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Odiain Suliis
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2013.06.28 22:39:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Isn't it true that there is the potential for EVE pilots to indirectly pay their subscription via earned Isk?
If so, then there is already an established ratio of Isk:real-ú$Gé¼, and the introduction of Aurum trading could seriously screw up both economies as a result.
Of course, there might be the potential for this dilemma anyway. In which case, I will officially declare my intention to buy your boosters with isk, toxins, officer gear, whatever.
Yes there is. And one dilemma is real or percieved value difference betwene AUR converted from PLEX that is bought to EVE 19.95Gé¼ per 1 PLEX and AUR bought from PSN store. You get far more AUR(DUST) with same ammount of Gé¼ than in EVE.
If direct AUR transfers are allowed betwene EVE and DUST that would drive users to buy from PSN store OR re-pricing of AUR goods in DUST.
Even if AUR transfers dont happen betwene DUST and EVE, but ISK is then what ever way nets more ISK/Gé¼ is used until market balances it self out. But who knows what prices(ISK) would be the equiliblium state. 1 PLEX = 3500 AUR(EVE)*1 and 1 PLEX is currently about 530-540mil ISK
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Odiain Suliis
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
159
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Posted - 2013.06.28 22:44:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Nin Ker wrote:If you can buy aurumn for isk, where would Dust get the real money from?
Don't think it will or should ever happen. From the people buying the AUR. Once the AUR is purchased by a player for real money, why would CCP care which player actually spends it?
Dont know, but food of thought...
At what point does scams and stealing AUR become illegal? It's same as PSN store credits and any other store credit.
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Odiain Suliis
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
159
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Posted - 2013.06.28 22:50:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Odiain Suliis wrote:Baal Roo wrote:Nin Ker wrote:If you can buy aurumn for isk, where would Dust get the real money from?
Don't think it will or should ever happen. From the people buying the AUR. Once the AUR is purchased by a player for real money, why would CCP care which player actually spends it? Dont know, but food of thought... At what point does scams and stealing AUR become illegal? It's same as PSN store credits and any other store credit. It doesn't. You're buying in game items (in this instance, AUR). Once you've purchased the AUR, it's up to you how you experience it's usage. If that experience involves trading it to someone else and getting "scammed," well, that's emergent gameplay as far as I'm concerned (and this is generally how CCP views it as well). As long as you're not losing that AUR to game bugs, glitches, and exploits, it's all part of the "game."
AUR itself isnt ingame ITEM.
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And if you mean Aurum Tokens, then user must have first converted those. |
Odiain Suliis
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
159
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Posted - 2013.06.28 23:03:00 -
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Also interesting thought springed from the "taxation" comment..
I dont know law and taxation things that well, but at what point there kicks in wealth taxation or taxation for tranfes of goods from preson to another?
I mean suppose you buy 1000Gé¼ worth of AUR from PSN store and then transfer that to other player. Does that constitute as transfer of wealth/assets in terms of taxation?
If it isn't, then what's to stop two reasonably well living persons use that as 'money' for services rendered IRL? How would one monitor and regulate that?
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Altho saving grace and differenciator here is that you can't 'withdraw' that AUR from the game back to your bank account. |
Odiain Suliis
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
159
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Posted - 2013.06.28 23:47:00 -
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That is my interpretation and by that I mean that AUT the one showing in your waller balance isn't transferrable.
By item i ment item in-game that gan me traded/ looted/ destroyed. AUR tokens are ITEM in this sence, but once you convert it into AUR it is not. |
Odiain Suliis
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
159
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Posted - 2013.06.29 00:23:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Odiain Suliis wrote:That is my interpretation and by that I mean that AUR the one showing in your waller balance isn't transferrable.
By item i ment item in-game that can be traded/ looted/ destroyed. AUR tokens are ITEM in this sence, but once you convert it into AUR it is not. So...wut you're saying is that it's your opinion, and no more valid without proof than the invisible spaghetti monster that ate the coal i was supposed to receive last christmas? Just wondering.
Emm... we seem to be amiss here.
AUR be it in DUST or EVE isn't item(in-game item) such as Militia Shotgun or Vexor. This I think we agree on? yes?
My interpretation was that if we agee on that above statement then AUR isn't item(in-game item), not until it's converted to some other form. |
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