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cy6
Raging Pack of Homos
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Posted - 2013.06.26 03:28:00 -
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I am requesting an increase in the lazer rifle's dmg from 17 at all tiers to 20, 25, and 30 at the standard, advanced and prototype levels respectfully; In order to increase their effectiveness while not creating a balance issue. |
D3LTA Blitzkrieg II
0uter.Heaven League of Infamy
3
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Posted - 2013.06.26 03:30:00 -
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a increase in DMG is needed but only with consistant continous fire making the use vulnerable in short range engagements and balancing the weapon. We must not swing the pendulum from UP to OP |
cy6
Raging Pack of Homos
61
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Posted - 2013.06.26 03:32:00 -
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D3LTA Blitzkrieg II wrote:a increase in DMG is needed but only with consistant continous fire making the use vulnerable in short range engagements and balancing the weapon. We must not swing the pendulum from UP to OP
are you saying to remove the increase of dmg as it progresses? |
D3LTA Blitzkrieg II
0uter.Heaven League of Infamy
3
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Posted - 2013.06.26 03:40:00 -
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no, keep base DMG the same, just buff the damage over time |
Talos Alomar
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
982
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Posted - 2013.06.26 05:10:00 -
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D3LTA Blitzkrieg II wrote:no, keep base DMG the same, just buff the damage over time
agreed. The LR takes way too long to kill someone. I say cap it at a reasonable amount of damage and have the LR get up to that pint much faster.
I started speccing back into LRs and it takes way to long to kill someone to be worth not being useful in close quarters.
I'll have a detailed feedback on my thoughts coming back to the weapon after my time in the desert. |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
186
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Posted - 2013.06.26 05:27:00 -
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fix the sights too. (note: Godin The Killer doesn't use any Amarr Weapons)
Peace, Godin |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
186
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Posted - 2013.06.26 05:28:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:D3LTA Blitzkrieg II wrote:no, keep base DMG the same, just buff the damage over time agreed. The LR takes way too long to kill someone. I say cap it at a reasonable amount of damage and have the LR get up to that pint much faster. I started speccing back into LRs and it takes way to long to kill someone to be worth not being useful in close quarters. I'll have a detailed feedback on my thoughts coming back to the weapon after my time in the desert.
it isn't a CQ weapon you idiot. You're not doing it right. |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
317
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Posted - 2013.06.26 08:41:00 -
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No you attacked him while misreading his statement. Your belligerence hopefully won't blind you from recognizing your folly and apologizing. He essentially said it's not good enough of a killer to warrant the downsides of its known cqc ineptitude. SMH. |
Echoist
Fenrir's Wolves RUST415
14
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Posted - 2013.06.26 09:30:00 -
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Why don't they make a variant for cqc. Would kinda make sense since its a laser and the further it goes the weaker the beam gets. Just my opinion though don't linch me lol. |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
187
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Posted - 2013.06.26 10:08:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:No you attacked him while misreading his statement. Your belligerence hopefully won't blind you from recognizing your folly and apologizing. He essentially said it's not good enough of a killer to warrant the downsides of its known cqc ineptitude. SMH.
checked my copy log (program I made that has a picture of every site and page that I ever looked up for this exact reason), and there was no "not", which makes me correct, and he's trying to be slick, and he's not slick. |
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Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
187
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Posted - 2013.06.26 10:09:00 -
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Echoist wrote:Why don't they make a variant for cqc. Would kinda make sense since its a laser and the further it goes the weaker the beam gets. Just my opinion though don't linch me lol.
Beam lasers (which is what the LR is) is meant for long range. No. Your not doing it right either. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
474
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Posted - 2013.06.26 10:30:00 -
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Echoist wrote:Why don't they make a variant for cqc. Would kinda make sense since its a laser and the further it goes the weaker the beam gets. Just my opinion though don't linch me lol.
Come on now. We all know the that the frequency of the modulation is set to resonate at long distance. Duh. |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
188
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Posted - 2013.06.26 10:35:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Echoist wrote:Why don't they make a variant for cqc. Would kinda make sense since its a laser and the further it goes the weaker the beam gets. Just my opinion though don't linch me lol. Come on now. We all know the that the frequency of the modulation is set to resonate at long distance. Duh.
It must have Radiowave frequency crystals in it.... oh wait (notices that PR's shoots further) nm. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
475
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Posted - 2013.06.26 11:57:00 -
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On the topic of frequency crystals, would allowing the LR to have different ranges based on crystals make the LR better? I love the LR and I would like to see more iterations that change the range and damage. I like options and the LR has none. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
258
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Posted - 2013.06.26 11:59:00 -
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cy6 wrote:I am requesting an increase in the lazer rifle's dmg from 17 at all tiers to 20, 25, and 30 at the standard, advanced and prototype levels respectfully; In order to increase their effectiveness while not creating a balance issue.
The high damage it had from Chromosome was the reason it was so heavily nerfed in this incarnation. What the laser needs more than damage is a better sight or the old sights. The current damage and heat build up work well enough as they are now.
Buff range and sights. |
TheEnd762
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
76
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Posted - 2013.06.26 12:16:00 -
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-1 It was nerfed for a reason. Just give it better sights. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
475
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Posted - 2013.06.26 12:24:00 -
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TheEnd762 wrote:-1 It was nerfed for a reason. Just give it better sights.
A little less feedback damage would be nice but fixing the sights would totally change the LR for the better. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
258
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Posted - 2013.06.26 12:25:00 -
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TheEnd762 wrote:-1 It was nerfed for a reason. Just give it better sights.
