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Kevlar Waffles
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.25 20:45:00 -
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So im running around in a militia assault suit with my two flaylocks and i run into a logi right? no worries ill just shoot him down like the other 10 guys that i killed oh no! my first 3 shots didnt do much ill just use my other fp to kill him, no luck and i die, ok maybe it was that one guy NOPE! every logi i run into has enough hp to take 6 flaylocks in succession, is this supposed to happen? Im not complaining i just wonder if they are supposed to be tougher than a heavy and as fast as an assault |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
2098
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Posted - 2013.06.25 20:47:00 -
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Ugh |
Kevlar Waffles
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.25 20:49:00 -
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well at least give some feedback if you dont want to see this kind of stuff you little hypocrite |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.25 20:51:00 -
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ugh |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.25 20:54:00 -
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Kevlar Waffles wrote:So im running around in a militia assault suit with my two flaylocks and i run into a logi right? no worries ill just shoot him down like the other 10 guys that i killed oh no! my first 3 shots didnt do much ill just use my other fp to kill him, no luck and i die, ok maybe it was that one guy NOPE! every logi i run into has enough hp to take 6 flaylocks in succession, is this supposed to happen? Im not complaining i just wonder if they are supposed to be tougher than a heavy and as fast as an assault
You know for your one QQ thread about logis, there are (reportedly...) 10 dudes who are QQing on the inside about OP flaylocks, right? OMFG I can't kill everything!!!!!... in a militia assault.
The fact is, most of the people who specced into cal logi (I assume what you mean) are older players with a crap ton of SP. So part of the problem isn't that suit, it's that he's probably the one dude you faced with a ******* ***PROTO*** who knew how to use it and not get ganked by your fail standard flaylocks. If you were easily ripping through other proto suits, well, they are bad and should feel bad. Or they're armor tanked... which your flaylocks do more damage to.
WTF is wrong with this generation? |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens EoN.
125
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Posted - 2013.06.25 20:55:00 -
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Kevlar Waffles wrote:well at least give some feedback if you dont want to see this kind of stuff you little hypocrite He actually said it better than I did. |
Kevlar Waffles
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.25 20:56:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:Kevlar Waffles wrote:So im running around in a militia assault suit with my two flaylocks and i run into a logi right? no worries ill just shoot him down like the other 10 guys that i killed oh no! my first 3 shots didnt do much ill just use my other fp to kill him, no luck and i die, ok maybe it was that one guy NOPE! every logi i run into has enough hp to take 6 flaylocks in succession, is this supposed to happen? Im not complaining i just wonder if they are supposed to be tougher than a heavy and as fast as an assault You know for your one QQ thread about logis, there are (reportedly...) 10 dudes who are QQing on the inside about OP flaylocks, right? OMFG I can't kill everything!!!!!... in a militia assault. The fact is, most of the people who specced into cal logi (I assume what you mean) are older players with a crap ton of SP. So part of the problem isn't that suit, it's that he's probably the one dude you faced with a ******* ***PROTO*** who knew how to use it and not get ganked by your fail standard flaylocks. If you were easily ripping through other proto suits, well, they are bad and should feel bad. Or they're armor tanked... which your flaylocks do more damage to. WTF is wrong with this generation?
hooooooooooooooooow about you guys read the post clearly, im asking if logis are supposed to be high in hp im perfectly fine with dying from a logi, if someone can kill me they are better than me and deserve that kill |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
2098
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Posted - 2013.06.25 20:57:00 -
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Kevlar Waffles wrote:well at least give some feedback if you dont want to see this kind of stuff you little hypocrite *Ahem* |
Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Frontlinez Omega Commission
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Posted - 2013.06.25 20:58:00 -
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Kevlar Waffles wrote:So im running around in a militia assault suit with my two flaylocks and i run into a logi right? no worries ill just shoot him down like the other 10 guys that i killed oh no! my first 3 shots didnt do much ill just use my other fp to kill him, no luck and i die, ok maybe it was that one guy NOPE! every logi i run into has enough hp to take 6 flaylocks in succession, is this supposed to happen? Im not complaining i just wonder if they are supposed to be tougher than a heavy and as fast as an assault LOL! A Logi faster than an Assault, and more HP than a Heavy? The fail is strong with this one... |
Kevlar Waffles
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.25 20:59:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:Kevlar Waffles wrote:So im running around in a militia assault suit with my two flaylocks and i run into a logi right? no worries ill just shoot him down like the other 10 guys that i killed oh no! my first 3 shots didnt do much ill just use my other fp to kill him, no luck and i die, ok maybe it was that one guy NOPE! every logi i run into has enough hp to take 6 flaylocks in succession, is this supposed to happen? Im not complaining i just wonder if they are supposed to be tougher than a heavy and as fast as an assault LOL! A Logi faster than an Assault, and more HP than a Heavy? The fail is strong with this one...
