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Posted - 2013.06.28 17:21:00 -
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Havent seen it anywhere yet. Can I haz please? Trading isk for aur would be cool/no pay to win arguments. |
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Posted - 2013.06.28 17:27:00 -
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I extended my vacation boss, be back Tuesday. Won some money at the 200 buy in poker, but I'm losing most of it on these slots. I think their rigged... |
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Posted - 2013.06.28 17:30:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I truly doubt they will let you trade AUR to other players. However, when the game has a real economy so money is not just totally worthless, there would be no reason to disallow AUR only items.
Which is great because I have a completely worthless SEVER suit. No way in hell am I blowing 500,000 SP to get a free level 1 Logi suit. (Still annoyed about that)
Lol I petitioned to get the aur back for my sever long ago bro. Got my 20k aur back and I'm happy as a clam.
So you are for it but don't think it will happen. Well that's lame. You added nothing any other blueberry would have said. I need discussion! Are there any who think it'd be wrong? |
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Posted - 2013.06.28 18:14:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Aurum will and should be never transferrable for various reasons.
Wut? Why? And plex? |
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Posted - 2013.06.28 18:17:00 -
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Nin Ker wrote:If you can buy aurumn for isk, where would Dust get the real money from?
Don't think it will or should ever happen.
Can't buy aurum for isk, just trade already purchased aurum to another player for isk. |
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Posted - 2013.06.28 18:38:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Vitoka79 from SVK wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Aurum will and should be never transferrable for various reasons. Why not?What are those various reasons? Something involving IRL stuff oddly >< Taxes Governments the sorts.
Really? Can you elaborate? Any specifics? I agree if you can sell aur items aur transfers would be superflous but with the player market m.i.a. this seems easier to implement. |
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Posted - 2013.06.28 18:41:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:I'm DONE with DUST for good and giving away all my stuff! Send me 10K AUR and I'll double it on the spot!
Done!! Just send me your playstation account password and i'll handle the transactions. You can trust me thoroughly because I am very honest religious person, trust in me and regret never.  |
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Posted - 2013.06.28 19:33:00 -
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^ Wow. Thanks for doing my legwork for me. IWS? Your move. ^_^ |
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Posted - 2013.06.28 22:46:00 -
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Odiain Suliis wrote:Baal Roo wrote:Nin Ker wrote:If you can buy aurumn for isk, where would Dust get the real money from?
Don't think it will or should ever happen. From the people buying the AUR. Once the AUR is purchased by a player for real money, why would CCP care which player actually spends it? Dont know, but food of thought... At what point does scams and stealing AUR become illegal? It's same as PSN store credits and any other store credit.
 Well this escalated quickly. |
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Posted - 2013.06.28 23:36:00 -
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Odiain Suliis wrote:Baal Roo wrote:Odiain Suliis wrote:Baal Roo wrote:Nin Ker wrote:If you can buy aurumn for isk, where would Dust get the real money from?
Don't think it will or should ever happen. From the people buying the AUR. Once the AUR is purchased by a player for real money, why would CCP care which player actually spends it? Dont know, but food of thought... At what point does scams and stealing AUR become illegal? It's same as PSN store credits and any other store credit. It doesn't. You're buying in game items (in this instance, AUR). Once you've purchased the AUR, it's up to you how you experience it's usage. If that experience involves trading it to someone else and getting "scammed," well, that's emergent gameplay as far as I'm concerned (and this is generally how CCP views it as well). As long as you're not losing that AUR to game bugs, glitches, and exploits, it's all part of the "game." AUR itself isnt ingame ITEM. edit: And if you mean Aurum Tokens, then user must have first converted those.
Can you clarify that? Why do you suppose that? Or better yet can you find anything CCP has said that supports your interpretation? |
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Posted - 2013.06.28 23:54:00 -
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Odiain Suliis wrote:That is my interpretation and by that I mean that AUR the one showing in your waller balance isn't transferrable.
By item i ment item in-game that can be traded/ looted/ destroyed. AUR tokens are ITEM in this sence, but once you convert it into AUR it is not.
