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Aisha Ctarl
The Generals
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.27 18:46:00 -
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So I know there are two variants of each suit frame. So far there are heavy and sentinel, medium (assault) and logi, and light (scout) and presumably commando?
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Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
964
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Posted - 2013.06.27 18:46:00 -
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Commando will probably go under the heavy frame. |
Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
102
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Posted - 2013.06.27 18:47:00 -
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Indeed, heavy.
http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/06/the-commando-uprising-1.2-brings-new-dropsuit-role/ |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
212
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Posted - 2013.06.27 18:48:00 -
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Heavy is a frame, Medium and Assault are two separate suit frames, and the pilot suit will be the second T II light frame. The Commando is be a T II Heavy Frame.
Peace, Godin  |
Aisha Ctarl
The Generals
EoN.
358
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Posted - 2013.06.27 18:49:00 -
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Damn ok.
So it's going to be another slow fatsuit that can carry two lights. Was kind of hoping for something a little more exciting.
Plus wouldn't that now give the "heavy" frame three different types - heavy, sentinel, and now commando? |
Dirks Macker
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2013.06.27 18:50:00 -
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No grenade slot and no module slots at the standard tier.
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xLTShinySidesx
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
450
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Posted - 2013.06.27 18:52:00 -
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The bonus' are 2% efficacy of shield and armor mods? All shield and armor mods? Hmm |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
212
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Posted - 2013.06.27 18:54:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Damn ok. So it's going to be another slow fatsuit that can carry two lights. Was kind of hoping for something a little more exciting. Plus wouldn't that now give the "heavy" frame three different types - heavy, sentinel, and now commando?
Yes, I was talking specifically about the T II frames. |
Shrapnels
The Order 1886
137
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Posted - 2013.06.27 18:59:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:So I know there are two variants of each suit frame. So far there are heavy and sentinel, medium (assault) and logi, and light (scout) and presumably commando?
please learn to READ properly
the Dev blog clearly states that it is an Amarr HEAVY for patch 1.2 |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
212
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Posted - 2013.06.27 19:00:00 -
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Shrapnels wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:So I know there are two variants of each suit frame. So far there are heavy and sentinel, medium (assault) and logi, and light (scout) and presumably commando?
please learn to READ properly the Dev blog clearly states that it is an Amarr HEAVY for patch 1.2
Maybe he hasn't read it, or even knew about it? Stop being rude, as he's not being a idiot. He's just asking. Damn bro.......
Peace, Godin |
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Sete Clifton
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
238
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Posted - 2013.06.27 19:03:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Plus wouldn't that now give the "heavy" frame three different types - heavy, sentinel, and now commando?
No, heavy is not a role (just as medium and light frames are not roles), it's just a frame size.
Here's how it should all work:
Light
-Scout
-Pilot
Medium
-Assault
-Logistics
Heavy
-Sentinel
-Commando |
Aisha Ctarl
The Generals
EoN.
358
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Posted - 2013.06.27 19:03:00 -
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Shrapnels wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:So I know there are two variants of each suit frame. So far there are heavy and sentinel, medium (assault) and logi, and light (scout) and presumably commando?
please learn to READ properly the Dev blog clearly states that it is an Amarr HEAVY for patch 1.2
I hadn't had a chance to read it.
I am in school to be a neurologist which takes my time so I'm a pretty proficient reader. What are you doing with your life? |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1028
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Posted - 2013.06.27 19:04:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:So I know there are two variants of each suit frame. So far there are heavy and sentinel, medium (assault) and logi, and light (scout) and presumably commando?
Heavy is the frame; there is the generic frame, and then there is specialized suits: the Sentinel frame and the Commando frame.
There is also the Medium generic, and then the role specifics are the Assault and Logistics.
The Small frame has a generic, with the role specifics as Scout and Pilot (Soonish) |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
212
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Posted - 2013.06.27 19:08:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:So I know there are two variants of each suit frame. So far there are heavy and sentinel, medium (assault) and logi, and light (scout) and presumably commando?