obviously doesnt understand over exageration |
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Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.25 21:01:00 -
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Kevlar Waffles wrote:So im running around in a militia assault suit with my two flaylocks and i run into a logi right? no worries ill just shoot him down like the other 10 guys that i killed oh no! my first 3 shots didnt do much ill just use my other fp to kill him, no luck and i die, ok maybe it was that one guy NOPE! every logi i run into has enough hp to take 6 flaylocks in succession, is this supposed to happen? Im not complaining i just wonder if they are supposed to be tougher than a heavy and as fast as an assault
OP mad about his broken weapon in a militia suit not destroying other also broken FLOM suitsGǪSMH |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens EoN.
126
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Posted - 2013.06.25 21:01:00 -
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Kevlar Waffles wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Kevlar Waffles wrote:So im running around in a militia assault suit with my two flaylocks and i run into a logi right? no worries ill just shoot him down like the other 10 guys that i killed oh no! my first 3 shots didnt do much ill just use my other fp to kill him, no luck and i die, ok maybe it was that one guy NOPE! every logi i run into has enough hp to take 6 flaylocks in succession, is this supposed to happen? Im not complaining i just wonder if they are supposed to be tougher than a heavy and as fast as an assault You know for your one QQ thread about logis, there are (reportedly...) 10 dudes who are QQing on the inside about OP flaylocks, right? OMFG I can't kill everything!!!!!... in a militia assault. The fact is, most of the people who specced into cal logi (I assume what you mean) are older players with a crap ton of SP. So part of the problem isn't that suit, it's that he's probably the one dude you faced with a ******* ***PROTO*** who knew how to use it and not get ganked by your fail standard flaylocks. If you were easily ripping through other proto suits, well, they are bad and should feel bad. Or they're armor tanked... which your flaylocks do more damage to. WTF is wrong with this generation? hooooooooooooooooow about you guys read the post clearly, im asking if logis are supposed to be high in hp im perfectly fine with dying from a logi, if someone can kill me they are better than me and deserve that kill hooooooooooooooooow about you learn the difference between militia and proto gear and stop making veiled attempts to appear cool by slipping in there that you killed 10 guys with fotm flaylocks while jumping on anti logi bandwagon in an attempt to make people care about a death you're still crying over? |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.06.25 21:02:00 -
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How do you guys all know he's using the core... cause you guys do realize the STD sucks right? |
Kevlar Waffles
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.25 21:04:00 -
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instead of answering the actual question how about we all just write how much we hate the guy for using op weapons! |
Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Frontlinez Omega Commission
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Posted - 2013.06.25 21:06:00 -
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Kevlar Waffles wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:Kevlar Waffles wrote:So im running around in a militia assault suit with my two flaylocks and i run into a logi right? no worries ill just shoot him down like the other 10 guys that i killed oh no! my first 3 shots didnt do much ill just use my other fp to kill him, no luck and i die, ok maybe it was that one guy NOPE! every logi i run into has enough hp to take 6 flaylocks in succession, is this supposed to happen? Im not complaining i just wonder if they are supposed to be tougher than a heavy and as fast as an assault LOL! A Logi faster than an Assault, and more HP than a Heavy? The fail is strong with this one... obviously doesnt understand over exageration Come correct or don't come at all. This is supposed to be constructive feedback, of which you are providing none. You got killed by someone better than you, get over it. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
2098
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Posted - 2013.06.25 21:08:00 -
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Please tell me this is a troll thread. If not, someone needs a respec... on life. |
hooc roht
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.25 21:13:00 -
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Kevlar Waffles wrote:So im running around in a militia assault suit with my two flaylocks and i run into a logi right? no worries ill just shoot him down like the other 10 guys that i killed oh no! my first 3 shots didnt do much ill just use my other fp to kill him, no luck and i die, ok maybe it was that one guy NOPE! every logi i run into has enough hp to take 6 flaylocks in succession, is this supposed to happen? Im not complaining i just wonder if they are supposed to be tougher than a heavy and as fast as an assault
They had high shields genius.
Shoot em with your scram pistol first...oh wait i forgot you have two flaylocks which are good on armor not shields.
