The scout should never be able to win a fight head to head. You need to use specific strategies to make the best of them.

For example. Watch the rest of his videos for a good example scout suit play.

That's ridiculous. I win head to head fights all the time.

The scout should never be able to win a fight head to head. You need to use specific strategies to make the best of them.

For example. Watch the rest of his videos for a good example scout suit play.

CCP did express the desire for 'super abilities' but the thing is activation of them would require the 'cortex' so a menu selection.

Cloaking, Jump Jet and few other types of abilities imo should not be menu accessed but on demand special purpose.
For example Jump Jets activated by holding down the jump button.

Now there is design room for such abilities, for example a 'siege mode.' activate it and walk out of cover and become nearly unstoppable bullet sponge but slow and unable to move too well. Or how about a triage mode, a logi flips in on and becomes an immobile nano-hive and repair station for a short duration.

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Update: We are planning on giving Scout role some love in the future. We can see their performance dropping in game overall.

I think Scouts are already strong. I see scouts run in the middle of like 6 dudes specially in PC and nobody can hit them. They have super speed that makes them un shootable. I practically spray and pray on the few Scouts I have managed to kill.

CCP did express the desire for 'super abilities' but the thing is activation of them would require the 'cortex' so a menu selection.

Cloaking, Jump Jet and few other types of abilities imo should not be menu accessed but on demand special purpose.
For example Jump Jets activated by holding down the jump button.

Now there is design room for such abilities, for example a 'siege mode.' activate it and walk out of cover and become nearly unstoppable bullet sponge but slow and unable to move too well. Or how about a triage mode, a logi flips in on and becomes an immobile nano-hive and repair station for a short duration.

The scout should never be able to win a fight head to head. You need to use specific strategies to make the best of them.

For example. Watch the rest of his videos for a good example scout suit play.

I have played this game for a year. Back then the game was horridly broken, and a mess. But it was fun. I've been a scout suit since I began in this game. For the longest time, scouts had both advantages, and disadvantages. I miss killing tanks with my shotgun.

Scouts used to be effective in cqc, able to kill heavies at point blank due to their high strafe speed. That got nerfed. All hit detection/aiming used to be terrible, now longer ranged aiming works reasonably well, but close range aiming is still horrible. Everything else got buffed, short range specialties did not, an indirect nerf.

Scouts have significantly lower base stats than every other class except in 2 categories, speed and shield recharge. Neither of these are of much use when common weapons on the battlefield either 2-3 shot a scout suit, or have splash damage, or both. Most other suits can be fitted to be faster than a scout, with much more hp, making the actual skilling into a scout a poor decision, as those sp could be better used elsewhere.

As it stands, the scout is more or less forced to be only a non-combat support role or a sniper, or do what many of my fellow scouts do and just troll snipers. If an enemy looks angrily in our direction, we die. It seems very wrong to me that the scout suit has bonuses to scanning, but scanning has also been nerfed into the ground.

We scouts have been hit hard by nerf after nerf, when will the days of the scout being an effective and useful combat suit come again? When will scouts have a place?

I might catch some flak for this but a light frame with access to a covops cloaking device which makes you invisible until you fire (with some sort of cooldown) seems perfectly balanced, as it just might help us get off 1 good shot, which is all we can hope for since we die immediately afterwards.

Other ideas to make scout and light frames useful and worth skilling into would be appreciated, but we really do need something, we're a slowly dying breed.

TL;DR: Another "Scouts are UP" thread.

I do agree with this 100%
I play as a heavy and when I SEE a scout. They are food.
I had a proto assault spring faster then a scout, taking more bullets, and had a shotty. Never have I seen someone that had that much ba**'s with a shotty.

I Think cloaking would be good and bad.

The good
Shot gun to my back as I ran past them doing a one shot if almost all bullets hit.
Scout population would have a little bit of a boom.
Sounds a little OP
They can really be "scouts"

The bad
Proto or rare snipers+claking means never finding them. (maybe a scanner could pick them up?)
Shoot to find you
A chance ever person is a scout in a pub or PC with a shotty.

Also maybe the cloaking could have these effect there shields when hidden?

1. The longer your in it you lose shields then armor and a chance to kill your self while in it.
This would be to the cloaking overheats the suit and causes damage over time. Then maybe a skill to fix that so the cloaking does less damage over time.

2. Must have 50-75% shields+ 15-20 second cool-down before next use.

3. movement speed cut by 40% when cloaked

I agree, i tried every possible tactic with a scout suit, and the only one that is effective, is at the start of the battle;

- Speed skills, hacking module / skills, and up-links... rush like an idiot - hack as many things as possible - drop an up-link - and die..after that forget about the scout suit for the rest of the match.

It seems pointless to spend lots of SP on it, considering that you can do all that with the Basic versions.

Particularly the Gallente Scout sucks. The proto suit LOSES a high powered slot (why?), and the bonuses for it's suit are just stupid.

The scout should never be able to win a fight head to head. You need to use specific strategies to make the best of them.

For example. Watch the rest of his videos for a good example scout suit play.

one more equipment slot or move explosives to the grenade slot and give them another grenade slot

My main was a Logi until the respec, then I decided to go Scout instead.

For some reason even with two complex kincats I feel much slower this build. Perhaps it is because my scout was on hold and I have been building a true Logi again. My Logi actually seems much faster now ironically.

The folks in this thread saying "speed scouts" were impossible to hit before recent fixes are poorly mistaken. At best exaggerating immensely.. Sure you may have had trouble landing hits on a scout as he was running away from you, but in no universe were speed scouts "impossible to hit".

Trust me. LoL