Heavy is the frame; there is the generic frame, and then there is specialized suits: the Sentinel frame and the Commando frame. There is also the Medium generic, and then the role specifics are the Assault and Logistics. The Small frame has a generic, with the role specifics as Scout and Pilot (SOONtm)
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Dao Ferret
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
133
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Posted - 2013.06.27 19:10:00 -
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Sete Clifton wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Plus wouldn't that now give the "heavy" frame three different types - heavy, sentinel, and now commando? No, heavy is not a role (just as medium and light frames are not roles), it's just a frame size. Here's how it should all work: Light -Scout -Pilot Medium -Assault -Logistics Heavy -Sentinel -Commando
This, but CCP sometimes confuses the issue by calling the non-base suits "roles" and sometimes calling them "specializations".
Essentially, the base suits are generic versions that don't have specialization bonuses that help them better fill roles, but all three Frame types will have three types of suits: the generic suit, and the two specialization suits. |
A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
236
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Posted - 2013.06.27 19:17:00 -
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Anybody considering it needs to make sure they have enough SP to get to the ADV suit as a minimum in my opinion.
I assume you will need lvl 3 basic heavy and then lvl 3 commando to do this. If that is the case and you have nothing in heavy then you are talking about 820k SP. |
Aisha Ctarl
The Generals
EoN.
358
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Posted - 2013.06.27 19:23:00 -
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A'Real Fury wrote:Anybody considering it needs to make sure they have enough SP to get to the ADV suit as a minimum in my opinion.
I assume you will need lvl 3 basic heavy and then lvl 3 commando to do this. If that is the case and you have nothing in heavy then you are talking about 820k SP.
Yeah I have nothing in heavy...it's all in Amarr medium and assault (level V).
Oh well, I don't plan on speccing into the heavy frames or the commando for that matter, was just curious what frame it fell under. |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
212
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Posted - 2013.06.27 19:23:00 -
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Dao Ferret wrote:Sete Clifton wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Plus wouldn't that now give the "heavy" frame three different types - heavy, sentinel, and now commando? No, heavy is not a role (just as medium and light frames are not roles), it's just a frame size. Here's how it should all work: Light -Scout -Pilot Medium -Assault -Logistics Heavy -Sentinel -Commando This, but CCP sometimes confuses the issue by calling the non-base suits "roles" and sometimes calling them "specializations". Essentially, the base suits are generic versions that don't have specialization bonuses that help them better fill roles, but all three Frame types will have three types of suits: the generic suit, and the two specialization suits.
In EVE terms, This is T I (Tech 1), and T II (Tech 2).
Peace, Godin
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ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
19
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Posted - 2013.06.27 19:31:00 -
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A'Real Fury wrote:Anybody considering it needs to make sure they have enough SP to get to the ADV suit as a minimum in my opinion.
I assume you will need lvl 3 basic heavy and then lvl 3 commando to do this. If that is the case and you have nothing in heavy then you are talking about 820k SP.
For the lvl 1 Sentinel Suit you need lvl 5 Amarr Heavy Dropsuit Command (or as you called it "basic heavy")... I would venture a guess it will be the same requirment for the Commando. |
Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
104
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Posted - 2013.06.27 20:08:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Damn ok. So it's going to be another slow fatsuit that can carry two lights. Was kind of hoping for something a little more exciting. Plus wouldn't that now give the "heavy" frame three different types - heavy, sentinel, and now commando?
Yeah, I don't quite make sense of the use of the heavy frame either for the commando.
But, perhaps it's not the frame, but the name of the specialization. I think of commando's as being adaptable, mobile and deadly.... I'd think a commando in Dust would be an assault with a bit more speed (say, Minmatar medium movement rates), with the ability to equip 2 light weapons. That would be pretty brutal.... not that Dust needs much more love on the meduim frames. I guess low/high slots would need to be adjusted to balance....
Or maybe a light frame w/ the 2 medium weapons, similar to the "black eagle" dropsuits some folks have as rewards (not that they ever get used). Or a standard light suits w/ an extra EQ slot.... many options.
As it stands though the heavy/commando I'm sure will be a force to be reckoned with. Now the Forge/SMG guys can have a similar PlasmaCannon/AR variant..... And the AV options are much more versatile. |
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