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Fox Gaden
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.06.25 12:17:00 -
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I classify a revive as successful if the patient is able to make it to cover and recover their health so they can get back in the fight.
In Chromosome successful revives were fairly common. The medic would kill or drive off the guy that killed you and revive you. You would stagger to cover and crouch there waiting for your shields to regenerate.
Sometimes there would be a sniper the medic did not know about, or a red would show up just as you were being revived and you would be taken down again. Often there was a crossfire or you knew a sniper had a line on you, and you would just bleed out. Sometimes there were medics that did not know when not to revive, and you would get stood up just to get knocked down again, but most medics knew better.
Since Uprising I canGÇÖt remember the last time I have been successfully revived, and I have rarely seen anyone else get successfully revived either. Every time I do get revived I get mowed down again, often before I even have control of my character. If this has just been uniquely bad luck, then please let me know. If you have any ideas as to what is different in Uprising, I would like to hear them.
I thought of something that might help, and I would like to get some general feedback before I decide if it would be worth posting as a suggestion in the Feedback forum:
In the first Second after being injected, while nanites are still surging through your system, any damage to your body is repaired before it can become fatal. During the first second after the revive attempt, while the standing up animation is happening and you donGÇÖt have control of your character, the only thing that can kill you is traumatic damage to your brain (head shot), or the destruction of your body (explosion, forge gun, rail turret, anything that would kill you without giving you a chance to be revived). I think this is a good way of giving a partial invulnerability without sacrificing realism. I would even be ok with taking damage during that first second, but with a very high armour recovery rate, capped at the armour level the Nanite Injector revived you at.
Basically all I want is a better chance of still being alive when I regain control of my character and can make a dash for some cover. I want a fighting chance. |
Nebra Tene
Roaming Blades
96
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Posted - 2013.06.25 12:36:00 -
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The problem is not being killed while being revived, but only that the nanite injectors are just broken as heck right now.
You cna be standing right on top of the other player and you will not be able to revive them, you have to be looking around in some invisible area nearby that will revive the player.
The fact that there's a useless killscreen rather than the previous screen that told you to either bleed out or call for help, wastes time and the new "call for help" button on the respawn screen is constantly overlooked.
There's also the fact that you cannot see downed teammates, so you can't tell if its an ally, an enemy, or an already bled out ally, so you may be wasting your time trying to revive someone you can't revive.
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
350
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Posted - 2013.06.25 12:43:00 -
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I once saw a heavy get grabbed by the terrain and get killed by a all militia fit. when the logi went to revive him, he yelled "DON'T YOU DARE REVIVE ME! LET ME DIE YOU SON OF A *****" After he died, he left the game.  |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
42
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Posted - 2013.06.25 12:45:00 -
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"Revives, are they ever successful?"
Roughly 40% of the time. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
Eternal Syndicate
364
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Posted - 2013.06.25 12:47:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:I once saw a ADV heavy get grabbed by the terrain and get killed by a all militia fit. when the logi went to revive him, he yelled "DON'T YOU DARE REVIVE ME! LET ME DIE YOU SON OF A *****" After he died, he left the game.
Sometimes the patient has more sense than the doctor. I cooked the same dude 7 times because people kept picking him up into my Lazer stream. |
Fox Gaden
DUST University
Ivy League
544
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Posted - 2013.06.25 12:52:00 -
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Nebra Tene wrote:The problem is not being killed while being revived, but only that the nanite injectors are just broken as heck right now.
You can be standing right on top of the other player and you will not be able to revive them, you have to be looking around in some invisible area nearby that will revive the player.
The fact that there's a useless killscreen rather than the previous screen that told you to either bleed out or call for help, wastes time and the new "call for help" button on the respawn screen is constantly overlooked.
There's also the fact that you cannot see downed teammates, so you can't tell if its an ally, an enemy, or an already bled out ally, so you may be wasting your time trying to revive someone you can't revive.
If they fix them to be usable again, then more people will start using them again, more skilled people which know what they're doing and how to successfully revive.
You make a lot of sense. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1759
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Posted - 2013.06.25 13:18:00 -
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When the guy with the injector stays within 5m of me, it's usually successful. I don't get revived when I watch them run around aimlessly |
IamI3rian
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
229
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Posted - 2013.06.25 13:22:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Surt gods end wrote:I once saw a ADV heavy get grabbed by the terrain and get killed by a all militia fit. when the logi went to revive him, he yelled "DON'T YOU DARE REVIVE ME! LET ME DIE YOU SON OF A *****" After he died, he left the game. Sometimes the patient has more sense than the doctor. I cooked the same dude 7 times because people kept picking him up into my Lazer stream.
You just strongly implied that you have gotten seven laser kills.
Pics or it didn't happen. = D
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Remember: IamI3rian told ya
Kinda like this game but there's something you should know... I just came to say hello |
Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals
272
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Posted - 2013.06.25 13:48:00 -
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well put it this way, because the nanite injections dont work so good, most of the logis in our corp have given up carrying them, instead running with nano hives, uplinks, rep gun and remote bombs.
i once got revived by a blueberry logi and got back into the fight while he repaired me on the go. si i guess that counts as a successful rev |
Aeon Amadi
Unkn0wn Killers
1635
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Posted - 2013.06.25 13:52:00 -
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IamI3rian wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:Surt gods end wrote:I once saw a ADV heavy get grabbed by the terrain and get killed by a all militia fit. when the logi went to revive him, he yelled "DON'T YOU DARE REVIVE ME! LET ME DIE YOU SON OF A *****" After he died, he left the game. Sometimes the patient has more sense than the doctor. I cooked the same dude 7 times because people kept picking him up into my Lazer stream. You just strongly implied that you have gotten seven laser kills. Pics or it didn't happen. = D --- Remember: IamI3rian told ya Kinda like this game but there's something you should know... I just came to say hello
Probably referring to Chromosome. |
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DEVILJIN 49
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.06.26 23:47:00 -
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Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this.........
Planetside 2
Coming to PS4 this year
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