DUST Search - 2650 sustained average player count is a bit low?

CuuCH Crusher wrote:

Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:

CuuCH Crusher wrote:

GLiMPSE X wrote:

Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:

max 5200
min 100
5200 minus 100 equals 5100
5100 divided by 2 equals 2550
max 5200 minus 2550 equals 2650 sustained average player count
min 100 plus 2550 equals 2650 sustained average player count

eve online source numbers rounded.

anywho player count is low?

Your math seems sound but your logic seems flawed.

No his math/science is flawed too. It would have had more of an impact if he took 10 samples (player count) though out the day and then ran the averages. Come on bro taking two sample and then trying to get the average is a good way to get biased results. NGFR

nah! go to eveonline and see for yourself that its not 5200 sustained but instead a PEAK number for only a few HOURS
Actual sustained player count is LOWER than the PEAK number that folks keep pointing at.

Bro the only stat that should matter is the average player count though out the day. All that min max bullshit means nothing.

Pro tip: when doing averages you should have at least 10 samples. Also never use min and max because it leads to biased averages.

Like I said before NGFR

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Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 550	Posted - 2013.06.27 05:06:00 - [1] - Quote max 5200 min 100 5200 minus 100 equals 5100 5100 divided by 2 equals 2550 max 5200 minus 2550 equals 2650 sustained average player count min 100 plus 2550 equals 2650 sustained average player count eve online source numbers rounded. anywho player count is low?
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 437	Posted - 2013.06.27 05:08:00 - [2] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: max 5200 min 100 5200 minus 100 equals 5100 5100 divided by 2 equals 2550 max 5200 minus 2550 equals 2650 sustained average player count min 100 plus 2550 equals 2650 sustained average player count eve online source numbers rounded. anywho player count is low? Remember that 100 is right after downtime and quickly rises.
GLiMPSE X Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 177	Posted - 2013.06.27 05:10:00 - [3] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: max 5200 min 100 5200 minus 100 equals 5100 5100 divided by 2 equals 2550 max 5200 minus 2550 equals 2650 sustained average player count min 100 plus 2550 equals 2650 sustained average player count eve online source numbers rounded. anywho player count is low? Your math seems sound but your logic seems flawed.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 550	Posted - 2013.06.27 05:31:00 - [4] - Quote GLiMPSE X wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: max 5200 min 100 5200 minus 100 equals 5100 5100 divided by 2 equals 2550 max 5200 minus 2550 equals 2650 sustained average player count min 100 plus 2550 equals 2650 sustained average player count eve online source numbers rounded. anywho player count is low? Your math seems sound but your logic seems flawed. logic? when a store costing millions of dollars is being proposed the very first thing is a mean average monthly traffic count.
CuuCH Crusher Commando Perkone Caldari State 41	Posted - 2013.06.27 05:31:00 - [5] - Quote GLiMPSE X wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: max 5200 min 100 5200 minus 100 equals 5100 5100 divided by 2 equals 2550 max 5200 minus 2550 equals 2650 sustained average player count min 100 plus 2550 equals 2650 sustained average player count eve online source numbers rounded. anywho player count is low? Your math seems sound but your logic seems flawed. No his math/science is flawed too. It would have had more of an impact if he took 10 samples (player count) though out the day and then ran the averages. Come on bro taking two sample and then trying to get the average is a good way to get biased results. NGFR
FATPrincess - XOXO Shining Flame Amarr Empire 4	Posted - 2013.06.27 05:37:00 - [6] - Quote lol whut Average is sum of samples over total # of samples Do it for a week for a total of 7 samples.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 550	Posted - 2013.06.27 05:37:00 - [7] - Quote CuuCH Crusher wrote: GLiMPSE X wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: max 5200 min 100 5200 minus 100 equals 5100 5100 divided by 2 equals 2550 max 5200 minus 2550 equals 2650 sustained average player count min 100 plus 2550 equals 2650 sustained average player count eve online source numbers rounded. anywho player count is low? Your math seems sound but your logic seems flawed. No his math/science is flawed too. It would have had more of an impact if he took 10 samples (player count) though out the day and then ran the averages. Come on bro taking two sample and then trying to get the average is a good way to get biased results. NGFR nah! go to eveonline and see for yourself that its not 5200 sustained but instead a PEAK number for only a few HOURS Actual sustained player count is LOWER than the PEAK number that folks keep pointing at.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 551	Posted - 2013.06.27 05:40:00 - [8] - Quote FATPrincess - XOXO wrote: lol whut Average is sum of samples over total # of samples Do it for a week for a total of 7 samples. eveonline has it for daily , weekly and monthly traffic counts and the numbers are low.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 492	Posted - 2013.06.27 05:41:00 - [9] - Quote lulz.. average = (max - min)/2... thats some kindergarden math right there. You need to use time averaging to get a statistically meaningful average player count. however.. it doesn't really matter.. cause the time average player count is still probably only around 4000-4500 or so... which is still pretty small.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 551	Posted - 2013.06.27 05:48:00 - [10] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: lulz.. average = (max - min)/2... thats some kindergarden math right there. You need to use time averaging to get a statistically meaningful average player count. however.. it doesn't really matter.. cause the time average player count is still probably only around 4000-4500 or so... which is still pretty small. in a monthly sample it went from 5000 to below 4000, weekly below 3500 daily below 3000 not that it matters but lol at folks pointing at peak numbers saying thats actual sustained player counts.

