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ER-Bullitt wrote:

DildoMcnutz wrote:

ok cool thank you aswell, i am a little confused about a total of 3 pg though, 30% of 54 is 16. As far as the LAV thing do you mean not just driving around running people over like an ass hole or do you feel sotas barricade idea is no good? You guys have given me alot to think about and a sense of direction, never run the class before but im loving it and don't regret my choice one bit Big smile

Regarding Engineering... it costs like 900k SP to go from lvl 4 to lvl 5 in the Engineering skill... and all you get is like 2 extra PG. So the cost vs. reward ratio is extremely low at that point. Granted, if you need it to complete your ideal fitting and have nothing else to spend points on, then go for it. I think that is what he is saying is a waste.

The Dren Heavy Suit is definetely viable for pubs, as it has the same exact stats and slots as the lvl 1 Sentinel suit, minus the racial bonuses. You can fit all types of good **** in that suit with maxed Electronics/Engineering.. Advanced weapons and nades, some combo of basic/adv/comp mods. My dren heavy pub suits usually range from about 15-20k isk a pop. WIth decent blueberries or teammates you shouldnt die more than a handful of times making it a profitable setup.


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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers EoN. 554	Posted - 2013.06.25 19:48:00 - [1] - Quote unfortunately free spell checker is not included....
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers EoN. 557	Posted - 2013.06.26 13:22:00 - [2] - Quote DildoMcnutz wrote: Maybe if i post what i put SP into on monday when i was respeced and you let me know where i should head from there/what i did wrong and so on? Dropsuit command: 3 Amarr Heavy Dropsuit :5 Dropsuit upgrades: 2 Dropsuit armour: 5 Armour repair: 5 Dropsuit core: 5 Electronics: 5 Engineering: 5 Dropsuit Shield: 2 Weaponry: 5 Weapon Upgrades: 5 Explosives: 1 Grenadier: 1 Heavy Weapon operation: 4 Forgun: 5 with Prof: 1 HMG: 5 with Prof: 1 Side arm operation : 1 Scrambler pistol: 1 ( i like the SMG and scrambler equally and the scrambler takes less to fit was my reasoning, i know most dont like pistols ) The best fit i have (well what i think is best anyway) is 2 complex damage mods, 3 complex reppers, Boundless, scrambler pistol and flux grenades. Forge gun is basically the same but with a complex repper swapped for an enhanced and different nades. Any input here would be real helpful. Also as far as having the car with the scanner, just use a freebie blue print or is it worth putting SP into? lots of wasted SP here imo... engineering 5 as a heavy? sure it has its uses, but u just dropped well over 1 mil SP into a skill that gave you 3 PG total u are lacking in innate damage, innate shields, you have crap nades atm my advice.. hmg prof and forge prof, hmg reload, forge reload, forge ammo, all the stuff that goes with the weapon. biotic upgrades is also a good thing to have, and don't be the f@g that runs around in an LAV... try building your character and improve your skill with your weapon before becoming random sh1tbum #2944
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers EoN. 558	Posted - 2013.06.26 13:38:00 - [3] - Quote tbh getting the level 1 sentinel for pubs is a good way to go. 47k SP to unlock and the cost is half that of the standard suit. long term that 47k saves a LOT of ISK my pub fit runs me about 30k, and that's only cause I have an addiction to core locus, which is half the price of the fit... I could substitute with M1 nades and my fit would only cost me about 15k per suit... make 200k+ per match, can die up to 10 times and STILL make $ the less you die the more you profit. ISK management is the other key to this game. and choosing to be a heavy.. you WILL die, a LOT more than other classes typically if you ever want to get kills lol
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers EoN. 559	Posted - 2013.06.26 13:57:00 - [4] - Quote I typically don't go full rep, and avoid plates like the plague cause you are slow enough as it is without movement penalty. I use the basic plate on some fits, and a mix of different rep depending on the space I have. you have to look at ways to DECREASE usage. you already have all the max innate pg/cpu but heavy upgrades decrease CPU, explosives decrease CPU, fitting optimization decreases pg etc. I can run fits with 3 different proto weapons at the same time.. weapon, submachine gun and nades all proto. and I can still free up more space. the dren would be a way to go. I don use it myself but im assuming its like the skinweave which is complete trash. all about the cpu/pg on the suit before u start to fit it. don't be discouraged tho. I mean I have way more SP than you and it seriously just takes time to get what you want. u could always join half the scrubs in this game and spec into a flaylock as your sidearm. takes up very little space even at the proto level just be ready for it to get nerfed cause that's what happens when the majority uses the same thing... don't get sucked into the latest and greatest crutch. Being a heavy is not easy, you take your lumps more than most and if costs a lot more SP to be on the same competitive level, and you STILL will get flack all the time cause your weapon is stronger than others.. way down the road