/facepalm |
Kevlar Waffles
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.25 21:15:00 -
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hooc roht wrote:Kevlar Waffles wrote:So im running around in a militia assault suit with my two flaylocks and i run into a logi right? no worries ill just shoot him down like the other 10 guys that i killed oh no! my first 3 shots didnt do much ill just use my other fp to kill him, no luck and i die, ok maybe it was that one guy NOPE! every logi i run into has enough hp to take 6 flaylocks in succession, is this supposed to happen? Im not complaining i just wonder if they are supposed to be tougher than a heavy and as fast as an assault They had high shields genius. Shoot em with your scram pistol first...oh wait i forgot you have two flaylocks which are good on armor not shields. /facepalm
thanks, that is really helpful answering if they are supposed to have high hp, really is posting yes they are supposed to be high in hp, I EXPECT TO DIE FROM PROTOS! |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
532
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Posted - 2013.06.25 21:19:00 -
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I can shield tank the crap out of my Calogi proto suit and get ~630 shields and a total of about 720 HP, but I still almost get OHK'ed by core flaylocks (least that is what it seems like).
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Kevlar Waffles
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.25 21:20:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:I can shield tank the crap out of my Calogi proto suit and get ~630 shields and a total of about 720 HP, but I still almost get OHK'ed by core flaylocks (least that is what it seems like).
proto fp does like 250ish damage on hit, no one can direct hit 3 times in a row, its a noob only weapon |
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DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
532
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Posted - 2013.06.25 21:26:00 -
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Kevlar Waffles wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:I can shield tank the crap out of my Calogi proto suit and get ~630 shields and a total of about 720 HP, but I still almost get OHK'ed by core flaylocks (least that is what it seems like).
proto fp does like 250ish damage on hit, no one can direct hit 3 times in a row, its a noob only weapon
The stats are probably wrong, it does a heck of a lot more damage than 250. Think you have to add up splash and direct from what I heard.
Without knowing the stats off hand, say splash is 250 and direct is 250, so if you direct hit somebody you get 500 damage. Not sure if this is the case, but seeing how effective the core flaylock is, it would stand to reason.
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Kevlar Waffles
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.25 21:28:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Kevlar Waffles wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:I can shield tank the crap out of my Calogi proto suit and get ~630 shields and a total of about 720 HP, but I still almost get OHK'ed by core flaylocks (least that is what it seems like).
proto fp does like 250ish damage on hit, no one can direct hit 3 times in a row, its a noob only weapon The stats are probably wrong, it does a heck of a lot more damage than 250. Think you have to add up splash and direct from what I heard. Without knowing the stats off hand, say splash is 250 and direct is 250, so if you direct hit somebody you get 500 damage. Not sure if this is the case, but seeing how effective the core flaylock is, it would stand to reason.
Im pretty sure it isnt because i saw a sniper an shot him direct with an Adv. fp and it only stripped his shields can you imagine 500 damage pistols though? |
IamI3rian
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
242
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Posted - 2013.06.25 21:30:00 -
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Kevlar Waffles wrote:Can you imagine 500 damage pistols though?
So, a Proto Scrambler pistol with a headshot? Yeah, I think I can imagine that. = D
--- Remember: IamI3rian told ya I <3 Rifles |
Kevlar Waffles
Expert Intervention Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.06.25 21:32:00 -
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IamI3rian wrote:Kevlar Waffles wrote:Can you imagine 500 damage pistols though? So, a Proto Scrambler pistol with a headshot? Yeah, I think I can imagine that. = D --- Remember: IamI3rian told ya I <3 Rifles
ok now imagine an SP but red hit boxes are just giant heads |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
2104
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Posted - 2013.06.25 21:32:00 -
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Kevlar Waffles wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:I can shield tank the crap out of my Calogi proto suit and get ~630 shields and a total of about 720 HP, but I still almost get OHK'ed by core flaylocks (least that is what it seems like).
proto fp does like 250ish damage on hit, no one can direct hit 3 times in a row, its a noob only weapon 3 shots in the clip, slow moving projectile that uses broken ballistics physics? Yeah, that's real noobish |
Kevlar Waffles
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.25 21:34:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Kevlar Waffles wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:I can shield tank the crap out of my Calogi proto suit and get ~630 shields and a total of about 720 HP, but I still almost get OHK'ed by core flaylocks (least that is what it seems like).
