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Arron Rift
Commando Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.27 22:34:00 -
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http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/06/the-commando-uprising-1.2-brings-new-dropsuit-role/
"Ground Speed: 395"
If this is in MPH, then this Heavy suit is faster than most sports cars! To heck with the two light weapons, just run at your foes and mow them over! The murder taxi just got a little brother!
But in all seriousness, this is probably just a typo. But in that case, I would actually like to thank CCP, it looks like they were trying so hard to get this dev blog out to us that in their panic they forgot to proof :P
Thanks for your haste CCP, we appreciate it |
Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
1585
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Posted - 2013.06.27 22:36:00 -
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Maybe it was meant to be, "3.95," which wouldn't surprise me if it carries two medium-sized weapons and is a heavy suit. |
Arcturis Vanguard
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
36
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Posted - 2013.06.27 22:36:00 -
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Lmao, I saw that to. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
622
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Posted - 2013.06.27 22:37:00 -
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395 meters per second or gtfo |
The Infected One
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
255
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Posted - 2013.06.27 22:38:00 -
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Agreed, pretty sure they just missed s decimal point, 3.95 M/s, which would translate to 8.835 mph |
hooc roht
Deep Space Republic
123
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Posted - 2013.06.27 22:40:00 -
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God i hope that typo ends up in the code.
would be the funniest couple of weeks before they patch it in the history of video games.
"what the hell was that?"
"I don't know but my ass sure hurts." |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
681
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Posted - 2013.06.27 22:43:00 -
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The Infected One wrote:Agreed, pretty sure they just missed s decimal point, 3.95 M/s, which would translate to 8.835 mph i think they meant to add meters per minute which translates into 6.6M/s which is just under the Amarr assault sprint speed(6.7). because no other suit shows speed with hundredths of M/s so its not a decimal point. |
MrShooter01
Expert Intervention Caldari State
283
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Posted - 2013.06.27 22:49:00 -
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It's in meters per second of course
At 395 m/s the Amarr Commando suit moves a bit faster than the speed of sound |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1031
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Posted - 2013.06.27 22:52:00 -
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Arron Rift wrote:http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/06/the-commando-uprising-1.2-brings-new-dropsuit-role/ "Ground Speed: 395" If this is in MPH, then this Heavy suit is faster than most sports cars! To heck with the two light weapons, just run at your foes and mow them over! The murder taxi just got a little brother! But in all seriousness, this is probably just a typo. But in that case, I would actually like to thank CCP, it looks like they were trying so hard to get this dev blog out to us that in their panic they forgot to proof :P Thanks for your haste CCP, we appreciate it
VROOM! |
Arron Rift
Commando Perkone Caldari State
155
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Posted - 2013.06.27 22:59:00 -
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hooc roht wrote:God i hope that typo ends up in the code.
would be the funniest couple of weeks before they patch it in the history of video games.
"what the hell was that?"
"I don't know but my ass sure hurts."
LOL!!! |
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
681
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:00:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote:It's in meters per minute of course
At 395 m/m the Amarr Commando suit moves faster than a golf cart. fixed it for you. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
4154
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:06:00 -
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The thing is a clown suit... |
The Infected One
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
255
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:10:00 -
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ladwar wrote:The Infected One wrote:Agreed, pretty sure they just missed s decimal point, 3.95 M/s, which would translate to 8.835 mph i think they meant to add meters per minute which translates into 6.6M/s which is just under the Amarr assault sprint speed(6.7). because no other suit shows speed with hundredths of M/s so its not a decimal point. its a sprint speed for meters per minute.
Not entirely true, my adv mini scout sprints at 8.72 M/s, and it shows up thusly. Also my Caldari Assault sprints at 7.21, also showing thusly. So far the base suits are rounded to the closest 10th, this could be the one off. It shows hundredths when you start modifying with Kin/cats and biotics, or add armor plates with movement penslties, right? Perhaps they just pulled a random slow number out of their asses. I guess we will have to wait and see. It is still a modified heavy frame. |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:15:00 -
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I could potentially cover and cap all objectives whilst depleting enemy clone reserves to zero in a matter of a few minutes.
*TAKE MY SP* |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
484
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:19:00 -
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I hope this suit rocks. Our heavies need a head smasher. Any heavies that want a logi for support let me know. I am usually on after down time. I push Gal advanced logi with all the advanced toys, PC, LR and proto scrambler rifles.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
4155
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:20:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:I hope this suit rocks. It doesn't
:/
I'm sure a couple talented players will beast with it somehow.....I'll stick with my basic heavies tyvm.
