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Sigbjorn Foerik Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 20	Posted - 2013.06.24 16:43:00 - [1] - Quote It-¦s a fact that people look at the engine before they buy a game. This might not be the case for DUST since it-¦s free to play but it still will determine the abilities and capabilities of the game. Do you actually think you can base a shooter that is planned to be as massive as EVE on a 6 year old 99$ licensed engine especially if you want to port it to the PS4? Invest a few hundred dollars more and use the Frostbite 3 Engine or at least the Frostbite 2 Engine to power your game. You can do almost everything with this engines: for example: Destructible Environment and Environmental Effects Bullet Physics Large Scale Battles and Open World And this all in FULL HD with 3D grass etc. These things are what DUST needs to become a worthy part of New Eden.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 699	Posted - 2013.06.24 16:50:00 - [2] - Quote This game had a better engine, it melted PS3s.. It was AWESOME.. Unreal is a good engine. The only one better is Frostbite and EA won't let anyone else use it. Source
Sigbjorn Foerik Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 21	Posted - 2013.06.24 16:59:00 - [3] - Quote Then use the Ureal Engine 4. You need a better engine!
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 700	Posted - 2013.06.24 17:00:00 - [4] - Quote Sigbjorn Foerik wrote: Then use the Ureal Engine 4. You need a better engine! The door is that way ----------------------------> Unreal 3 is a good engine that is still current gen and is the current version of the Unreal Engine. Since Unreal 4 isn't slotted for release until the next gen consoles, your argument is crap and you should get out.
Sigbjorn Foerik Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 21	Posted - 2013.06.24 18:55:00 - [5] - Quote Daedric Lothar wrote: Sigbjorn Foerik wrote: Then use the Ureal Engine 4. You need a better engine! The door is that way ----------------------------> Unreal 3 is a good engine that is still current gen and is the current version of the Unreal Engine. Since Unreal 4 isn't slotted for release until the next gen consoles, your argument is crap and you should get out. The game will need a new engine though. CCP wants this game to last for years, not just a few months like any other shooter. It might work for a PC mmo to use the same engine over 10 years but for a shooter to be actual and thus played there needs to be a new engine.
Godin Thekiller Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 178	Posted - 2013.06.24 20:27:00 - [6] - Quote Sigbjorn Foerik wrote: Daedric Lothar wrote: Sigbjorn Foerik wrote: Then use the Ureal Engine 4. You need a better engine! The door is that way ----------------------------> Unreal 3 is a good engine that is still current gen and is the current version of the Unreal Engine. Since Unreal 4 isn't slotted for release until the next gen consoles, your argument is crap and you should get out. The game will need a new engine though. CCP wants this game to last for years, not just a few months like any other shooter. It might work for a PC mmo to use the same engine over 10 years but for a shooter to be actual and thus played there needs to be a new engine. EDIT: I mean to use the UR4 when it releases. COD has been using the same engine for what, 6, 7 years now? So your point=invalid. Anyways, fixed. Peace, Godin
Godin Thekiller Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 178	Posted - 2013.06.24 20:28:00 - [7] - Quote However, they shouldn't try and pull the same bs, and sould upgrade to UR4 on PS4; it can stay UR3 until then.
Meeko Fent Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 103	Posted - 2013.06.24 20:34:00 - [8] - Quote Upgrade when it Starts to get Outdated. It works for Most every other Game Series. It works for MMOs, including EVE. Why wont it work to just have a massive update that Ports DUST to a New Engine? But that needs to be Later. It works right now, so just keep your panty-hoses on and wait for Balancing, and New MMing
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 2064	Posted - 2013.06.24 21:44:00 - [9] - Quote Sigbjorn Foerik wrote: Daedric Lothar wrote: Sigbjorn Foerik wrote: Then use the Ureal Engine 4. You need a better engine! The door is that way ----------------------------> Unreal 3 is a good engine that is still current gen and is the current version of the Unreal Engine. Since Unreal 4 isn't slotted for release until the next gen consoles, your argument is crap and you should get out. The game will need a new engine though. CCP wants this game to last for years, not just a few months like any other shooter. It might work for a PC mmo to use the same engine over 10 years but for a shooter to be actual and thus played there needs to be a new engine. EDIT: I mean to use the UR4 whenit releases. UE4 is a certainty, since they've already said the game will outlive the PS3.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 401	Posted - 2013.06.24 21:59:00 - [10] - Quote TBH, I kinda wonder what Dust would be like if it was built on the engine Zipper used for MAG. Obviously modded to include all of the added content, though start with the same codebase.

