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Malik loves Love Kinsho Swords Caldari State 13	Posted - 2013.06.25 10:22:00 - [1] - Quote Some time this week the PCU of dust almost certainly drop below 5,000 maximum PCU. Not only is that a bad look it probably breaks match making making it even harder for new players to play. The floor though is not zero. Long before that dust is almost certainly unprofitable, with no clear way out and the PS4 looming. What do you think the floor is and is this having an impact on you as a player and/or the people you know?
Eddie Rio The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 34	Posted - 2013.06.25 10:25:00 - [2] - Quote well it aint going to mean I don't have food on the table, or that I will cut my wrists or anything,,, stupid post is pointless,, who cares,
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 55	Posted - 2013.06.25 10:46:00 - [3] - Quote We already "hit" the floor, now we digging our way through to the basement. All the Fanboys are waiting for us in there. Seriously, a player base of bellow 5000 in "PICK" time, its horrible numbers for a F2P game.
dustwaffle Ill Omens EoN. 98	Posted - 2013.06.25 10:52:00 - [4] - Quote I suffer from no physiological effects... Nor any psychological effects for that matter.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 974	Posted - 2013.06.25 10:54:00 - [5] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: We already "hit" the floor, now we digging our way through to the basement. All the Fanboys are waiting for us in there. Seriously, a player base of bellow 5000 in "PICK" time, its horrible numbers for a F2P game. What might "PICK" time be?
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 559	Posted - 2013.06.25 10:57:00 - [6] - Quote What impact is this having on me as a player huh Disappointment that what could have been a fun game was bungled so badly by its dev team after they spent years working on it But Im not that broken up over it, there are plenty of fun games out right now and hell some of them are even free and more polished than this and thats not even getting into the games shown off at E3 Im looking forward to Hell just MGS 5, Killer is Dead, and Bayonetta 2 could keep me happy for weeks and come from 3 dev studios that know how to do their **** unlike CCP
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 55	Posted - 2013.06.25 10:57:00 - [7] - Quote Zeylon Rho wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: We already "hit" the floor, now we digging our way through to the basement. All the Fanboys are waiting for us in there. Seriously, a player base of bellow 5000 in "PICK" time, its horrible numbers for a F2P game. What might "PICK" time be? Traditionally is when EU players meet USA players; 5:00 pm GMT to 10:00 pm GMT.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 974	Posted - 2013.06.25 11:00:00 - [8] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: We already "hit" the floor, now we digging our way through to the basement. All the Fanboys are waiting for us in there. Seriously, a player base of bellow 5000 in "PICK" time, its horrible numbers for a F2P game. What might "PICK" time be? Traditionally is when EU players meet USA players; 5:00 pm GMT to 10:00 pm GMT. Perhaps you meant "peak" times. You need to give your ESL teacher a stern talking to.
Ynned Ivanova Decrepid Old Sods 11	Posted - 2013.06.25 11:03:00 - [9] - Quote Indeed, not to mention that from 10 pm to 4am there were over 5k on, so not so peak.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 55	Posted - 2013.06.25 11:03:00 - [10] - Quote Zeylon Rho wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: We already "hit" the floor, now we digging our way through to the basement. All the Fanboys are waiting for us in there. Seriously, a player base of bellow 5000 in "PICK" time, its horrible numbers for a F2P game. What might "PICK" time be? Traditionally is when EU players meet USA players; 5:00 pm GMT to 10:00 pm GMT. Perhaps you meant "peak" times. You need to give your ESL teacher a stern talking to. Maybe you right.... but i'm pretty sure shes dead by now...and she wasn't particularly good at English anyway.

Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 55	Posted - 2013.06.25 11:06:00 - [11] - Quote Ynned Ivanova wrote: Indeed, not to mention that from 10 pm to 4am there were over 5k on, so not so peak. That is USA peak time... and that only shows how badly CCP is failing to appeal to EU players.
Ynned Ivanova Decrepid Old Sods 11	Posted - 2013.06.25 11:10:00 - [12] - Quote Failed again Im in the EU, play on EU servers against EU players and always get games.
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 212	Posted - 2013.06.25 11:12:00 - [13] - Quote Please refer to a thread called "Financial info" as it has a link to CCP accounts ending 31.12.2012. The link found below was provided by PonyClause Rex. http://www.ccpgames.com/media/47002/ccp%202012%20consolidated%20financial%20statements.pdf I think that if this project is terminated it will not be based on player count but on whether the company looses hope in turning things around. This is based on the fact that if you look at their accounts for the period ending 31.12.2012 they appear to be making a massive financial loss on Dust 514. It looks like they are spending millions on Dust but I very much doubt the revenue they receive from Dust comes even close to the expensives incurred in developing the game. Particularly look at the significant increase in the R&D costs as well as the increases in Marketing and General and Adminstrative costs and the significant drop in profits compared to the previous year even though revenue increased. So based on these figures even when we had 9-10k players on Dust it was still making a loss so I do not believe CCP is making decisions based on player count but on some other measure they believe to be more important. At the moment it looks like Dust is being completly supported by the revenue generated from Eve subscriptions and is not even breaking even let alone making any profit. In fact I would guess that Dust is currently a massive money sink. Saying all that, as a player of the game, I genuinely hope that CCP finds a means of turning this product around and it becomes the game we all hope, apart from the haters, it can become.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 55	Posted - 2013.06.25 11:12:00 - [14] - Quote Ynned Ivanova wrote: Failed again Im in the EU, play on EU servers against EU players and always get games. EU peak time is from 3:00 pm to 6:00 pm... normally is about 2,000 payers on at that time. Compare that to other games, and you'll see how far off you are.
Ynned Ivanova Decrepid Old Sods 11	Posted - 2013.06.25 11:24:00 - [15] - Quote So peak time is when a lot of people are at school/college/work, astounding.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 56	Posted - 2013.06.25 11:35:00 - [16] - Quote Ynned Ivanova wrote: So peak time is when a lot of people are at school/college/work, astounding. The EU is a big place you know .. lots of different time zones, most of them are + from GMT standard.
Ynned Ivanova Decrepid Old Sods 11	Posted - 2013.06.25 11:44:00 - [17] - Quote As are we , it's BST atm, ie GMT+1. I play at all times of day and night and from my experience DUST EU primetime is 8 till midnight, GMT+1.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 56	Posted - 2013.06.25 11:49:00 - [18] - Quote Ynned Ivanova wrote: As are we , it's BST atm, ie GMT+1. I play at all times of day and night and from my experience DUST EU primetime is 8 till midnight. Pretty much what its always been since gaming started(for adults). GMT+0= Western European Time GMT+1= Central European Time GMT+2= Eastern European Time GMT+3= Further-eastern European Time GMT+4= Moscow Time Is 5 different time zones in the EU.
Calroon DeVil Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 62	Posted - 2013.06.25 12:23:00 - [19] - Quote Bragging about 2 million accounts created in Dust 514 while on average ~5k people are playing is a joke, at best (not even that). Thank god that there are EVE players with 20 accounts that surely keep this game well alive till it's worth something 5 years from now (EVE needed 10).
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 978	Posted - 2013.06.25 12:52:00 - [20] - Quote Calroon DeVil wrote: Bragging about 2 million accounts created in Dust 514 while on average ~5k people are playing is a joke, at best (not even that). Thank god that there are EVE players with 20 accounts that surely keep this game well alive till it's worth something 5 years from now (EVE needed 10). It's less bragging and more about marketing. They're a business. That's why when earnings reports roll around, corps like Microsoft don't say stuff, "All of our products our horrible, our company is going down in flames, dear God... the horror, half our developers have committed suicide... and...." - and so on. Even if it were true, it would adversely impact stock price, investor confidence, and internal morale. That they try to be positive about numbers is completely normal.

IceStormers Forsaken Immortals 38	Posted - 2013.06.25 13:18:00 - [21] - Quote The last thread like this got deleted but the player count is going down quite quick, those of us who really want to see this as a success are still here and personally These threads are semi pointless we can all see the player count is going down but we do need to see and we do want to help CCP turn this into a top end FPS and MMO CCP should recognise that and let us know their plans in place to turn this ship around or come to the community and ask for our help to get it working
steadyhand amarr Amarr Immortal Volunteers 741	Posted - 2013.06.25 13:38:00 - [22] - Quote The smart business move would be to know you have a bad hand and fold at the moment the EvE link is still weak enough that burning dust won't have too much impact. Sadly I feel thry developed a bad F1 car and no amount of insesion development and testing is going to save it better to look at next year car. I hope that metaphor made since lol
Fox Gaden DUST University Ivy League 544	Posted - 2013.06.25 14:05:00 - [23] - Quote I donGÇÖt think CCP expects DUST to start making money until 2015 or so. Releasing the game was only semantics. Most of the game is not available yet.

CCP Eterne C C P C C P Alliance 2086	Posted - 2013.06.25 16:27:00 - [24] - Quote I am locking this. There are plenty of other topics about the current user numbers.



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