I might, maybe, try Sentinals at some point, but...yea, I'm set |
Nirwanda Vaughns
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
57
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:27:00 -
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Be liek when you could put two active MWDs on ships in EVE and get a 10kmps rupture |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:29:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:I hope this suit rocks. It doesn't :/ I'm sure a couple talented players will beast with it somehow.....I'll stick with my basic heavies tyvm. I might, maybe, try Sentinals at some point, but...yea, I'm set
I'll stick to my basic Heavies as well: just waiting on the Minmitar variant. By the way, is there any benefits to skilling into Sentinel suits. |
Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
1586
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:38:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:I hope this suit rocks. It doesn't :/ I'm sure a couple talented players will beast with it somehow.....I'll stick with my basic heavies tyvm. I might, maybe, try Sentinals at some point, but...yea, I'm set I'll stick to my basic Heavies as well: just waiting on the Minmitar variant. By the way, is there any benefits to skilling into Sentinel suits.
10% faster reload speed if you max the skill out, but otherwise, no. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2032
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:48:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:I hope this suit rocks. It doesn't :/ I'm sure a couple talented players will beast with it somehow.....I'll stick with my basic heavies tyvm. I might, maybe, try Sentinals at some point, but...yea, I'm set I'll stick to my basic Heavies as well: just waiting on the Minmitar variant. By the way, is there any benefits to skilling into Sentinel suits. 10% faster reload speed if you max the skill out, but otherwise, no. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
H'mm I think i just broke a record |
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KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
100
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:50:00 -
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Quote:The heavy Commando dropsuit is less durable than the Sentinel but is faster and more agile, allowing you to better engage and disengage from firefights. ItGÇÖs also currently the only heavy frame to feature an equipment slot. But this flexibility comes at the price of losing a grenade slot and sporting very few module slots (none at the Standard tier, in fact).
1. .3 isnt that much of an increase for losing almost 400 ehp without the ability to equip mods (1012 ehp base on Sentinel STD vs 625 with commando STD and 1590 sentinel proto and 921 commando proto/ [witn complex ] 849 with ferroscale those curious)
2. When you add that loss of a heavy weapon slot in with the rest of those "prices" doesnt seem quite as fair.
STD commando breakdown vs Sentnel (assuming tanked sentinel with skills) additions: .3 km/h speed upgraded sidearm slot (not two light weapons because heavys slots can fit light weapons) equipment slot
losses: 694 ehp (more if new plates equipped instead of complex to save speed "boost") 3 module slots heavy weapons slot race bonus because no modules grenade slot 14 PG 68 CPU
no change: heavy's large hitbox turn speed (as far as the dev blog describes no increase here [agility could very well just describe running])
Proto Commando vs Sentinel breakdown (assuming same as before)
additions: .3 km/h speed upgraded sidearm slot equipment slot 3% reload speed per level (sentinel has reload too) 10% module efficiency (used in ehp math so lolz at this)
losses: 893 ehp heavy weapons slot grenade slot 2 module slots 10 PG 46 CPU
no change: heavy's large hitbox turn speed (as far as the dev blog describes no increase here [agility could very well just describe running])
Take a second and look, the benefits do not outweigh the cons. its not as if you can use both light weapons at once. Plus you have to switch weapons which takes time so mid firefight would be a kitten anyways (not that they have the tank to be in a firefight). This is not a good suit it either needs significantly more speed, more modules, or a heavy weapons slot instead of one of the lights (which you could still use 2 lights if you felt like anyways). This suit will flop and it saddens me because i wanted more heavy content and got it....
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Quote:It really won't though, its MAX hp is around where an assault/logi (commando proto = 835 MAX with ferroscale why lose your speed bonus...) is plus it slower and has a larger hitbox. The basic amarr heavy frame with stamina mods will be more effective at what the commando proto is trying to accomplish, especially with the introduction of ferroscale plates as well. Base Amarr heavy frame gets base 1012 hp. Basic amarr can equip. damage mods, catalyzers, flux grenades, scrambler pistol, AR of choice (mix and match however you want ie SCR/SMG/AV nades) = more tank and more gank than a commando plus increased speed AND Stamina (if you equip catalyzers). |
Terra Thesis
HDYLTA Defiant Legacy
274
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Posted - 2013.06.28 00:09:00 -
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KOBLAKA1 wrote:STD commando breakdown vs Sentnel (assuming tanked sentinel with skills) additions: .3 km/h speed upgraded sidearm slot (not two light weapons because heavys slots can fit light weapons) equipment slot
losses: 694 ehp (more if new plates equipped instead of complex to save speed "boost") 3 module slots heavy weapons slot race bonus because no modules grenade slot 14 PG 68 CPU
no change: heavy's large hitbox turn speed (as far as the dev blog describes no increase here [agility could very well just describe running])
Cut and pasting the same mistakes from the other thread.
1) You don't get the 694 ehp AND the 3 module slots AND the PG/CPU. You can only get the 694 if you already used up the fitting for max EHP.
2) The racial bonus on both suits suck. |
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