Oso Peresoso RisingSuns 24	Posted - 2013.06.25 02:20:00 - [11] - Quote This game needs a better platform entirely. Considering the current state of the game I am shocked and astounded that it was released on PS3 (formally) just months before the release of the PS4. Dust doesn't even look good for this generation (on PS3), much less the incoming one, and it still has major issues with framerate and general performance.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1176	Posted - 2013.06.25 02:35:00 - [12] - Quote ... You don't just decide one day, "Huh. I don't like my game engine. I'll use a different one".
Oso Peresoso RisingSuns 25	Posted - 2013.06.25 04:15:00 - [13] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: ... You don't just decide one day, "Huh. I don't like my game engine. I'll use a different one". And that's why CCP has a problem on their hands.
Valto Nyntus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 16	Posted - 2013.06.25 04:26:00 - [14] - Quote Oso Peresoso wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: ... You don't just decide one day, "Huh. I don't like my game engine. I'll use a different one". And that's why CCP has a problem on their hands. wow, you're just like my brother, you won't give up on this topic even though your wrong.You can't just decide to move over to another engine or console for that matter, it's not that simple.Be happy with what we have and be patient, there working their hardest, it will get better down the line.
Oso Peresoso RisingSuns 25	Posted - 2013.06.25 04:43:00 - [15] - Quote Valto Nyntus wrote: Oso Peresoso wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: ... You don't just decide one day, "Huh. I don't like my game engine. I'll use a different one". And that's why CCP has a problem on their hands. wow, you're just like my brother, you won't give up on this topic even though your wrong.You can't just decide to move over to another engine or console for that matter, it's not that simple.Be happy with what we have and be patient, there working their hardest, it will get better down the line. lol, no need to rage, kid. I know perfectly well that you can't up and change engines/platform willy-nilly. But its completely obvious that given the new generation of consoles, the age of the ps3, and the vision CCP has for Dust, there will be major changes to Dust and how and what it runs on in the next few years. CCP almost certainly has some sort of strategic plan in place, and if they don't, threads like this are reminder that they need one, even if its years down the line. That the players want it sooner rather than later is only natural, but the fact we want it this soon, so early in Dust's life, is a problem. I also know perfectly well that EVE players never got a damn thing they wanted from CCP by being quiet and happy with what they already had.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 709	Posted - 2013.06.25 11:08:00 - [16] - Quote Valto Nyntus wrote: Oso Peresoso wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: ... You don't just decide one day, "Huh. I don't like my game engine. I'll use a different one". And that's why CCP has a problem on their hands. wow, you're just like my brother, you won't give up on this topic even though your wrong.You can't just decide to move over to another engine or console for that matter, it's not that simple.Be happy with what we have and be patient, there working their hardest, it will get better down the line. Actually, it is why they have a problem on their hands, they had the Carbon engine, which melted PS3s. the original E3 video from a year or so ago of Dust where they all come in on the dropship and it shows the price of the stuff and all sorts of neat items that aren't in our game, well that video was on the Carbon engine. So they had to switch and now we have this game in its sad but fun state, because they had to just one day decide. "I'll use a different engine"
Meeko Fent Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 117	Posted - 2013.07.02 00:10:00 - [17] - Quote Valto Nyntus wrote: Oso Peresoso wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: ... You don't just decide one day, "Huh. I don't like my game engine. I'll use a different one". And that's why CCP has a problem on their hands. wow, you're just like my brother, you won't give up on this topic even though your wrong.You can't just decide to move over to another engine or console for that matter, it's not that simple.Be happy with what we have and be patient, there working their hardest, it will get better down the line. Yep. Just Be happy with the game. yes their are bugs, and annoyances, but no other free PS3 game is half as good as this one. Be happy with what you pay for. It will slowly get better. Its just bugs and the like that have to be fixed as of Current
Buster Friently Rosen Association 838	Posted - 2013.07.02 01:07:00 - [18] - Quote FYI, the Unreal engine is updated every 6 months. I don't know why you think it is six years old, just because that's when the first version of Unreal 3 came out. Things in the PC world don't sit still.


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