proto fp does like 250ish damage on hit, no one can direct hit 3 times in a row, its a noob only weapon 3 shots in the clip, slow moving projectile that uses broken ballistics physics? Yeah, that's real noobish
pick a side, first you complain then you say they arent, i use adv fp and it isnt that hard so yea they are noobish |
hooc roht
Deep Space Republic
92
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Posted - 2013.06.25 21:35:00 -
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Kevlar Waffles wrote:hooc roht wrote:Kevlar Waffles wrote:So im running around in a militia assault suit with my two flaylocks and i run into a logi right? no worries ill just shoot him down like the other 10 guys that i killed oh no! my first 3 shots didnt do much ill just use my other fp to kill him, no luck and i die, ok maybe it was that one guy NOPE! every logi i run into has enough hp to take 6 flaylocks in succession, is this supposed to happen? Im not complaining i just wonder if they are supposed to be tougher than a heavy and as fast as an assault They had high shields genius. Shoot em with your scram pistol first...oh wait i forgot you have two flaylocks which are good on armor not shields. /facepalm thanks, that is really helpful answering if they are supposed to have high hp, really is posting yes they are supposed to be high in hp, I EXPECT TO DIE FROM PROTOS!
Assault and heavies can shield tank as well....nothing magical about logis.
Also it is not just high HP....Flaylocks do not do as good against shields as they do against armor....it is high shield HP not just high HP. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
2104
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Posted - 2013.06.25 21:37:00 -
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Kevlar Waffles wrote:Cosgar wrote:Kevlar Waffles wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:I can shield tank the crap out of my Calogi proto suit and get ~630 shields and a total of about 720 HP, but I still almost get OHK'ed by core flaylocks (least that is what it seems like).
proto fp does like 250ish damage on hit, no one can direct hit 3 times in a row, its a noob only weapon 3 shots in the clip, slow moving projectile that uses broken ballistics physics? Yeah, that's real noobish pick a side, first you complain then you say they arent, i use adv fp and it isnt that hard so yea they are noobish I use a MD, draw your own conclusion... |
Kevlar Waffles
Expert Intervention Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.06.25 21:37:00 -
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hooc roht wrote:Kevlar Waffles wrote:hooc roht wrote:Kevlar Waffles wrote:So im running around in a militia assault suit with my two flaylocks and i run into a logi right? no worries ill just shoot him down like the other 10 guys that i killed oh no! my first 3 shots didnt do much ill just use my other fp to kill him, no luck and i die, ok maybe it was that one guy NOPE! every logi i run into has enough hp to take 6 flaylocks in succession, is this supposed to happen? Im not complaining i just wonder if they are supposed to be tougher than a heavy and as fast as an assault They had high shields genius. Shoot em with your scram pistol first...oh wait i forgot you have two flaylocks which are good on armor not shields. /facepalm thanks, that is really helpful answering if they are supposed to have high hp, really is posting yes they are supposed to be high in hp, I EXPECT TO DIE FROM PROTOS! Assault and heavies can shield tank as well....nothing magical about logis. Also it is not just high HP....Flaylocks do not do as good against shields as they do against armor....it is high shield HP not just high HP.
thanks, i can kill assaults and sometimes heavies seemingly easy its just logis that are paper too my rock |
hooc roht
Deep Space Republic
92
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Posted - 2013.06.25 21:42:00 -
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Kevlar Waffles wrote:hooc roht wrote:Kevlar Waffles wrote:hooc roht wrote:Kevlar Waffles wrote:So im running around in a militia assault suit with my two flaylocks and i run into a logi right? no worries ill just shoot him down like the other 10 guys that i killed oh no! my first 3 shots didnt do much ill just use my other fp to kill him, no luck and i die, ok maybe it was that one guy NOPE! every logi i run into has enough hp to take 6 flaylocks in succession, is this supposed to happen? Im not complaining i just wonder if they are supposed to be tougher than a heavy and as fast as an assault They had high shields genius. Shoot em with your scram pistol first...oh wait i forgot you have two flaylocks which are good on armor not shields. /facepalm thanks, that is really helpful answering if they are supposed to have high hp, really is posting yes they are supposed to be high in hp, I EXPECT TO DIE FROM PROTOS! Assault and heavies can shield tank as well....nothing magical about logis. Also it is not just high HP....Flaylocks do not do as good against shields as they do against armor....it is high shield HP not just high HP. thanks, i can kill assaults and sometimes heavies seemingly easy its just logis that are paper too my rock
*Sigh
High SP players who shield tank shield tank disproportionally as logis.