It was nerfed for the Viziam. The basic laser and the ELM were fine, just the Viziam that screwed up the weapon type. |
Sibri Vannikh
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.06.26 13:59:00 -
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There are only three small things I would change: The sight, the brightness and thick of the beam and the skill bonus. The LR is a long range weapon and should do the role of an LMG. But the sight is just crap. It covers most of the target and does barely zoom in. I recommend to swap the sight of SR and LR and give the iron sight a better zoom. The beam is too bright and thick so it also covers a lot of the target. It-¦s just an idea but ir would be nice to see the damage or heat status on the beam. You start with a "dark" beam and when the damage/heat increases it gets brighter. If it-¦s short to overheat it should be like it is at the moment. Change the skill bonus of the Amarr Assault to -5% Cooldown Time of Energy weapons and give the LR the -5% Heat build up. This might be a bit off topic but a faster Cooldown suits better for an Assault and with the -5% Heat build up the laser rifle is useable on all suits not just the Amarr Assault. |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
319
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Posted - 2013.06.26 15:47:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:No you attacked him while misreading his statement. Your belligerence hopefully won't blind you from recognizing your folly and apologizing. He essentially said it's not good enough of a killer to warrant the downsides of its known cqc ineptitude. SMH. checked my copy log (program I made that has a picture of every site and page that I ever looked up for this exact reason), and there was no "not", which makes me correct, and he's trying to be slick, and he's not slick.
No you are trying to be slick instead of apologizing. If he'd changed it it would have an edited text in red. No text, you are simply wrong, and now you are trying to cover it up. |
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XV1
Ninth Legion Freelance
22
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Posted - 2013.06.26 15:57:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:No you attacked him while misreading his statement. Your belligerence hopefully won't blind you from recognizing your folly and apologizing. He essentially said it's not good enough of a killer to warrant the downsides of its known cqc ineptitude. SMH. checked my copy log (program I made that has a picture of every site and page that I ever looked up for this exact reason), and there was no "not", which makes me correct, and he's trying to be slick, and he's not slick. No you are trying to be slick instead of apologizing. If he'd changed it it would have an edited text in red. No text, you are simply wrong, and now you are trying to cover it up. I even edited this post so you can see the red overhead. DOUBLE SMH.
I didn't know that it put red text in. Thought there was just a small message at the top of post. Either way it's not there, checked when he said he checked his "copy log." I would like to look into this program though as it could be useful, however I do not think I would use it primarily to argue on forums
Hm, I see it as red here, but on your post it lacks the red and does not link to the original post. Strange. |
XV1
Ninth Legion Freelance
22
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Posted - 2013.06.26 16:00:00 -
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I do agree with the OP that the laser rifle has bad scaling. Looking at the stats they all have the same damage with only the heat build up really being different. |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
325
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Posted - 2013.06.26 22:25:00 -
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XV1 wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:No you attacked him while misreading his statement. Your belligerence hopefully won't blind you from recognizing your folly and apologizing. He essentially said it's not good enough of a killer to warrant the downsides of its known cqc ineptitude. SMH. checked my copy log (program I made that has a picture of every site and page that I ever looked up for this exact reason), and there was no "not", which makes me correct, and he's trying to be slick, and he's not slick. No you are trying to be slick instead of apologizing. If he'd changed it it would have an edited text in red. No text, you are simply wrong, and now you are trying to cover it up. I even edited this post so you can see the red overhead. DOUBLE SMH. I didn't know that it put red text in. Thought there was just a small message at the top of post. Either way it's not there, checked when he said he checked his "copy log." I would like to look into this program though as it could be useful, however I do not think I would use it primarily to argue on forums Hm, I see it as red here, but on your post it lacks the red and does not link to the original post. Strange.
Edited cause I was tired to clarify. ^_^ |
Sigbjorn Foerik
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
24
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Posted - 2013.06.27 06:06:00 -
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Higher damage would be nice but it should not be too much. 20-20-22-25 seem appropriated to me. |
Echoist
Fenrir's Wolves RUST415
15
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Posted - 2013.06.28 09:23:00 -
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Sibri Vannikh wrote:There are only three small things I would change: The sight, the brightness and thick of the beam and the skill bonus. The LR is a long range weapon and should do the role of an LMG. But the sight is just crap. It covers most of the target and does barely zoom in. I recommend to swap the sight of SR and LR and give the iron sight a better zoom. The beam is too bright and thick so it also covers a lot of the target. It-¦s just an idea but ir would be nice to see the damage or heat status on the beam. You start with a "dark" beam and when the damage/heat increases it gets brighter. If it-¦s short to overheat it should be like it is at the moment. Change the skill bonus of the Amarr Assault to -5% Cooldown Time of Energy weapons and give the LR the -5% Heat build up. This might be a bit off topic but a faster Cooldown suits better for an Assault and with the -5% Heat build up the laser rifle is useable on all suits not just the Amarr Assault.
I use the laser rifle almost exclusively and also use the minmatar basic advanced suit and i almost never have a problem with the heat build up. If i do overheat which i do from time to time its not the rifle's fault it's mine for not keeping track of it. Although i do believe that the feedback damage is way too much especially when i'm using my viziam. Although with the new armor plates coming out it shouldn't be as much of a problem anymore. I think the only two things that need to change with the rifle is its sights and the feedback damage, everything else is just fine. |
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