CuuCH Crusher Commando Perkone Caldari State 41	Posted - 2013.06.27 05:49:00 - [11] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: CuuCH Crusher wrote: GLiMPSE X wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: max 5200 min 100 5200 minus 100 equals 5100 5100 divided by 2 equals 2550 max 5200 minus 2550 equals 2650 sustained average player count min 100 plus 2550 equals 2650 sustained average player count eve online source numbers rounded. anywho player count is low? Your math seems sound but your logic seems flawed. No his math/science is flawed too. It would have had more of an impact if he took 10 samples (player count) though out the day and then ran the averages. Come on bro taking two sample and then trying to get the average is a good way to get biased results. NGFR nah! go to eveonline and see for yourself that its not 5200 sustained but instead a PEAK number for only a few HOURS Actual sustained player count is LOWER than the PEAK number that folks keep pointing at. Bro the only stat that should matter is the average player count though out the day. All that min max bullshit means nothing. Pro tip: when doing averages you should have at least 10 samples. Also never use min and max because it leads to biased averages. Like I said before NGFR
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 551	Posted - 2013.06.27 05:54:00 - [12] - Quote CuuCH Crusher wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: CuuCH Crusher wrote: GLiMPSE X wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: max 5200 min 100 5200 minus 100 equals 5100 5100 divided by 2 equals 2550 max 5200 minus 2550 equals 2650 sustained average player count min 100 plus 2550 equals 2650 sustained average player count eve online source numbers rounded. anywho player count is low? Your math seems sound but your logic seems flawed. No his math/science is flawed too. It would have had more of an impact if he took 10 samples (player count) though out the day and then ran the averages. Come on bro taking two sample and then trying to get the average is a good way to get biased results. NGFR nah! go to eveonline and see for yourself that its not 5200 sustained but instead a PEAK number for only a few HOURS Actual sustained player count is LOWER than the PEAK number that folks keep pointing at. Bro the only stat that should matter is the average player count though out the day. All that min max bullshit means nothing. Pro tip: when doing averages you should have at least 10 samples. Also never use min and max because it leads to biased averages. Like I said before NGFR eveonline has the numbers but not that it matters anymore .
ODB PLZ QcGOLD Astroya Conglomerate 0	Posted - 2013.06.27 05:58:00 - [13] - Quote 3000 to 5000 peoples 24/7 is not that bad 1.2 = jesus patch
CuuCH Crusher Commando Perkone Caldari State 41	Posted - 2013.06.27 06:15:00 - [14] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: right! only count rush hour traffic ??.....lol. The only reason I keep replying is because I don't want your ignorance spreading. You can take the samples at random though out the day. You don't have to grab them from rush hour points. It is important not to use the minimum value especially in this case because during and near down time the player count will skew the result of the averages. Here are some examples. Good Reliable averages: Sample ( 20, 23, 24, 23, 30, 29, 32, 28, 29, 22) Good Average= 26 Bad Unreliable averages: Sample (20, 23, 24, 23, 30, 29, 32, 28, 29, 5000) Bad Average= 523.8 Clearly the 5000 should have been omitted from the bad sample because it was an outlier and left us with an unreliable stat. This lesson can and should be applied to player count during server downtime because people can't play the game when the servers are down so obviously there will be a dramatic decrease in player count. As stated before this produces an outlier and it should be omitted.
OZAROW A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 36	Posted - 2013.06.27 06:24:00 - [15] - Quote Nerds
CuuCH Crusher Commando Perkone Caldari State 41	Posted - 2013.06.27 06:36:00 - [16] - Quote OZAROW wrote: Nerds If you say so. What is a "Nerd" anyway? Care to explain?
geddeylee Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2013.06.27 07:56:00 - [17] - Quote Yes player count is tragically low, especially on cap day.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 442	Posted - 2013.06.27 08:02:00 - [18] - Quote ODB PLZ wrote: 3000 to 5000 peoples 24/7 is not that bad 1.2 = jesus patch Don't get your hopes up too high.
A B Ablabab The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 18	Posted - 2013.06.27 08:03:00 - [19] - Quote By the way, this has been done for you and put in pretty graphs. http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust Looks like numbers are falling after the release spike, but still higher than open beta. So don't call this dead yet.
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 233	Posted - 2013.06.27 09:17:00 - [20] - Quote Not sure the long term graphs, 3 months and greater, are viable or if the dating system applied was incorrect. If you hover over the peaks on the left hand side none of them display a date earlier than the 4th May 2013 (The 1 year chart). So we can not be sure that the actual numbers displayed for closed and open beta are accurate. However, what we can see is that the player count is trending downwards as the peak is steadily getting closer to the 5000 mark but for most of the time there is at least 3000 players on except for the hour or so around downtime.

Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 551	Posted - 2013.06.27 11:27:00 - [21] - Quote I have my PS4 pre-order so not calling Dust 514 dead just yet but then I just had a domination game where it was just me the entire match....lol.
OZAROW A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 37	Posted - 2013.06.27 11:32:00 - [22] - Quote CuuCH Crusher wrote: [quote=OZAROW]Nerds If you say so. What is a "Nerd" anyway? Care to explain?[/quote "I rest my case your honor."

CCP Eterne C C P C C P Alliance 2131	Posted - 2013.06.27 11:49:00 - [23] - Quote I am locking this thread for being nonconstructive.



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