DO...I....NEED...TO...SPELL...OUT.....EVERYTHING....FOR...YOU??? |
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Another Heavy SOB
TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN.
187
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Posted - 2013.06.25 22:11:00 -
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hooc roht wrote:Kevlar Waffles wrote:hooc roht wrote:Kevlar Waffles wrote:So im running around in a militia assault suit with my two flaylocks and i run into a logi right? no worries ill just shoot him down like the other 10 guys that i killed oh no! my first 3 shots didnt do much ill just use my other fp to kill him, no luck and i die, ok maybe it was that one guy NOPE! every logi i run into has enough hp to take 6 flaylocks in succession, is this supposed to happen? Im not complaining i just wonder if they are supposed to be tougher than a heavy and as fast as an assault They had high shields genius. Shoot em with your scram pistol first...oh wait i forgot you have two flaylocks which are good on armor not shields. /facepalm thanks, that is really helpful answering if they are supposed to have high hp, really is posting yes they are supposed to be high in hp, I EXPECT TO DIE FROM PROTOS! Assault and heavies can shield tank as well....nothing magical about logis. Also it is not just high HP....Flaylocks do not do as good against shields as they do against armor....it is high shield HP not just high HP.
No but getting 90hp per Complex extender and 5 highs to boot is pretty damn close to magical, the 4 and 6 second delays are also semi magical with two enhanced regulators. |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens EoN.
128
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Posted - 2013.06.25 23:43:00 -
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Another Heavy SOB wrote:hooc roht wrote:Kevlar Waffles wrote:hooc roht wrote:Kevlar Waffles wrote:So im running around in a militia assault suit with my two flaylocks and i run into a logi right? no worries ill just shoot him down like the other 10 guys that i killed oh no! my first 3 shots didnt do much ill just use my other fp to kill him, no luck and i die, ok maybe it was that one guy NOPE! every logi i run into has enough hp to take 6 flaylocks in succession, is this supposed to happen? Im not complaining i just wonder if they are supposed to be tougher than a heavy and as fast as an assault They had high shields genius. Shoot em with your scram pistol first...oh wait i forgot you have two flaylocks which are good on armor not shields. /facepalm thanks, that is really helpful answering if they are supposed to have high hp, really is posting yes they are supposed to be high in hp, I EXPECT TO DIE FROM PROTOS! Assault and heavies can shield tank as well....nothing magical about logis. Also it is not just high HP....Flaylocks do not do as good against shields as they do against armor....it is high shield HP not just high HP. No but Cal logis getting 90hp per Complex extender and 5 highs to boot is pretty damn close to magical, the 4 and 6 second delays are also magical with two enhanced regulators. If you want to play it like an assault one of your highs is a complex recharger, so combined with the lower base HP (and thus less effect from +5% shield skills), you end up with similar HP to a caldari assault. If not, then the guy isn't surviving the engagement 5 seconds after yours because he regens that massive shield pool 20hp/tick. So now you have no secondary weapon, but you have equipment. You're slower, but your recharge delay is a little lower. If he's running two shield regulators, you're going to ******* melt to a flux grenade and... anything. It's kind of balanced.
But again, a lot of high SP players are running Cal Logi because it's actually quite nice with AR Proficiency V, which hits like a ton of bricks, and the cries of "OP" while having some basis are also, inevitably, exaggerated. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1930
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Posted - 2013.06.25 23:47:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Kevlar Waffles wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:I can shield tank the crap out of my Calogi proto suit and get ~630 shields and a total of about 720 HP, but I still almost get OHK'ed by core flaylocks (least that is what it seems like).
proto fp does like 250ish damage on hit, no one can direct hit 3 times in a row, its a noob only weapon The stats are probably wrong, it does a heck of a lot more damage than 250. Think you have to add up splash and direct from what I heard. Without knowing the stats off hand, say splash is 250 and direct is 250, so if you direct hit somebody you get 500 damage. Not sure if this is the case, but seeing how effective the core flaylock is, it would stand to reason.
nope
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=912311#post912311 |
Zero Harpuia
WarRavens League of Infamy
528
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Posted - 2013.06.25 23:50:00 -
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Two point five words. Shields v. Explosives. Your silly little explosions do 80% damage MAX against a shield, and 120% MAX against armor. In short, if you can't pierce my shield you are up fe ces river sans a aquatic propulsion apparatus.
Also don't Flaylocks have a tiny reload time already? Swap one for a Scrambler to take out shields and unaware targets. Use you're brain ya fool. |
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