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers EoN. 562	Posted - 2013.06.26 14:08:00 - [5] - Quote o nice well then there u go.. I might have to take a look at that then if you can ever find a BPO that doesn't sacrifice too much you are doing good
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers EoN. 565	Posted - 2013.06.26 18:36:00 - [6] - Quote sorry, what ive said is about the extent of me 'training' people. This aint UNICEF, and I dont work for free. sota on the other hand perhaps may be willing to make SoTa's BooKTaSTiC BuS channel for all aspiring fat boys to squad up and learn the ways of the Wookie..... myself; people mail me all the time and i typically respond, except when my secretary is on 'vacation' I have a pile of players right now that probably think im ignoring them cause ive been so busy I have yet to squad with them. I feel bad but definitely not in for something like this. u want some lessons, holler and I'll attack you and u can take all the lessons u want, good or bad. or send me $ :P the only thing that gets my time for free is my children and and my wife (not like THATS ever free but u know what im sayin..)
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers EoN. 570	Posted - 2013.06.27 16:10:00 - [7] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: DildoMcnutz wrote: ok cool thank you aswell, i am a little confused about a total of 3 pg though, 30% of 54 is 16. As far as the LAV thing do you mean not just driving around running people over like an ass hole or do you feel sotas barricade idea is no good? You guys have given me alot to think about and a sense of direction, never run the class before but im loving it and don't regret my choice one bit Regarding Engineering... it costs like 900k SP to go from lvl 4 to lvl 5 in the Engineering skill... and all you get is like 2 extra PG. So the cost vs. reward ratio is extremely low at that point. Granted, if you need it to complete your ideal fitting and have nothing else to spend points on, then go for it. I think that is what he is saying is a waste. The Dren Heavy Suit is definetely viable for pubs, as it has the same exact stats and slots as the lvl 1 Sentinel suit, minus the racial bonuses. You can fit all types of good **** in that suit with maxed Electronics/Engineering.. Advanced weapons and nades, some combo of basic/adv/comp mods. My dren heavy pub suits usually range from about 15-20k isk a pop. WIth decent blueberries or teammates you shouldnt die more than a handful of times making it a profitable setup. yes this is what I meant... the cost for the extra 2-3 PG is not justified until perhaps down the road as there are tons of other things you could put SP into. I have lvl 3 engineering for example. and yes being a fat boy utilizing an LAV to get to a contested area (really only applies in pubs...) is totally justified. however MOST that put SP into LAVs only do it to get higher HP jeeps that can withstand more AV while they are runnin around listening to the theme song from HEE-HAW. get a saga bpo, if u can find a guristas saga pack, or get the $50 pack and that is all you would ever need. they are better than the MLT lavs that blow up if u run into anything... use that SP to work on your heavy.
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers EoN. 572	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:35:00 - [8] - Quote actually ran a squad the other day for about 2-3 maps and got paid 10m for my time ;) no that wasn't alliance peeps, which would always get the employee discount.. but still. I must be doing something right if ppl offer me that to just talk to them lol
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers EoN. 577	Posted - 2013.06.28 15:36:00 - [9] - Quote yea u need to specialize first and foremost. branch out once you are well along on innates and have a weapon maxed out. I play heavy 99.9% of the time and have no problem with that. the other .1% is bustin out my militia sniper rifle and roastin S'mores but once u get things to a higher level, you need to look at the cost vs reward. Engineering for example, you gained about 3 pg while spending over a million SP, which could have taken your hmg prof from lvl 1 to lvl 4.. that's another what 9% damage that is innate? vs 2-3 PG? learning the order in which u want to use SP just takes time.. its not that u wasted it, just that it could have been of more immediate use elsewhere I don't level up stuff until I have to.. like electronics and engineering.. I get a weapon or something and need more space, then I get it by either adding more or decreasing off a weapon til I can fit it