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Illusions Unseen wrote:

hi ccp i need you to cancel my clone pack before it reaches Bosena IX district 3 or you need to tweek dust because at the moment its not worth playing for me anymore my reasons for saying this is

it took my corp 2 months to save for a clone starter pack i had to ask for donations because my corp tax isent working with dust

today to give my corp something to do as a team i just payed for a clone starter pack to attack seraphim initiative Bosena IX district 3 cargo hub thinking that if we win the battle we will win it

well from what ive just read arfter macking the match is it takes 3 attacks to take a cargo hub so win or lose ive lost before i begun

if i win this first battle dose my mpc ive hired (clone starter pack) roll over for the next match winning a portion of the enemy's clones? or because i dont already own a district dose the clones Ive won just get destroyed? because win or lose im at a loss eather way

also may i add seraphim iniiative took what was it 30% of the districts when dust514 came out of beta with out a fight hmm good for them but to discover that i need to attack 3 times to take 1 district kinda sucks like i said it took our corp of 95 members 2 months to save for so in reality it will take my corp 6 months to save for 3 clone starter packs to take one district hmm makes me wonder if this game is worth the time just to be proud of 1 district that cost me 240 million to win if our corp is lucky to win 3 times in a row

the unfair truth is seriphim iniative won 3 districts for the cost of me fighting for 1

this needs to be rectified because there is a obvious unfair balance they are selling clone packs by the day earning 100s of millions of isk pasivley and when the next set of planets open up they will have the isk for another 100 districts with out a fight

there is 4 ways i can think of fixing this problem

(1) reset all the planets and make a fresh start once you own a district a corp can not buy a second make them expand from there first district (you have reset before making me over spend then taking my isk back remember?)

(2) once a clone pack is sent to a owned district let the fighting begin if the attacker wins then they should have a foothold both own half each of the district. and make the second match the decider who ever wins the second match wins the district, If the attacker loses on there first attack then they lose there 80 million. something like 1st match domination 2nd match skirmish

(3) when the next region opens on the other side of the map if you own a district you can not buy a starter pack (also you can not buy a starter pack if your corp is smaller then 32 members)

(4) and this is the best idea when its time to open more regions open up 3 for the other remaining factions and let my eve ceo put isk into the merc tab

I don't think a gm/dev will reply to this but would love to hear what he has to say

