This does not happen in EVE you are not penalised fr making specific racially aligned choices, all that matters is what you skill into and that I feel should remain the core of the game.

Lets be honest while its true the Amarr use laser weaponry there is no reason why they are any better at it than say a Gallentean who has also had the same weapons training.

Who's gonna inform the new users?

Yeah I saw and stomped some of your guys today. Be Reclaimed Minnie scum

((OOC- I guess though the real thing would be to have racial video scenes, etc that EXPLAIN THIS. FPSers aren't the brightest gamers in the basement....they need to be told these things.))

Funny with your extreme Racial and Religious feelings of superiority you can't even properly quote this "Minnie acum" you presume to look down upon!

Come and reclaim me if you think you can.

If you can manage to pull your Imperialistic nose out of your empresses' bottom. Don't hate my people because we took from your master-erm rulers what you are to blind and brainwashed to notice you live without! To afraid to stand against tyranny should you ever see the light!
I'll CRUSH you worm! FOR THE REPUBLIC!!!!!!!!!!

Firstly OOC- Lore wise you were only able to escape because of a Jovian victory, delusions of self created independence are admirable but na+»ve.

Also I find OOC come back when relating to RP IC stuff is kind of tacky so Ill keep my stuff separate.

EDIT- I don't get the Minnie acum thing? its spelt right on my monitor.

IC- I seek to bring the light of god to you and your people, why do you resist God's grace and the magnanimous gestures of our Empress Jamyll?

NO!!! for the CORPORATION!!!

but if our walls crumble then there is nothing to cast the shadow that you live in.



also jaraiya you spelt it "a"*** instead of "s"*** so you miss quoted him

Edit: -------------------------acum--------and----- scum

looks like CCP doesn't like that word

It's interesting but I think a better way to do this would be to give races certain bonuses to learning skills - there's something similar in Eve. When you choose a race there are certain skills that that race gets a reduction in SP required to train. Once or twice a year you can change which skillsets these are without having to change your race. This removes static and permanent bonuses and only affects the rate of training but reinforces your idea that race and bloodline should matter

No.


The greatest reason being that kind of initial commitment to some cause/style only hurts new player experience. Either they have to study before even creating the char (bye bye fast get onboard) or they most likely handicap themselves.

Can't view the spreadsheet

well they could give every one a respect, and the ability to re pick their race, also in the definition of each race it can give the bonuses for picking that race, like it did when you picked what type of suit you wanted in beta, enforcer, sentinel, and i forget the rest.

Master J,i havent yet read through all of the thread. but i would have to disagree so far on what i have read. When they implement alignment and status like in EVE, which they will do, this will be the your MMO side. You are rewarded/punished through your actions as you play.

example: as you fight for the minmatar, your status with amarr will lower with every battle. losing your access to special weapons only received through the loyalty point (LP) system that is currently in EVE. these faction items are awesome and can only be received by choosing to align with a specific faction while losing access to the opposing factions' special equipment.

we do need more of the MMO feel to this game, but dont worry, its coming, in the form of EVE role play.

it doesnt affect it in EVE, why should it in dust? your affects and abilities are should not be something given, only earned through player actions

a minmatar merc fighting for amarr will get the same benifits as an amarr, why? because he fought and worked for them, not because he was given them at the beginning.

amarr who is in high standings decides to defect to minmatar will be punished with the low status with minmatar from fighting against them by choice, delaying the time that he will be rewarded with access to minnie faction items.

Im highly against any race bonuses because those are not earned or affected by actions, and you cannot cross train and get creative with crazy fittings.

Its very very rare, but sometime you will see a minmatar ship using amarr guns. its not as effective statistically, but its not expected, making it effective when put in use.

it doesnt affect it in EVE, why should it in dust? your affects and abilities are should not be something given, only earned through player actions

a minmatar merc fighting for amarr will get the same benifits as an amarr, why? because he fought and worked for them, not because he was given them at the beginning.

amarr who is in high standings decides to defect to minmatar will be punished with the low status with minmatar from fighting against them by choice, delaying the time that he will be rewarded with access to minnie faction items.

Im highly against any race bonuses because those are not earned or affected by actions, and you cannot cross train and get creative with crazy fittings.

Its very very rare, but sometime you will see a minmatar ship using amarr guns. its not as effective statistically, but its not expected, making it effective when put in use.

race bonuses would abolish the creativity that can happen with fitting because why use a laser as a minnie when you get 25% more damage for using a minnie gun? they know whats coming and you wont using anything else ever

it doesnt affect it in EVE, why should it in dust?

I have to agree with the others, we are not racist and there is no need to promote racism. Racism was why almost everyone rolled Caldari when EVE first came out. Caldari had a really good racial ability. However I think its also due to how awesome the corporate life is lol. But yes EVE had Racism and then they took it away. That is why you don't see it here.


Your race will play an important part when the facial portrait thing comes out.

Did you even read the entire thread or bother to look at the spreadsheets?

What does....

How is it...

I just cant...

/facepalm

I don't really consider my "picture" as being very in depth and immersive character development. It's has no bearing on functionality whatsoever. In my proposal you would be able to train into the skills of another Race and Bloodline it would simply take more SP than the skills of your own. Please, when you can, take a look at the spreadsheets and everything proposed therein. Then leave feedback on what you like about it or whqt you would change. I did spend quite a bit of time coming up with all of this, and would not have you simply dismiss it in its entirety so easily.

Yea sure, I can do that. If all you mean is just a SP boost for Race and Ally skills, then that shouldn't be to big a deal. However it does run into the problem that a Newberry has no idea which weapon works best and would probably just want to reroll his toon as soon as he realizes that the Lazer Rifle wasn't what he thought it would be and the Railgun was much better and that like 3 Million SP mountain to go to Railgun 5 with upgrades is alittle to high to climb.

You're right, our ideas are similar. Though I do like idea of the Merc Cultural tree, I'm afraid that by allowing so many bonuses that apply at all times might give rise to a race of super-supersoldiers that no new player would have a chance to fight against.

I also still prefer grouping suits based on race not class. It feels right to me to have similar tech grouped together.