah I think it's stupid. Using nova knives requires no stamina whatsoever, plus it does, what, 5x more damage when using proto IshNoks without even using any damage mods or perks? Plus with Nova Knives you're swinging two arms, as opposed to just one with regular melee.

Right now, it may be a bad idea to have stamina-free meleeing. I can only imagine how many people are going to run around spamming melee after missing every bullet 5 feet away from an enemy because the aiming is goddamned atrocious.

That's just one person. And as for my other point about Knives striking twice with one attack and requiring no stamina?

Let's not pick and choose our arguments just so we don't lose. You'll point out my off topic statement, but not the one you SHOULD have responded to.

Sarcasm that always help solve problems. But seriously though I'm not trying to QQ but stamina for melee attacks doesn't make sense to me, if everyone in the dust community wants it then so be it but I can't be the only one who feels this way.

It's ridiculously silly. If they wanted to include all the things that make you tired IRL, they could include kick from actually firing your gun, because controlling that takes lots of effort.

Good idea, prolonged gunfire should eat your stamina too. +1 good sir.

Good idea, prolonged gunfire should eat your stamina too. +1 good sir.

Yea because shooting a gun makes you tired right? Last I checked when I shoot it doesn't make me tired IRL especially with armor from 20k years in the future (Coming from an owner of multiple pistols, a couple of ARs, and a couple of rifles).

Take a 8 lb rifle shaped stick and hold it like a flag up high and proud as you can without resting the rifle on any part of your body for 15 minutes and tell me that doesn't take stamina.

Boy that sucked about boot camp and we had M1 Garands to practice that with and those suckers were 10 pounds.

Another thing about our guns in this game is that they would kill or seriously injur most normal humans that fire them.
The upsized Minmatar SMG would break your wrist if you fired it.

At a gun range or actual combat or both?

That's all just lore bull **** that no one cares about. We're talking about game-play here.

Go back to your corner.

And is there any reason being able to spam endless melee would improve gameplay

Yup, it gives you something to use when you're all out of everything else.

I mean, melee is pretty useless already, why not just let use it without restriction.

That's all just lore bull **** that no one cares about. We're talking about game-play here.

Go back to your corner.

Now not recovering stamina while falling on the other hand....

Punching someone takes a lot of energy especially considering that you are trying to punch someone who is wearing an exoskeleton suit. Your body's muscles are also neurologically attached to your suit which augments your muscles for more effective melee action. Makes sense to me that they take up stamina in the process.