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Posted - 2013.06.25 20:41:00 -
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We say we want content - then cry when we get it - why is that?
Simple - Take a look at assaults and logi - pretty cool they have all there variants and if they upgrade light weapons it'll effect all there suits equally.
Now look at commando - what heavy skills will effect it? It may as well be a glorified assault. It's not a heavy friendly suit - we're going to have to dump SP into new weapons to get - which means more grinding. Assault users will probably find more of a home with it then we will - all we'll have over them is the basic Heavy Frame SP already spent - but they'll have a few Light Weapons already which equates to them saving more SP over-all if they went AR/MD
Will it have a smaller hitbox even in the slightest? If not it's range confrontation is going to be frustrating - every bullet that lands jukes the weapon slightly and makes return fire a challenge. I ran AR heavy since June of last year till December of last year - and finally decided it wasn't possible for an AR heavy to stay competitive - so what has been done to change this? 2 light weapon slots? The only hope the commando will have in competitive play will be equipping a MD for the spams then AR to finish it off - but it'll still be slow - so what role on the battlefield will it enjoy? Defense support?
I think if CCP is to continue releasing suits like this it should come with an explanation of how they see it being used - because as it stands the commando suit just seems like a pub stomp suit.
Note: This is ofc - just my opinion. |
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Posted - 2013.06.25 20:58:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Seamie Schmoove wrote:Suppose the effectiveness of the suit will depend on the slot layout. Are they giving them equipment
slots does anyone know? And the QQing will roll onto something else next week...circle of Dust and
all that According to CCPs video... the proto variant has 1 equip, 2 highs, and 1 low... and maybe a grenade slot I don't remember.
that's....absolutely terrible... |
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Posted - 2013.06.25 21:09:00 -
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>_>....
So it's a non-specialized suit that can be easily replaced by anything it attempts to do by assault players?
Fan-fuggin-tastic.
Least it has that equipment slot - which basically validates it as anti-vehicle rooftop spammer of the year. |
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Posted - 2013.06.25 21:34:00 -
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hooc roht wrote:
It also only addresses a small group of play styles.
it is cool for small things like this to be added to the game.
But you have to be as blind as Soda pop to not be underwhelmed.
Coming from a guy who says all people with 10mil SP are scrubs you can own with just 1 mill then QQ's about match making - that's rich.
But I don't blame you for singling me out since I make you look bad everywhere ;) |
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Posted - 2013.06.25 22:23:00 -
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hooc roht wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:hooc roht wrote:
It also only addresses a small group of play styles.
it is cool for small things like this to be added to the game.
But you have to be as blind as Soda pop to not be underwhelmed.
Coming from a guy who says all people with 10mil SP are scrubs you can own with just 1 mill then QQ's about match making - that's rich. But I don't blame you for singling me out since I make you look bad everywhere ;) EDIT: Also - how does it take to be as a blind as me when I'm making threads about this suit being useless? You're a bad troll - use some logic if you're going to try. Pro tip for failed trolls: When you find yourself in a hole quit digging.
Take your own advice lol |
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Posted - 2013.06.25 23:10:00 -
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Shadowswipe wrote:Imagine an assault squad of 3 or 4 Commandos. You dont' need grenades cause you are pro with AR. Your equipment slots are a mix of Remotes, Uplinks, and Hives. You get in behind enemy lines cause your squad works together well. You set explosives and fallback points. Your AR game is so pro that they bring out tanks to try to break your entrenched defense. Your squad of 3 or 4 laugh and all swap to the Swarm, or for giggles, Plasma Cannons. You all shoot off 1 or 2 volleys in 3 seconds, the tank pops near instantly (even if proto). The infantry try to move in on you with the tank support that made you switch to AV, but you just instantly switch back to ARs. No Supply Depot in sight.
Assault suits can only do 1 or the other... Lol, ya commandos are gonna lawl the field. They dont' need modules, because they carry two powerful focus weapons, 1 for AI, the other for AV.
This is a good addition and the suit will be well worth the points spent.
... or the assaults could use proto-av nades and be just as effective against vehicles. And laugh at fatties trying to be range combatants with there larger hitbox. |
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Posted - 2013.06.25 23:16:00 -
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Shadowswipe wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Shadowswipe wrote:Imagine an assault squad of 3 or 4 Commandos. You dont' need grenades cause you are pro with AR. Your equipment slots are a mix of Remotes, Uplinks, and Hives. You get in behind enemy lines cause your squad works together well. You set explosives and fallback points. Your AR game is so pro that they bring out tanks to try to break your entrenched defense. Your squad of 3 or 4 laugh and all swap to the Swarm, or for giggles, Plasma Cannons. You all shoot off 1 or 2 volleys in 3 seconds, the tank pops near instantly (even if proto). The infantry try to move in on you with the tank support that made you switch to AV, but you just instantly switch back to ARs. No Supply Depot in sight.
Assault suits can only do 1 or the other... Lol, ya commandos are gonna lawl the field. They dont' need modules, because they carry two powerful focus weapons, 1 for AI, the other for AV.
This is a good addition and the suit will be well worth the points spent. ... or the assaults could use proto-av nades and be just as effective against vehicles. And laugh at fatties trying to be range combatants with there larger hitbox. A good tank driver will never be in AV nade range. Swarms they can't dodge a full volley from 4 people fast enough to avoid death from long range. Swarms will kill them before they hit the ground from the RDV dropping them off. AV nades can't even compare.
Now I have to ask - what type of tank are they fighting? If it's blaster they'll have to get in range of AV nades to be effective - and missiles are terrible at range firing. Rail? Lol.
Sorry but as a heavy I've been in AV Nade throwing range during PC - tanks have to get in close. I do not speak of pub games as my reference - only competitive matches. Tanks who hide or fall back to range may as well just be rail-anti-AV tanks.
Ofc - again - just my opinion. |
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Posted - 2013.06.26 04:47:00 -
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Cariss777 wrote:So ms sotapopper you want new suits or a fully racial varient for what we already have?
If you say New suits then you sir are the issue, as I already know your doing your best to ruin the game like plymco pilgrim did mag.
FIX THE ISSUES THEN RELEASE NEW CONTENT.
Should I know or care about MAG references? If you have a problem with a heavy using murder taxi to get around rather then being a useless meat-shield that isn't my problem - it's CCP's bad game design. I've been here for over a year and it's only recently that I've started doing this - and why is that? Because my HMG is trash in pubs.
Now - about your question - I don't understand it. What's the difference between new suits and getting racial variants? I want HMG fixed more then I want new suits. The Amarr Basic Frame has served me well enough - it's the weapon that blows. But that doesn't mean heavies should get ignored and get no variants to our suits.
GOML Scrub ;) If playing this game within its mechanics is breaking it then I'm taking a huge damn dump all over this sad game. |
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Posted - 2013.06.26 11:16:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:EnglishSnake wrote:It has an equipment slot you dumbass and its cheap as chips to lvl up the SL anyways And as far as we know has less speed than a heavy, and less health. Militia sniper rifle? Jeez I hate these forums some days. Commando, the new scary AV. It can't waddle out to you, but god damn if you drive next to him you're gonna be hurting when he's shooting the exact same things at you that anyone else does 
The suit will have less health with same speed. |
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Posted - 2013.06.26 11:45:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:
The suit will have less health with same speed.
Link for speed confirmation? Having the same or less speed as a normal heavy will kill this specialization before it's even patched in.
Info comes from IRC - sorry.
Nova is also unhappy with commando suit and think it'll flop. |
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