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Illusions Unseen Tribal Band Dust Mercenaries Immortals of War 0	Posted - 2013.06.29 05:12:00 - [1] - Quote hi ccp i need you to cancel my clone pack before it reaches Bosena IX district 3 or you need to tweek dust because at the moment its not worth playing for me anymore my reasons for saying this is it took my corp 2 months to save for a clone starter pack i had to ask for donations because my corp tax isent working with dust today to give my corp something to do as a team i just payed for a clone starter pack to attack seraphim initiative Bosena IX district 3 cargo hub thinking that if we win the battle we will win it well from what ive just read arfter macking the match is it takes 3 attacks to take a cargo hub so win or lose ive lost before i begun if i win this first battle dose my mpc ive hired (clone starter pack) roll over for the next match winning a portion of the enemy's clones? or because i dont already own a district dose the clones Ive won just get destroyed? because win or lose im at a loss eather way also may i add seraphim iniiative took what was it 30% of the districts when dust514 came out of beta with out a fight hmm good for them but to discover that i need to attack 3 times to take 1 district kinda sucks like i said it took our corp of 95 members 2 months to save for so in reality it will take my corp 6 months to save for 3 clone starter packs to take one district hmm makes me wonder if this game is worth the time just to be proud of 1 district that cost me 240 million to win if our corp is lucky to win 3 times in a row the unfair truth is seriphim iniative won 3 districts for the cost of me fighting for 1 this needs to be rectified because there is a obvious unfair balance they are selling clone packs by the day earning 100s of millions of isk pasivley and when the next set of planets open up they will have the isk for another 100 districts with out a fight there is 4 ways i can think of fixing this problem (1) reset all the planets and make a fresh start once you own a district a corp can not buy a second make them expand from there first district (you have reset before making me over spend then taking my isk back remember?) (2) once a clone pack is sent to a owned district let the fighting begin if the attacker wins then they should have a foothold both own half each of the district. and make the second match the decider who ever wins the second match wins the district, If the attacker loses on there first attack then they lose there 80 million. something like 1st match domination 2nd match skirmish (3) when the next region opens on the other side of the map if you own a district you can not buy a starter pack (also you can not buy a starter pack if your corp is smaller then 32 members) (4) and this is the best idea when its time to open more regions open up 3 for the other remaining factions and let my eve ceo put isk into the merc tab I don't think a gm/dev will reply to this but would love to hear what he has to say
Zatara Rought TeamPlayers EoN. 350	Posted - 2013.06.29 06:25:00 - [2] - Quote I'm no GM/DEV but i got some feedback. 1.) No thank you. It does suck, but seraphim is selling districts and so are other people for anywhere from 50-160 mill, you coulda gotten your own for s cheaper price than they did...Even if you're thing was implemented, seraphim would simply have evn more districts when the dust settles because they would make alt corps and xfer isk to it and have 100 districts off the bat with the money they have made already from PC. 2.) I don't have any solid reason why beyond I don't like the idea off the bat, not compelling enough for me. There's another thread that was much more awesome sounding around here somewhere. 3.) They'll use an alt corp. The idea for less than 32 members is even more silly. CCP already said they will be trying to make districts of different sizes that require different sizes of each team (8v8, 16v16, 24v24) I think a corp member requirement would limit not foster the number of corps participating in PC (about 40 atm). 4.) Not sure I understand it. Overall, sorry you wasted your isk. Seraphim is a tough opponent, did you win?
Illusions Unseen Tribal Band Dust Mercenaries Immortals of War 0	Posted - 2013.06.30 06:46:00 - [3] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: I'm no GM/DEV but i got some feedback. 1.) No thank you. It does suck, but seraphim is selling districts and so are other people for anywhere from 50-160 mill, you coulda gotten your own for s cheaper price than they did...Even if you're thing was implemented, seraphim would simply have evn more districts when the dust settles because they would make alt corps and xfer isk to it and have 100 districts off the bat with the money they have made already from PC. 2.) I don't have any solid reason why beyond I don't like the idea off the bat, not compelling enough for me. There's another thread that was much more awesome sounding around here somewhere. 3.) They'll use an alt corp. The idea for less than 32 members is even more silly. CCP already said they will be trying to make districts of different sizes that require different sizes of each team (8v8, 16v16, 24v24) I think a corp member requirement would limit not foster the number of corps participating in PC (about 40 atm). 4.) Not sure I understand it. Overall, sorry you wasted your isk. Seraphim is a tough opponent, did you win? umm no they wouldn't own all the planets if a starter pack could only be used once to clame a district and even if they did make 100 corps at least there would be 100 directors insted of 1
wild wendigo KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 3	Posted - 2013.06.30 11:32:00 - [4] - Quote Illusions Unseen wrote: hi ccp i need you to cancel my clone pack before it reaches Bosena IX district 3 or you need to tweek dust because at the moment its not worth playing for me anymore my reasons for saying this is it took my corp 2 months to save for a clone starter pack i had to ask for donations because my corp tax isent working with dust today to give my corp something to do as a team i just payed for a clone starter pack to attack seraphim initiative Bosena IX district 3 cargo hub thinking that if we win the battle we will win it well from what ive just read arfter macking the match is it takes 3 attacks to take a cargo hub so win or lose ive lost before i begun if i win this first battle dose my mpc ive hired (clone starter pack) roll over for the next match winning a portion of the enemy's clones? or because i dont already own a district dose the clones Ive won just get destroyed? because win or lose im at a loss eather way also may i add seraphim iniiative took what was it 30% of the districts when dust514 came out of beta with out a fight hmm good for them but to discover that i need to attack 3 times to take 1 district kinda sucks like i said it took our corp of 95 members 2 months to save for so in reality it will take my corp 6 months to save for 3 clone starter packs to take one district hmm makes me wonder if this game is worth the time just to be proud of 1 district that cost me 240 million to win if our corp is lucky to win 3 times in a row the unfair truth is seriphim iniative won 3 districts for the cost of me fighting for 1 this needs to be rectified because there is a obvious unfair balance they are selling clone packs by the day earning 100s of millions of isk pasivley and when the next set of planets open up they will have the isk for another 100 districts with out a fight there is 4 ways i can think of fixing this problem (1) reset all the planets and make a fresh start once you own a district a corp can not buy a second make them expand from there first district (you have reset before making me over spend then taking my isk back remember?) (2) once a clone pack is sent to a owned district let the fighting begin if the attacker wins then they should have a foothold both own half each of the district. and make the second match the decider who ever wins the second match wins the district, If the attacker loses on there first attack then they lose there 80 million. something like 1st match domination 2nd match skirmish (3) when the next region opens on the other side of the map if you own a district you can not buy a starter pack (also you can not buy a starter pack if your corp is smaller then 32 members) (4) and this is the best idea when its time to open more regions open up 3 for the other remaining factions and let my eve ceo put isk into the merc tab I don't think a gm/dev will reply to this but would love to hear what he has to say not to be a downer but research is your friend.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. League of Infamy 481	Posted - 2013.06.30 13:14:00 - [5] - Quote Illusions Unseen wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: I'm no GM/DEV but i got some feedback. 1.) No thank you. It does suck, but seraphim is selling districts and so are other people for anywhere from 50-160 mill, you coulda gotten your own for s cheaper price than they did...Even if you're thing was implemented, seraphim would simply have evn more districts when the dust settles because they would make alt corps and xfer isk to it and have 100 districts off the bat with the money they have made already from PC. 2.) I don't have any solid reason why beyond I don't like the idea off the bat, not compelling enough for me. There's another thread that was much more awesome sounding around here somewhere. 3.) They'll use an alt corp. The idea for less than 32 members is even more silly. CCP already said they will be trying to make districts of different sizes that require different sizes of each team (8v8, 16v16, 24v24) I think a corp member requirement would limit not foster the number of corps participating in PC (about 40 atm). 4.) Not sure I understand it. Overall, sorry you wasted your isk. Seraphim is a tough opponent, did you win? umm no they wouldn't own all the planets if a starter pack could only be used once to clame a district and even if they did make 100 corps at least there would be 100 directors insted of 1 I totally understand your concern with the price of a clone pack, but 10 minutes of reading would have gotten you miles ahead of where you currently are.
Rogatien Merc Ill Omens EoN. 189	Posted - 2013.07.01 06:03:00 - [6] - Quote TBQH bro, I am like, really empathizing with you right now and this post makes me sad. It is harsh. But bro, it is a mistake you made. You did not understand the mechanics that you were about to use and you are the one responsible for that. You gotta deal bro, learn to research better, and enjoy the gud fite against SI. In the end, it's just ISK.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2968	Posted - 2013.07.01 06:42:00 - [7] - Quote You cannot expect CCP to hold your hand for every mistake you make. It is your responsibility as a director or CEO to research this sort of stuff before committing to it.
Spec Ops Cipher Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 97	Posted - 2013.07.01 17:06:00 - [8] - Quote CCP did help. We had them redlined all game then the game was cancelled just before the mcc blew up. We got nothing, the match was nullified, and they got their 80m back. Waste of time for us, I hope you learned something.
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1347	Posted - 2013.07.01 20:27:00 - [9] - Quote I could have given you a district for free. Having read the first part of your post I was already in the map picking one out for you. Then you went fullretard. Will make an effort to check the map every day and look for any districts you might one day own. Also you sent 3 people. Make sure you have plenty of isk to hire mercs to defend in the future. Its good to talk.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 788	Posted - 2013.07.01 23:28:00 - [10] - Quote It took 95 players 2 months to save up 80 million isk!? That's less than a million per player. If you run starter fits for 4 - 5 games, you'd earn that much even if you didn't do particularly great. That's around 2 hours per player on average. Now don't get me wrong - there's some merit in some of the things you've said, particularly about restricting corps to clone packs only if they hold no land (I always argue that at least then they'd have to work at the alt corp thing to gain lots of land instead of the current system whereby they get all the land for zero effort anyway!). Also, I have come to dislike the automatic clone loss of 150 for losing sides. This encourages teams to refuse to spawn when they get near to the 150 clone loss. There should be a way to kill as many clones as you can before your MCC dies. How about a new game mode where only the attackers have an MCC? You don't need new maps or anything - just replace the current defending MCC with a 2nd ground base. Defenders have to hold null cannons to destroy the attacking MCC, whilst attackers are trying to kill as many clones as possible before that happens, slowing down the damage dealt by hacking the null cannons themselves. Attackers only win the district if they completely clone the enemy and defenders can win by destroying the attacking MCC or killing all their clones.

