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Zekain K
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.28 14:32:00 -
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Did you all forget that they still exist? Or are you all just refusing to mention them?
Fused locust grenades can be found on the market for 15 AUR.
Where as M1 contact locust grenades can be found in the fitting screen when you press the "go to market place" tab to see what other grenades you're able to use.
You can buy them for 20 AUR
Their is 3 to a pack instead of 2.
They have a bigger splash radius then fused locust grenades, and the lv 5 contact grenades
They deal more damage, the same amount of damage as the regular M1 grenades.
Yet all I see is bitching about the LV 5 contact grenades, and fused locus grenades. What about this middle level grenade?
PAY TO WIN PAY TO WIN PAY TO WIN PAY TO WIN |
Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
636
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Posted - 2013.06.28 14:41:00 -
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P2W indeed. It's time for CCP to start listening and delete all contact nades from the game forever, or at least balance them with lower damage.
If they really listen to the community as they claim they do, this is one of the things they will have to do ASAP. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
759
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Posted - 2013.06.28 14:46:00 -
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You guys are going nuts over the only P2W item in the game. So many threads about it. I am actually not bothered by them, but mostly because they are like 15 - 20 AUR. its like pennies.
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N1ck Comeau
Pro Hic Immortalis
530
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Posted - 2013.06.28 15:29:00 -
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I never even see them in game. Whats the problem? |
Zekain K
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
135
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Posted - 2013.06.28 15:31:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:I never even see them in game. Whats the problem?
You dont see them because no one knows about them.
I'm here to change that. |
KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
119
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Posted - 2013.06.28 15:32:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:You guys are going nuts over the only P2W item in the game. So many threads about it. I am actually not bothered by them, but mostly because they are like 15 - 20 AUR. its like pennies.
if we allow this it paves the way to slowly allow other bigger things |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
132
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Posted - 2013.06.28 15:37:00 -
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I got killed a bunch of time by them.
I'm kind of flattered that someone actually spend real money to kill me! |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
417
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Posted - 2013.06.28 15:37:00 -
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Thanks OP, CCP must have just recently added this because they weren't there a few weeks back
will be buying 100 copies |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
761
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Posted - 2013.06.28 15:41:00 -
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KOBLAKA1 wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:You guys are going nuts over the only P2W item in the game. So many threads about it. I am actually not bothered by them, but mostly because they are like 15 - 20 AUR. its like pennies.
if we allow this it paves the way to slowly allow other bigger things
That is a very true statement. But I'm fine with letting this one slide. Trust me, the community knows about this stuff, if P2W becomes the model then the forums and the game would explode |
Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
637
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Posted - 2013.06.28 15:48:00 -
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They aren't everywhere because not everyone wants to spend AUR on pub matches. |
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Karl Koekwaus
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
107
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Posted - 2013.06.28 15:52:00 -
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People have been saying this since Uprising launched, CPM know about it, CCP knows about it but they apparently think it's fine, since they stated on the Uprising dev vids on twitch there won't be anymore P2W items in the game in Uprising. I don't know if they were informed by the decision to go P2W or just wanted to deny it on stream because of angry mobs.
also notice how CCP stopped claiming the game is not P2W since they launched. |
Dust Project 514
Dust Evo 514
51
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Posted - 2013.06.28 15:59:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:P2W indeed. It's time for CCP to start listening and delete all contact nades from the game forever, or at least balance them with lower damage.
If they really listen to the community as they claim they do, this is one of the things they will have to do ASAP.
Lol No.
They are making too much money off of it, to delete it.
And "Listening to the community" does NOT mean they will do as the community wants.
Its their game, not ours.
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Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
638
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Posted - 2013.06.28 16:02:00 -
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Dust Project 514 wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:P2W indeed. It's time for CCP to start listening and delete all contact nades from the game forever, or at least balance them with lower damage.
If they really listen to the community as they claim they do, this is one of the things they will have to do ASAP. Lol No. They are making too much money off of it, to delete it. And "Listening to the community" does NOT mean they will do as the community wants. Its their game, not ours.
Did you miss the "or at least balance them with lower damage" part?
Giving them 100 less damage than their non-contact counterpart wouldn't be that terrible. That would make the Fused Locus do 300 damage and the Advanced variant 400 damage. That would be ok in my opinion. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
341
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Posted - 2013.06.28 16:10:00 -
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the level 5 contact grenade is isk based right?
then isn't this no different the the usual pay to win faster? |
Dust Project 514
Dust Evo 514
51
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Posted - 2013.06.28 16:15:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Dust Project 514 wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:P2W indeed. It's time for CCP to start listening and delete all contact nades from the game forever, or at least balance them with lower damage.
If they really listen to the community as they claim they do, this is one of the things they will have to do ASAP. Lol No. They are making too much money off of it, to delete it. And "Listening to the community" does NOT mean they will do as the community wants. Its their game, not ours. Did you miss the "or at least balance them with lower damage" part? Giving them 100 less damage than their non-contact counterpart wouldn't be that terrible. That would make the Fused Locus do 300 damage and the Advanced variant 400 damage. That would be ok in my opinion.
Or they could just offer Aur versions of EVERY item in the game that is EXACTLY the same as their ISK counterparts.
The difference being that the Aurum versions would be exempt from SP requirements or would not deplete when you die.
With that they could still say that it's NOT pay to win, but pay to get instant access to what everyone else can use... once they've unlocked them. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
638
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Posted - 2013.06.28 16:17:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:the level 5 contact grenade is isk based right?
then isn't this no different the the usual pay to win faster?
It's not the same since the AUR versions use less CPU/PG. Also they have a bigger splash radius. |
Skipper Jones
Red Star.
EoN.
179
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Posted - 2013.06.28 16:19:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:I never even see them in game. Whats the problem? You dont see them because no one knows about them. I'm here to change that.
So you're complaining about the only P2W item in the game. So, you go on and try to tell everyone about it?
**** logic |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
788
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Posted - 2013.06.28 16:24:00 -
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Thanks Z. Now I'm going to have to worry about more BS than I do already once this catches on.
Guess I'll buy 1000 of em  |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
763
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Posted - 2013.06.28 16:36:00 -
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Dust Project 514 wrote: Or they could just offer Aur versions of EVERY item in the game that is EXACTLY the same as their ISK counterparts.
The difference being that the Aurum versions would be exempt from SP requirements or would not deplete when you die.
With that they could still say that it's NOT pay to win, but pay to get instant access to what everyone else can use... once they've unlocked them, eventually.
Which would put the people with too much money to spend at the top of the food chain.
Thats actually how it works for the most part. You can use proto gear while only having like advanced skills or you can use the standard edition while not having any skills at all. |
Dust Project 514
Dust Evo 514
51
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Posted - 2013.06.28 16:45:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Dust Project 514 wrote: Or they could just offer Aur versions of EVERY item in the game that is EXACTLY the same as their ISK counterparts.
The difference being that the Aurum versions would be exempt from SP requirements or would not deplete when you die.
With that they could still say that it's NOT pay to win, but pay to get instant access to what everyone else can use... once they've unlocked them, eventually.
Which would put the people with too much money to spend at the top of the food chain. Thats actually how it works for the most part. You can use proto gear while only having like advanced skills or you can use the standard edition while not having any skills at all.
Yeah I know, but I mean specifically EVERY ITEM (including Pro) would be buyable from the start of your character (0 SP required to use any of them).
I am surprised they haven't done it yet. Maybe they will when they finalize/include all the basic features. |
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