So...wut you're saying is that it's your opinion, and no more valid without proof than the invisible spaghetti monster that ate the coal i was supposed to receive last christmas? Just wondering. |
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Posted - 2013.06.29 00:55:00 -
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Odiain Suliis wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Odiain Suliis wrote:That is my interpretation and by that I mean that AUR the one showing in your waller balance isn't transferrable.
By item i ment item in-game that can be traded/ looted/ destroyed. AUR tokens are ITEM in this sence, but once you convert it into AUR it is not. So...wut you're saying is that it's your opinion, and no more valid without proof than the invisible spaghetti monster that ate the coal i was supposed to receive last christmas? Just wondering. Emm... we seem to be amiss here. AUR be it in DUST or EVE isn't item(in-game item) such as Militia Shotgun or Vexor. This I think we agree on? yes? My interpretation was that if we agee on that above statement then AUR isn't item(in-game item), not until it's converted to some other form.
Is there a difference between Aur and a militia shotgun in terms of recognition as in game items...no. I'm asking you to defend that assertion with proof.
I do recognize a difference between the in game currency (Aur) and a militia shotgun one time use asset.
Maybe if Aur was used for out of game items like t-shirts I'd agree but I'm hesitant. |
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Posted - 2013.06.29 02:26:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:Just like you can't stick raw ISK into your cargo bay and haul it around and have it come spilling out when you get ganked, niether can you put raw AUR into a cargo hold. It is therefore, not an item.
AUR Tokens are worth 1000 AUR. AUR Tokens are items, and can be shipped about and dropped upon your death. Once remdeemed, AUR Tokens turn into 1000 AUR that is perfectly safe in your wallet until you spend it on something, just like ISK. However, once redeemed, AUR Tokens (and PLEX) cannot be turned back into an ingame item. They are forever now a liquid currency until you spend them on something.
I'm not arguing semantics about your limited view of what constitutes an "item" that resides within a game at the expense of derailing the thread. The point of the thread was, can I please/should I be able to trade aur to other players.
Why can't I decide to purchase an elite pack and trade half the aur to my alt char for boosters?
If not, why not? You seem to be ok with the equivalent of a token in eve. seems like aur once used to me. This just allows that same transfer of aur, but without the extra burden of a token.
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Posted - 2013.06.29 02:33:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Odiain Suliis wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Odiain Suliis wrote:That is my interpretation and by that I mean that AUR the one showing in your waller balance isn't transferrable.
By item i ment item in-game that can be traded/ looted/ destroyed. AUR tokens are ITEM in this sence, but once you convert it into AUR it is not. So...wut you're saying is that it's your opinion, and no more valid without proof than the invisible spaghetti monster that ate the coal i was supposed to receive last christmas? Just wondering. Emm... we seem to be amiss here. AUR be it in DUST or EVE isn't item(in-game item) such as Militia Shotgun or Vexor. This I think we agree on? yes? My interpretation was that if we agee on that above statement then AUR isn't item(in-game item), not until it's converted to some other form. Is there a difference between Aur and a militia shotgun in terms of recognition as in game items...no. I'm asking you to defend that assertion with proof. I do recognize a difference between the in game currency (Aur) and a militia shotgun one time use asset. Maybe if Aur was used for out of game items like t-shirts I'd agree but I'm hesitant. "When you purchase an AUR package" When you buy an AUR pack, you get tokens. You can convert or sell the tokens, but you cannot sell AUR it'self, I don't see what it is your not understanding here?
Errmagerdd dumb internet people that would rather tangent to prove a meaningless point or troll than to meaningfully contribute how that point bolsters the argument that Aurum should be nontransferable.
Definition of ITEM
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obsolete : warning, hint
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: a distinct part in an enumeration, account, or series : article
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: an object of attention, concern, or interest
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: a separate piece of news or information
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: a couple in a romantic or sexual relationship
See item defined for English-language learners -+
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Examples of ITEM
There are several items for sale.
I need to buy a few household items like soap.
He always orders the most expensive item on the menu.
There are a lot of items on our agenda tonight, so let's start the meeting.
I saw an item in today's paper about the mayor's campaign plans.
Aurum can be defined as an item that exists with in a game. So can a militia shotgun. I see both as legally transferable unless there's a legal or ccp reason why they can't be. Can you provide any evidence of either? No?
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