Illusions Unseen Tribal Band Dust Mercenaries Immortals of War 0	Posted - 2013.07.02 11:22:00 - [11] - Quote Sha Kharn Clone wrote: I could have given you a district for free. Having read the first part of your post I was already in the map picking one out for you. Then you went fullretard. Will make an effort to check the map every day and look for any districts you might one day own. Also you sent 3 people. Make sure you have plenty of isk to hire mercs to defend in the future. Its good to talk. honestly i sent no one they jumped in after i said fill up squads first and i was organizing with another corp to have them filled CCP needs to fix this also for all i know he was your guy and no not retarted just know when a game is failing and to me its still in beta and should be fixed and all cash you guys made from clone packs deleted like i said a starter pack should be to earn 1 district and a corp should have to work off from that one not just take every empty spot they can how the game is right now is retarted like the name says "starter pack" how many starts did you have after down time when dust and eve merged? i hope ccp fixes this and im going to bump this post everyday to think you have been making 80 million every 24 hours i can honestly see you guys and what the french owning 50% each when the next region opens up with all the isk you have collected CCP make a starter pack for people who don't own a district only
Illusions Unseen Tribal Band Dust Mercenaries Immortals of War 0	Posted - 2013.07.02 11:30:00 - [12] - Quote [/quote] not to be a downer but research is your friend. [/quote] yeah i know i payed what was it 20 dollars to watch fanfest and there was nothing spoken about clone starter packs only talked about 1 district owner attacking another district owner
Django Quik R.I.f.t 788	Posted - 2013.07.02 12:45:00 - [13] - Quote Don't worry about randoms from your corp jumping in your PC matches anymore - the patch today allows you to go in and remove them when waiting in the war barge before the game begins. But still, 2 hours play per player in your corp should get you enough for a clone pack - I don't understand how you struggled so much to save up.


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